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Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: > > The only problem is that Jaws costs a lot of money and Voice Over comes with > the Mac and has no ILM life. I have thought about getting a small windows lap > top but haven't done anything about it as yet. I do wish there was better > Braille sufport on the Mac. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 16 Oct 2015, at 4:46 p.m., Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: >> >> They should really hire a blind software engineer. I think that's about the >> only way we'll get any progress. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey guy, >>> >>> Thanks so much for pointing out this is why it is great to wait to the next >>> version of an operating system comes out. Wow, what a original novice >>> concept that has never ever been pointed out on this list. >>> >>> Ok, now that that is out of the way. I want to thank everyone who has >>> posted about their issues with safari in El Capitan the IOS 8 for VO users >>> on the mac. Holy cow, Apple what a crap operating system. Thankfully I will >>> be rolling back this weekend. Just need to do some more backups. Seriously, >>> I love Apple, but you got to call them out when they shit the bed and El >>> Capitan is just that. Apple claimed IOS 9 and El Capitan were going to be >>> focused on Quality Control instead of fancy new things. Well, how can Apple >>> expect any VO user that they seriously test VO when safari on a lot of >>> websites is absolutely unusable. It is great that VO seems to be much >>> snappier but with it constantly crashing and turning on and off it is >>> unusable, and I am finding the same issue in chrome on the same websites so >>> it is definitely VO. >>> >>> Another issue which I have not seen posted is how VO just does not read >>> things. For example go through your contact list in contacts and you will >>> constantly have to go back up to a previous contact and then back down >>> again to get VO to read it. These two issues alone are so severe that Apple >>> should fire anyone doing Quality Control for VO or they just do not care >>> about the quality of it. Very disappointed in Apple again. >>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is why it’s always best to wait until at least the first, and >>>> sometimes the second major update before installing a new version of the >>>> operating system, let the major bugs get worked out first. >>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >>>>> >>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the Mac >>>>> back in 2010. >>>>> >>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>> >>>>> Yours truly, >>>>> >>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I >>>>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there >>>>>> since I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around >>>>>> this being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with >>>>>> computers? Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is >>>>>> it any better? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience >>>>>> I’ve ever had while using OS X. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. >>>>>>> Safari is terrible on that website and I wonder if Safari is broken? >>>>>>> Once I sign in and browse for books either in braille or for Talking >>>>>>> books, Safari won’t read the search results as it keeps saying >>>>>>> dialogue. Also I am going to try out Overdrive again in due course so >>>>>>> I hope it’s been fixed with IOS9 as I had problems with it when I tried >>>>>>> it on the I phone 6 Plus. Now I am using the 6 Plus S wonder if it >>>>>>> will improve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wish I could get rid of the favourites bar in safari and get it back >>>>>>> to how it was when I was using it in Yosemite. I apologise if I have >>>>>>> misspelt the name wrong again but I try to spell it wright. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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