Hi, The bug with VO cutting off words in links in Safari is confirmed here. It was really bad once during the beta cycles so i reported it to the bug reporter and it has gotten gradually better but we’re not all the way there yet. For me, and i repeat for me though, it’s not a deal breaker. Regarding your mail bug, are you by any chance using Gmail as your mail provider? I have seen this bug you mention where mail can’t be moved to trash but only from Gmail accounts. This happened earlier than ElCap but is still present. Is there maybe a communication problem between GMail and the mail client? /Krister
> 17 okt. 2015 kl. 22:23 skrev Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com>: > > Hi Jamie, > > I had serious safari bugs with VO being extremely unstable meaning sites that > i personally visit a lot fantasy pros and Facebook two that come right to > mind constantly would cause VO to crash. When I say crash VO would turn off > as I would hear the click VO makes when you turn it on and then I would hear > Welcome to VoiceOVer. Additionally on a lot of sites if you were going from > link to link using your down arrow VO would read one link but not the next > link. You would have to hit the up arrow then down arrow again and then VO > would read the next link. Got to be quite frustrating and counterproductive. > I did enjoy the snappiness and responsiveness of VO in mail, but in mail > while going through these lists and deleting messages I would constantly get > error messages that mail could not move the deleted item to the trash > therefore cluttering up my inbox. > > I decided to roll back to Yosemite which was a bloody awful experience as I > got something I have never seen before on a mac meaning VO was basically > reading a word then gone for a minute or two then back and same over and > over. Spoke to Apple Accessibility this morning and the guy was fantastic. We > went over all of my issues the exact steps I took and the guy even admitted > that yes, VO users have had some very serious issues in El Capitan and that > the fix is coming soon. He then got me started on doing a time machine > restore. I left for a few hours just got back and thankfully everything is > back to running the way it was on Yosemite. So yes a lot of frustration and > anger, but not once did I say I was leaving Apple, and I am quite thankful to > have such a valuable resource as the Apple Accessibility phone number and > Time Machine. >> On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:44 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that >> when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look very >> appealing. Or the opposite. How many times have we seen unhappy users of iOS >> devices state they will go with some other brand? Its a knee jerk reaction >> to what seems to be insurmountable frustrations. We do not need to feed into >> this. >> >> Chris, you are right up there with the best of them in this respect. Yet >> how some people on this list overlook *your* drama and try their best to >> help you? My hat is off to those people. >> >> We all have our moments of insurmountable frustration. Its a good time to >> walk away, get some fresh air or coffee, anything but sit there fuming. >> >> A good strategy would be akin to a well known TV detective hwo would say, >> "Just the facts, ma'am". In other works, state the issue, leave the drama >> out of it, get to the point and pray that someone will provide a quick >> solution. And if you were smart and walked away, you just might come back to >> that solution. >> >> The indisputable truth of it is that nothing will ever be 100% just the way >> we want it. When Apple works. Apple is peachy. But let one thing go wrong >> and Apple is the scum of the earth. That accomplishes nothing. Fact is, >> human error will *always* be part of the equation. There is no escaping that. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited >> in the past. What if it were true? >> >> On 10/17/2015 11:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>> I'm not meaning this to be disrespectful, but I agree totally with >>> Jamie. In all this drama about how the mac is worse, and how Windows is >>> becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I >>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>> just want the facts. >>> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>> >>> To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are >>> experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? >>> >>> >>> >>> Take care and have a great day. >>> Jamie Pauls >>> jamiepa...@gmail.com <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu >>>> <listse...@me.com <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You can report bugs to accessibil...@apple.com >>>> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>. 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