They should really hire a blind software engineer. I think that's about the only way we'll get any progress.
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: > > Hey guy, > > Thanks so much for pointing out this is why it is great to wait to the next > version of an operating system comes out. Wow, what a original novice concept > that has never ever been pointed out on this list. > > Ok, now that that is out of the way. I want to thank everyone who has posted > about their issues with safari in El Capitan the IOS 8 for VO users on the > mac. Holy cow, Apple what a crap operating system. Thankfully I will be > rolling back this weekend. Just need to do some more backups. Seriously, I > love Apple, but you got to call them out when they shit the bed and El > Capitan is just that. Apple claimed IOS 9 and El Capitan were going to be > focused on Quality Control instead of fancy new things. Well, how can Apple > expect any VO user that they seriously test VO when safari on a lot of > websites is absolutely unusable. It is great that VO seems to be much > snappier but with it constantly crashing and turning on and off it is > unusable, and I am finding the same issue in chrome on the same websites so > it is definitely VO. > > Another issue which I have not seen posted is how VO just does not read > things. For example go through your contact list in contacts and you will > constantly have to go back up to a previous contact and then back down again > to get VO to read it. These two issues alone are so severe that Apple should > fire anyone doing Quality Control for VO or they just do not care about the > quality of it. Very disappointed in Apple again. >> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >> >> This is why it’s always best to wait until at least the first, and sometimes >> the second major update before installing a new version of the operating >> system, let the major bugs get worked out first. >>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >>> >>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the Mac >>> back in 2010. >>> >>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>> >>> Yours truly, >>> >>> Sadam Ahmed >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I >>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there since >>>> I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around this >>>> being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? >>>> Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience >>>> I’ve ever had while using OS X. >>>> >>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello. >>>>> >>>>> Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. >>>>> Safari is terrible on that website and I wonder if Safari is broken? >>>>> Once I sign in and browse for books either in braille or for Talking >>>>> books, Safari won’t read the search results as it keeps saying dialogue. >>>>> Also I am going to try out Overdrive again in due course so I hope it’s >>>>> been fixed with IOS9 as I had problems with it when I tried it on the I >>>>> phone 6 Plus. Now I am using the 6 Plus S wonder if it will improve. >>>>> >>>>> I wish I could get rid of the favourites bar in safari and get it back to >>>>> how it was when I was using it in Yosemite. 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