The only problem is that Jaws costs a lot of money and Voice Over comes with the Mac and has no ILM life. I have thought about getting a small windows lap top but haven't done anything about it as yet. I do wish there was better Braille sufport on the Mac.
Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Oct 2015, at 4:46 p.m., Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: > > They should really hire a blind software engineer. I think that's about the > only way we'll get any progress. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Hey guy, >> >> Thanks so much for pointing out this is why it is great to wait to the next >> version of an operating system comes out. Wow, what a original novice >> concept that has never ever been pointed out on this list. >> >> Ok, now that that is out of the way. I want to thank everyone who has posted >> about their issues with safari in El Capitan the IOS 8 for VO users on the >> mac. Holy cow, Apple what a crap operating system. Thankfully I will be >> rolling back this weekend. Just need to do some more backups. Seriously, I >> love Apple, but you got to call them out when they shit the bed and El >> Capitan is just that. Apple claimed IOS 9 and El Capitan were going to be >> focused on Quality Control instead of fancy new things. Well, how can Apple >> expect any VO user that they seriously test VO when safari on a lot of >> websites is absolutely unusable. It is great that VO seems to be much >> snappier but with it constantly crashing and turning on and off it is >> unusable, and I am finding the same issue in chrome on the same websites so >> it is definitely VO. >> >> Another issue which I have not seen posted is how VO just does not read >> things. For example go through your contact list in contacts and you will >> constantly have to go back up to a previous contact and then back down again >> to get VO to read it. These two issues alone are so severe that Apple should >> fire anyone doing Quality Control for VO or they just do not care about the >> quality of it. Very disappointed in Apple again. >>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>> >>> This is why it’s always best to wait until at least the first, and >>> sometimes the second major update before installing a new version of the >>> operating system, let the major bugs get worked out first. >>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >>>> >>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the Mac >>>> back in 2010. >>>> >>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>> >>>> Yours truly, >>>> >>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I >>>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there >>>>> since I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around >>>>> this being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with >>>>> computers? Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is >>>>> it any better? >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience >>>>> I’ve ever had while using OS X. >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. >>>>>> Safari is terrible on that website and I wonder if Safari is broken? >>>>>> Once I sign in and browse for books either in braille or for Talking >>>>>> books, Safari won’t read the search results as it keeps saying dialogue. >>>>>> Also I am going to try out Overdrive again in due course so I hope it’s >>>>>> been fixed with IOS9 as I had problems with it when I tried it on the I >>>>>> phone 6 Plus. Now I am using the 6 Plus S wonder if it will improve. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wish I could get rid of the favourites bar in safari and get it back >>>>>> to how it was when I was using it in Yosemite. 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