VO Reading from inactive tabs in Safari on the Mac

2021-01-24 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I have a pretty old MacBook Pro and I’ve only just updated to sierra. I am now having a problem in Safari that I’ve never experienced before. I’m trying to read a webpage but voiceover keeps reading out what sounds like snippets of information from some other tabs which are present bit which a

Re: Problems filling out a website using Safari on the Mac or on my phone

2016-10-10 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I'm wondering if this has something to do with Flash. If you have Flash installed, check in your System Prefs, in the Flash pane under the Storage tab. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 10, 2016, at 10:34, Mary Otten wrote: I am trying to fill out a website, and I hav

Problems filling out a website using Safari on the Mac or on my phone

2016-10-10 Thread Mary Otten
I am trying to fill out a website, and I have tried it on the Mac and on my phone. The website is telling me that I don't have cookies enabled and I don't have a local storage enabled. In my Safari settings preferences, I have cookies enabled quote for websites I visit". That is the choice. The

Re: Safari on the Mac

2016-07-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
wrote: Hi. I’m not seeing all the bookmarks on my Mac Mini as I thought everything synchronises with my iPhone? I’ve also got Handoff turned on on my iPhone and it’s not working when I open Safari on the Mac. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries

Safari on the Mac

2016-07-07 Thread Saqib Hussain
Hi. I’m not seeing all the bookmarks on my Mac Mini as I thought everything synchronises with my iPhone? I’ve also got Handoff turned on on my iPhone and it’s not working when I open Safari on the Mac. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
-- >> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >> Hi,

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-19 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
t from my iPhone >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Hi Anne, Thanks for that, just changed it. This will be nice. > On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > You can stop VO saying Embedded by setting When encountering a > link/attachment to Do Nothing. It’s in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Text. > > Cheers, > > Ann

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-19 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Brian, You can stop VO saying Embedded by setting When encountering a link/attachment to Do Nothing. It’s in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Text. Cheers, Anne : > On 19 Oct 2015, at 14:30, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Chris, > > After two days since the debacle of a clean install going back

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
t;> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: Safar

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Native text widgets for me; no web applications required. Affects the post field on for example forum.audiogames.net, which is a standard multiline text entry area. I turn QuickNav off because leaving it on pretty much blocks cursor movement. The VO keys are then to be avoided; only cursor na

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, let us know. It would be interesting if you find out anything further. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" To: Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Not sure. It was just my first attempt at usin

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Phil Halton
be possible that that open source package is just not playing nicely > with editting in general, or is that actually doubtful. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: Safari on

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Could it be possible that that open source package is just not playing nicely with editting in general, or is that actually doubtful. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" To: Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ev

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Phil Halton
nd right, etc. > were brought over from Unix/Linux? Now how cool is that! > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? > > > As to t

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist)
From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >> Hi, same here, editing comman

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
; - Original Message - >> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
riginal Message - From: Krister Ekstrom To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi, same here, editing commands work well here. /Krister 18 okt. 2015 kl. 18:54 skrev Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianis

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working perfectly fine for me. Just tested it. -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
right, command+left and right, etc. >> were brought over from Unix/Linux? Now how cool is that! >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> >> To: > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Singing Sparrow
ries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:*Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM *Subject:*Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working perfectly fine for me. Just tested it. -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares www.CoCr

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well goodness gracious. I was only trying to help. I didn't find it all that obvious. Gee willikers! Chris. - Original Message - From: Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) To: “Mac Visionaries“ Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist)
to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >> I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working >> perfectly fine for me. Ju

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Visionaries“ Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working perfectly fine for me. Just tested it. -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist)
right, command+left and right, etc. > were brought over from Unix/Linux? Now how cool is that! > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? &g

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wo! Those commands like option+left and right, command+left and right, etc. were brought over from Unix/Linux? Now how cool is that! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" To: Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than eve

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Phil Halton
previously entered? OK, that's a dealbreaker for me, if so. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" > To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: Safa

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Sadam Ahmed
> Thank goodness, I have a Superduper backup. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" > To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:31 AM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Andrew Lamanche
mac is worse, and how Windows is >>>> becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I >>>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>&g

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Not confirmed here. Only problem i have with web content is that sometimes not always in Facebook, when typing, VO reads all of what you’ve typed so far. Workaround: Turn voiceover off and back on again. /Krister > 18 okt. 2015 kl. 06:31 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu : > > Well, let’s just say

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
eone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>> just want the facts. >>> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >>> Chris. >>> >&

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
t;>>>>>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >> >>>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>>>>> Mac back in 2010. >> >>>>>>>> Won&

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Gerry Cook
;>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >>>>>>>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >> >>>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>&g

RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Juan Hernandez
: Saturday, October 17, 2015 9:32 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Well, let’s just say that I’ve opened TextEdit more than once now to do it, copying and pasting into Safari, just to avoid the pain of typing in Safari directly. Whethe

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
this, I'll definitely be rolling back. that's a door stopper. Thank goodness, I have a Superduper backup. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:31

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, let’s just say that I’ve opened TextEdit more than once now to do it, copying and pasting into Safari, just to avoid the pain of typing in Safari directly. Whether the text is repeated over and over from start with every character or simply not announced at all, the caret doesn’t follow t

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Gucukoglu" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:25 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? The two big ones that I think constitute annoying but non-critical blockers are the broken editing of text in edit fields on Safa

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
The two big ones that I think constitute annoying but non-critical blockers are the broken editing of text in edit fields on Safari and the continued non-responsiveness while moving around Mail, either in tables in the classic view or in mail message content. If efficiency is important to you,

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread E.T.
: OK then. Next time you have a concern like this though with me, how about taking it up with me off list instead of publicly? that goes for all of you! Chris. - Original Message - From: "E.T." To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK then. Next time you have a concern like this though with me, how about taking it up with me off list instead of publicly? that goes for all of you! Chris. - Original Message - From: "E.T." To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Jamie Pauls
d now, I >>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>> just want the facts. >>> Again

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Eric Oyen
wer my question of what the initial problem was that people were >>> experiencing with Safari in the first place. >>> >>> With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "E

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Sadam Ahmed
problem was that people were >> experiencing with Safari in the first place. >> >> With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "E.T." >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread E.T.
rom: "E.T." To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look very appealing. Or the opposite. How many t

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Eric Oyen
> experiencing with Safari in the first place. > > With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "E.T." > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
e or annoy me in the least. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Well, if you don't want to read it, you can just delete it. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2015, at

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ischler" To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi Jamie, I had serious safari bugs with VO being extremely unstable meaning sites that i personally visit a lot fantasy pros and Facebook two that come right to mind constantly would caus

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
From: "E.T." To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look very appealing. Or the opposite. How man

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Devin Prater
: > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:56 AM > Subject: RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? > > > Your correct, but don't you all think after 3 days of this subject line it is > time to move on with a new subject?? > J m t > > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Brian Fischler
toward >> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >> just want the facts. >> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >> Chris. >> >>- Original Message - >>*From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.co

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread E.T.
al Message - *From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? To be honest, I’ve not seen

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
t; back in 2010. >>>>>> >>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
legroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I was thinking the same thing. Chris. - Original Message - From: "george b" To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:56 AM Subject: RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Your correct, but don't you all think after 3 days of this subject line it is time to mov

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
o. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" To: Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi! But we can still complain and say a lot of things about apple here. But why not let apple hear from us by writing to them. I still won

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Jamie Pauls
To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com > On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > You can report bugs to accessibil...@apple.co

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You can report bugs to accessibil...@apple.com. You can also, if you have access to the Apple Bug Reporter, Radar, use that system to file bugs against the “Accessibility” classification. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To u

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Hey Anders, No, you cannot restore El Capitan preferences to Yosemite. Sorry. You had better either have a Yosemite backup, or start from scratch. As for browsing on the web, it’s just possible that one of the reasons you aren’t experiencing the issues others were is that you were using Windo

RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread george b
05:52 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi! But we can still complain and say a lot of things about apple here. But why not let apple hear from us by writing to them. I still won’t stop using my mac but i want it to be better for people with blin

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
;> Mac back in 2010. > >>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. > >>>>>>> Yours truly, > >>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >&

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Well i don’t see much of the issues you’re all talking about but i still use my windows and linux system for much of my web surfing as i want to have good braille support when using the web. /A > On 16 Oct 2015, at 15:29, Phil Halton wrote: > > Windows is starting to look like an option aga

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! So how do i move settings from my old mac mini with el capitan beta to the new macbook air with Yosemite? Can this be done? /A > On 16 Oct 2015, at 10:31, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh yeah, and I can’t tell you how much I love the new mail bug when I delete > a thread of messages and then a

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Devin Prater
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >&g

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom
wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>>>> Mac back

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom
c >>>>>> back in 2010. >>>>>> >>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
; back in 2010. >>>>>> >>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >&

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Ryan Mann
t;>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I

RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread matthew dyer
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Windows is starting to look like an option again. Glad I never left it and kept it as a VM on my MBA. Maybe it's time to get a Wi

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I sadly disagree that NVDA is competent enough to replace JAWS or Window-Eyes. Getting there as more and more apps are supported, for sure, but not there yet; that’s simply not how the Windows ecosystem works in practice, in my experience. The Mac has a large body of natively Cocoa software ac

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
at in mind though. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I do think Apple is more committed to accessibility than Microsoft, but in the last couple years, Apple's q

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, much as I love the Open Sorcery in the fundamentals of OS X, I think blind software engineers aren’t likely, if for no other reason than that most of Apple’s development methodology is sadly inherently visual. Xcode promises to get better but unlike on Windows we realistically can’t draw

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread David Chittenden
>>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>>

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread CJ Daniel
Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I >>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there since >>>> I finally got successfully

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries
arted using the >>>>>>> Mac back in 2010. > >>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. > >>>>>>> Yours truly, > >>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed > >>>>>&g

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
;>>>>> back in 2010. >>>>>> >>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sad

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Devin Prater
;> Yours truly, >>>>> >>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Oc

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Mike Arrigo
stead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" To: Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi, Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experienc

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Mary Otten
ese problems. >>>>> >>>>> Yours truly, >>>>> >>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>&g

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I >>>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there >>>&g

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Devin Prater
t;>> I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around this >>>> being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? >>>> Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? >>>> >>>&

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Devin Prater
Well, Windows is looking good right now, and maybe I'll get a Windows laptop next, but my Mac has lasted for years. But yes, Windows 10, with Thunderbird, which isn't accessible on the mac, and Firefox, does look pretty darn good, along with Quick Windows Sequencer, and all the console emulators

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Devin Prater
Don't worry you guys. El Capitan is the best and greatest and most bug free OS ever, because we've tested it and tested, and reported again and again, and sure, big bugs were squished, but little bugs bite worse. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:31 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Daniel Miller
I’ll take a browser that’s at least accessible, unlike the new Edge browser in windows 10, thanks. > On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > Windows is starting to look like an option again. Glad I never left it and > kept it as a VM on my MBA. Maybe it's time to get a Windows mach

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Phil Halton
Windows is starting to look like an option again. Glad I never left it and kept it as a VM on my MBA. Maybe it's time to get a Windows machine with NVDA and Jaws Sent from my IPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh yeah, and I can’t tell you how much I love the ne

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
Oh yeah, and I can’t tell you how much I love the new mail bug when I delete a thread of messages and then a few minutes later a error message pops up telling me the previous batch of messages can’t be moved to the trash. Way to go Apple that is an impressive one. Why would anyone want to delete

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
It’s report-a-bug Friday. Why not send Apple a note? :) For myself, my El Cap install is back to its old Yosemite ways, with Mail being back to a crawl with large folders. I have no idea why, but rolling back is no option, either. So, yeah, accept the way things are, and suffer. Oh, and tell

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
My opinion is that once the new hotness (i.e., El Capitan) is out, you can expect that Safari will be simultaneously broken and also not quite functional once updated in previous releases, with any change to accessibility concentrating on the new hotness at the expense of the old, so that you wi

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-16 Thread Brian Fischler
adays with computers? >>> Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, October 15,

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-15 Thread Mike Arrigo
; finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around this being >> that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? Are folks >> just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Ori

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-15 Thread Daniel Miller
y better? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Safari on 10.1

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-15 Thread Sadam Ahmed
ing that > surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? Are folks just > using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" To: Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi, Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now.

Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-15 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience I’ve ever had while using OS X. > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hello. > > Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. > Safari is terrible on that website and I

Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

2015-10-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello. Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. Safari is terrible on that website and I wonder if Safari is broken? Once I sign in and browse for books either in braille or for Talking books, Safari won’t read the search results as it keeps saying dialogue. Als

Re: Safari on the Mac

2015-03-19 Thread Faisal ali
Frankly, I use master card for any online transactions on the Mac. I don’t like verified by Visa even on windows machines. > On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > I have had similar problems with HSBC verified by Visa website. When I last > used it, I don't know how, got Safa

Re: Safari on the Mac

2015-03-18 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have had similar problems with HSBC verified by Visa website. When I last used it, I don't know how, got Safari to navigate it and I also managed to do what I had to do on it. I was mightily relieved as when I used it once before I spent 4 frustrating hours as I was determined to get what I

Re: Safari on the Mac

2015-03-18 Thread David Griffith
sites do not code properly for Safari on the Mac I always hear sites talking about jaws window eyes and NVDA and sometimes IDivices but no mention of Mac and voice over! This is on UK sites and of course they say their accessible compliant! So maybe some are out of Apples hands! Colin On 17 Mar

Re: Safari on the Mac

2015-03-17 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi! OK I’m no expert but also could some of these problems be that sites do not code properly for Safari on the Mac I always hear sites talking about jaws window eyes and NVDA and sometimes IDivices but no mention of Mac and voice over! This is on UK sites and of course they say their

Re: Safari on the Mac

2015-03-17 Thread Joseph
Hello, I know. While I’m sure that things sometimes get corrected, still at other times, I kind of have my doubts. But here’s hoping that Apple listens and will in time correct things. I wish they would demonstrate a little more willing to the consumer that they are really trying to correct acce

Re: Safari on the Mac

2015-03-17 Thread David Griffith
I did so last year but so far to no affect. DavidGriffith On 17/03/2015 20:34, Joseph wrote: Hello, Please express this to Apple Accessibility. accessibil...@apple.com On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, David Griffith wrote: I have changed the subject line to r

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