Re: Checking Finnish localization Was: Bug: Incorrect language used in figure caption headers

2025-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:25:39AM +0200, Matti Lehtonen wrote: > Is Qt5 Designer possible to configure to use only Finnish terms in UI > designs? Or is this actually a fixed property of .ui files? I am not aware how to do this. If you want to test your translation your best shot is to actually co

Checking Finnish localization Was: Bug: Incorrect language used in figure caption headers

2025-03-07 Thread Matti Lehtonen
Hi, I have now checked the Finnish translations at file po/fi.po. I have also tested poedit and lokalize tools, and I think that I shall use lokalize in actual translations. I can check the context of term usage, by links to .ui files, but I noticed that QT 5 Designer uses English translations an

Re: Bug: Incorrect language used in figure caption headers

2025-03-03 Thread Matti Lehtonen
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 at 22:29, Pavel Sanda wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 12:45:17PM +0200, Matti Lehtonen wrote: > > > The term "Scheme" is more difficult as it depends from the context (or > > field of science), but several mathematical dictionaries suggest > > "Scheme" "Kaavio" > > Context-wis

Re: Bug: Incorrect language used in figure caption headers

2025-03-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 12:45:17PM +0200, Matti Lehtonen wrote: > May I assume that my lyx document is not needed any more? Yes. > Maybe the LyX installation package (in most Linux platforms) needs more > recommended packages for installation, like texlive-lang-* packages.. This is really not un

Re: Bug: Incorrect language used in figure caption headers

2025-03-02 Thread Matti Lehtonen
; > the generated PDF uses incorrect English caption headers. > > Can you share example document showing your problem? > When I create new document, change language to Finish > I see figure caption ni PDF as Kuva which is ok. > > Do you have babel-finish installed? > I checke

Re: Bug: Incorrect language used in figure caption headers

2025-03-01 Thread Pavel Sanda
you share example document showing your problem? When I create new document, change language to Finish I see figure caption ni PDF as Kuva which is ok. Do you have babel-finish installed? Part of my latex log shows: ... ) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty Package: babel 2022/12/26

Re: [LyX/master] Fix display of page references when language is not specified

2024-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
page references when language is not specified Riki, this is candidate for branch. A pretty minor issue, but one more use of Inset::buffer(). If we are scared that this may crash, I can use _() instead of B_(). I am not sure about the context of this message and what we actually want. Thanks

Re: [LyX/master] Fix display of page references when language is not specified

2024-07-05 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 7/5/24 10:25 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 05/07/2024 à 16:18, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : commit 6f6d9b631d110fb71fcd99351b4f40d58451700a Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date:   Fri Jul 5 16:10:17 2024 +0200 Fix display of page references when language is not specified Riki

Re: [LyX/master] Fix display of page references when language is not specified

2024-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 05/07/2024 à 16:18, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : commit 6f6d9b631d110fb71fcd99351b4f40d58451700a Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: Fri Jul 5 16:10:17 2024 +0200 Fix display of page references when language is not specified Riki, this is candidate for branch. A pretty minor issue

Re: Bug in language conversion ?

2024-04-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, dem 17.04.2024 um 23:31 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > I wouldn't rate it a bug, but I also would prefer if insets > > (generally, > > not only in the case here) would inherit language changes from > > selections. > > Do inset inherit lang

Re: Bug in language conversion ?

2024-04-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
would inherit language changes from selections. Do inset inherit language from outside world? I think we have a problem with this idea of inheritance. At least, it should work as it does for fonts. JMarc -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

Re: [LyX/master] Disable language package choice if the class preloads a package

2024-04-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, dem 13.04.2024 um 08:07 + schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: > commit 5477451e36cd9ff4e99aefea2627fbf63e028004 > Author: Juergen Spitzmueller > Date:   Sat Apr 13 10:07:18 2024 +0200 > >     Disable language package choice if the class preloads a package Another cand

Re: Bug in language conversion ?

2024-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 17:10 +0100 schrieb José Matos: > In principle I agree with you. > Is there a counter example where this is undesirable? Theoretically I can think of cases where one uses, for instance, info insets in a specific language that should not be changed. But this c

Re: Bug in language conversion ?

2024-04-12 Thread José Matos
On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 13:57 +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > I wouldn't rate it a bug, but I also would prefer if insets > (generally, not only in the case here) would inherit language changes > from selections. In principle I agree with you. Is there a counter example where this

Re: Bug in language conversion ?

2024-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Additional. I wouldn't rate it a bug, but I also would prefer if insets (generally, not only in the case here) would inherit language changes from selections. -- Jürgen -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

Bug in language conversion ?

2024-04-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Dear Developers When I select section 4.10.1.1 in the French copy of Additional.lyx and convert it to French, I see that the optional argument of the list items remain untranslated. This trigger compilation errors like : Missing \endscname inserted because of the \foreignlanguage{} encapsula

Re: LyX 2.4.0, Listing, and computer language?

2024-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, dem 10.04.2024 um 15:11 + schrieb Bernt Lie: > > How can I add another computer language to the Program Listing > Settings? >   >  * Is there a file where I can add reserved words, etc.? >  * …and then have it show up in the Program Listing Settings langu

Re: LyX 2.4.0, Listing, and computer language?

2024-04-10 Thread José Matos
On Wed, 2024-04-10 at 15:11 +, Bernt Lie wrote: > > > How can I add another computer language to the Program Listing > Settings? >   >  * Is there a file where I can add reserved words, etc.? >  * …and then have it show up in the Program Listing Settings language >

LyX 2.4.0, Listing, and computer language?

2024-04-10 Thread Bernt Lie
How can I add another computer language to the Program Listing Settings? * Is there a file where I can add reserved words, etc.? * ...and then have it show up in the Program Listing Settings language choice? -B -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org

Re: [LyX/master] If language needs to be reset at the end of footnotes or floats

2023-07-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 03:28:29PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 18.07.2023 um 09:13 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > Attached is a smaller example that gives the same error. Does that > > work for you? > > Yes, thanks. Try again. Thanks, looks good. I think another case m

Re: [LyX/master] If language needs to be reset at the end of footnotes or floats

2023-07-18 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 18.07.2023 um 09:13 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > Attached is a smaller example that gives the same error. Does that > work for you? Yes, thanks. Try again. -- Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lis

Re: [LyX/master] If language needs to be reset at the end of footnotes or floats

2023-07-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 02:45:08PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 18.07.2023 um 08:01 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > I'm not sure, but I think this commit might have broken the following > > test: > > > >   DEFAULTOUTPUT_export/export/latex/inputenc-luatex-utf8_pdf5_texF >

Re: [LyX/master] If language needs to be reset at the end of footnotes or floats

2023-07-18 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 18.07.2023 um 08:01 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > I'm not sure, but I think this commit might have broken the following > test: > >   DEFAULTOUTPUT_export/export/latex/inputenc-luatex-utf8_pdf5_texF I am not able to compile this document due to a font error. Are you able to pr

Re: [LyX/master] If language needs to be reset at the end of footnotes or floats

2023-07-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 03:20:32PM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > commit 243b0ef90c09d52ba52e9918f2f80ba4557d068e > Author: Juergen Spitzmueller > Date: Sun Jul 16 16:31:31 2023 +0200 > > If language needs to be reset at the end of footnotes or floats > &

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 01:21:07PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Sonntag, dem 16.07.2023 um 17:00 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > I only get the exception when compiling the ja Math.lyx from the > > 2.3.x branch. > > I see, thanks. Should be fixed. Thanks, looks good. I took a look at

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, dem 16.07.2023 um 17:00 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > I only get the exception when compiling the ja Math.lyx from the > 2.3.x branch. I see, thanks. Should be fixed. -- Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-deve

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-16 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 06:33:08PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Sonntag, dem 16.07.2023 um 11:31 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > When I compile ja math, I now get a "Exception: std::exception". > > Does it say more than that? Exception where, why? > > (I don't get it) I'm sorry, I le

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, dem 16.07.2023 um 11:31 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > When I compile ja math, I now get a "Exception: std::exception". Does it say more than that? Exception where, why? (I don't get it) -- Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-devel m

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-16 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 04:36:06PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Freitag, dem 07.07.2023 um 05:55 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > I think this commit creates an extra line in the PDF output in some > > cases. See the extra line after the subequations in the attached > > example. > > I b

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 07.07.2023 um 05:55 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > I think this commit creates an extra line in the PDF output in some > cases. See the extra line after the subequations in the attached > example. I believe the cause is elsewhere and was just triggered by this commit. Can you pl

Re: [LyX/master] Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset.

2023-07-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 08:43:35AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > commit ef11fdc77dc617ec8059216f745fd51ad4c527f2 > Author: Juergen Spitzmueller > Date: Fri Aug 14 09:08:46 2020 +0200 > > Assure language is properly closed before non-inheriting inset. > ---

Re: Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 07:23:43PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 08.02.2023 um 13:22 -0500 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > Would it be helpful to see the ctest results for XeTeX and LuaTeX > > (with system fonts) when "Always Babel" is checked? i.e., I would > > essentially sed i

Re: Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, dem 08.02.2023 um 13:22 -0500 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > Would it be helpful to see the ctest results for XeTeX and LuaTeX > (with system fonts) when "Always Babel" is checked? i.e., I would > essentially sed in the '\language_package babel' to the .lyx files > and then run the ctests

Re: Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 07:14:20PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 08.02.2023 um 13:10 -0500 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > But aren't there cases where both Babel and Polyglossia are > > reasonable choices? > > Yes, with XeTeX and LuaTeX. > > > Let me try to answer the above qu

Re: Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, dem 08.02.2023 um 13:10 -0500 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > But aren't there cases where both Babel and Polyglossia are > reasonable choices? Yes, with XeTeX and LuaTeX. > Let me try to answer the above question: > > When both Babel and Polyglossia are both appropriate, if the user > w

Re: Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 07:05:22PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, dem 08.02.2023 um 12:57 -0500 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > There is an option "Always Babel". Would it make sense to also have > > "Always Polyglossia"? > > No. > > Babel works with classic and new engines, polyglo

Re: Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, dem 08.02.2023 um 12:57 -0500 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > There is an option "Always Babel". Would it make sense to also have > "Always Polyglossia"? No. Babel works with classic and new engines, polyglossia only with new ones. Thus always would fail where polyglossia is not preferred

Language settings: add option "Always Polyglossia" ?

2023-02-08 Thread Scott Kostyshak
There is an option "Always Babel". Would it make sense to also have "Always Polyglossia"? Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

Re: [LyX/master] Fix language direction switch issue

2022-02-21 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, dem 21.02.2022 um 09:16 +0100 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: > commit 0d7d8c37e3962dab0e76dd5b21bfee308e522df2 > Author: Juergen Spitzmueller > Date:   Mon Feb 21 09:49:32 2022 +0100 > >     Fix language direction switch issue >     >     reported at https://mar

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2021-12-06 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:14:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > commit 049aed8e08ab0da498561e3382e009852cd1d83d > Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Date: Wed Jul 17 01:01:49 2019 +0200 > > Respect OS-level keyboard language > > This bug provides two fea

Re: #11732: ĐẠO in vietnamese language does not show properly

2020-02-10 Thread Minh Huy Bui
everything is capitalized. To type in ĐẠO: DDAOJ On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:33 AM LyX Ticket Tracker wrote: > #11732: ĐẠO in vietnamese language does not show properly > -+- > Reporter: Huy Bui | Owner: lasgouttes > T

Re: Language-switching error when compiling supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx

2019-09-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 04:14:04PM +0200, Günter Milde wrote: > On 31.08.19, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 11:41:17AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > > Am Freitag, den 30.08.2019, 21:29 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > > I don't remember if this is being discussed else

Re: Language-switching error when compiling supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx

2019-08-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
uick check (no time for more ATM) and noted that it is > not dependent on a particular language, but apparently on the sheer > number of languages used in a child document. If you cut down, the > error eventually points to another language than swissgerman. > > So the MWE will pro

Re: Language-switching error when compiling supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx

2019-08-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 31.08.2019, 08:46 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > Sounds good. Günter, can I do that and then invert this test and mark > it > as a "tex issue" ? I had a very quick check (no time for more ATM) and noted that it is not dependent on a particular language, bu

Re: Language-switching error when compiling supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx

2019-08-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 11:41:17AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Freitag, den 30.08.2019, 21:29 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > I don't remember if this is being discussed elsewhere. If I compile > > the > > following file with XeTeX I get an error: > > > > autotests/export/latex/lang

Re: Language-switching error when compiling supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx

2019-08-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, den 30.08.2019, 21:29 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > I don't remember if this is being discussed elsewhere. If I compile > the > following file with XeTeX I get an error: > > autotests/export/latex/languages/supported-languages_babel_non- > tex.lyx > > The first error is: > > !

Language-switching error when compiling supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx

2019-08-30 Thread Scott Kostyshak
I don't remember if this is being discussed elsewhere. If I compile the following file with XeTeX I get an error: autotests/export/latex/languages/supported-languages_babel_non-tex.lyx The first error is: ! File ended while scanning use of \bbl@inireader. \par l.3 \i

Re: Translating string affected by the document language

2019-07-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:27:02PM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 06:08:45PM +0300, Guy Rutenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > How can one get a list of all translatable strings that get translated > > according to the current document's language? &

Re: Translating string affected by the document language

2019-07-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 23/07/2019 à 17:08, Guy Rutenberg a écrit : Hi, How can one get a list of all translatable strings that get translated accoring to the current document's language? This is a continuation of the discussion in https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11607. I think that basically nobody use

Re: Translating string affected by the document language

2019-07-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 06:08:45PM +0300, Guy Rutenberg wrote: > Hi, > > How can one get a list of all translatable strings that get translated > according to the current document's language? lib/layouttranslations "he" is flagged as being not reviewed for

Translating string affected by the document language

2019-07-23 Thread Guy Rutenberg
Hi, How can one get a list of all translatable strings that get translated accoring to the current document's language? This is a continuation of the discussion in https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11607. I think that basically nobody uses the Hebrew translation for the GUI (most people p

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 08:16:56AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 17.07.2019, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > * not working with Linux (although 1/ works with Qt4); it seems that Qt5 > > supports switching through ibus, but I do not know what this means. Personal

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-22 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 19:31 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Nevertheless hare is what I propose: This is not exactly to my taste, but maybe we need both. A side-pane with icons and a normal dialog with combos. LibreOffice also has both, after all. Jürgen signature.asc Description: T

Re: [LyX/master] UserGuide: update prefs language documentation

2019-07-22 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, den 22.07.2019, 15:10 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Same for me. Enjoy! Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [LyX/master] UserGuide: update prefs language documentation

2019-07-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 22/07/2019 à 15:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Yes, maybe. I also thought that I would probably search for the new OS keyboard language toggle at keyboard rather than language. But then, I think this all depends on who searches. I would make sense indeed. I am about to leave for Summer

Re: [LyX/master] UserGuide: update prefs language documentation

2019-07-22 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, den 22.07.2019, 14:14 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Nice work on the pref pane. On thing I wonder about: shouldn't the > GUI > language selector move to the User Interface pane? I find it > difficult > to locate. Actually, I would also move the >

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
o icon is pressed * there is no need for "ignore" if we are in immediate change mode (which makes sense for a side bar) * only color and language need to be a menu * on top (bottom?), there could be an example text, or maybe just a text description of what default is and what the

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-21 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 11:08 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > No, I meant the current Languages submenu. It is more discoverable > to keep it anyway. Done. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-21 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 11:08 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Le 21/07/2019 à 09:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : > > Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 00:19 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc > > Lasgouttes: > > > As a developer who had to open weird MWEs from trac, I would > > > quickly > > > be overwhe

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 21/07/2019 à 09:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 00:19 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: As a developer who had to open weird MWEs from trac, I would quickly be overwhelmed by weird languages. Probably wise to open these with a specific build/user dir anyway, i

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 21/07/2019 à 08:43, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 00:19 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: As a developer who had to open weird MWEs from trac, I would quickly be overwhelmed by weird languages. Having the Language submenu always available would be a big plus

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-21 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 00:19 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > As a developer who had to open weird MWEs from trac, I would quickly > be overwhelmed by weird languages. Probably wise to open these with a specific build/user dir anyway, in order to keep the own session/work history unaffec

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 00:21 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > But despite all your > efforts, the Character dialog is still not the one I appreciate the > most :) Suggestions are welcome. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 21.07.2019, 00:19 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > As a developer who had to open weird MWEs from trac, I would quickly > be > overwhelmed by weird languages. > > Having the Language submenu always available would be a big plus. I don't understand. T

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 16:31, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:29 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: It would be usable in the sense that the already used languages are grouped together and I guess the cursor would be on it by default. But this is already the case. I meant

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
many might frequently need one from a specific subset. As a developer who had to open weird MWEs from trac, I would quickly be overwhelmed by weird languages. Having the Language submenu always available would be a big plus. JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:31 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > > It would be usable in the sense that the already used languages > are > > grouped together and I guess the cursor would be on it by default. > > But this is already the case. I meant, would the huge menu of all > other > lang

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:29 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > Granted, but the argument I was discussing was "it is a bit far > > away". > > FWIW, LibreOffice has this. Note that I am not opposed to this as an additional thing. I was just arguing that we already have an accessible UI.

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:29 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > It would be usable in the sense that the already used languages are > grouped together and I guess the cursor would be on it by default. But this is already the case. I meant, would the huge menu of all other languages be use

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 16:26, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 08:19 -0600 schrieb Joel Kulesza: It is visible. Granted, but the argument I was discussing was "it is a bit far away". FWIW, LibreOffice has this. JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:28 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Yes, but only when there are at least two languages. We could add "Change Language..." when we have only one. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 16:25, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:17 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: BTW, would it be possible/desirable to put all the languages in the Edit/Language submenu but have the buffer languages at the top of the list with a separator? This would

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 16:25, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:17 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: BTW, would it be possible/desirable to put all the languages in the Edit/Language submenu but have the buffer languages at the top of the list with a separator? This would

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 08:19 -0600 schrieb Joel Kulesza: > It is visible. Granted, but the argument I was discussing was "it is a bit far away". Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 16:17 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > BTW, would it be possible/desirable to put all the languages in the > Edit/Language submenu but have the buffer languages at the top of > the > list with a separator? This would be a long list. Is this usable?

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Joel Kulesza
erpinning association > > > of > > > languages with countries/nations. > > > > Indicate language in status bar and add a menu there? > > How is this easier to access than the context menu? > It is visible. I've run into several users who didn'

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
/nations. Indicate language in status bar and add a menu there? How is this easier to access than the context menu? With a touchpad, I do not find the menu easy to use. But it could be just me. BTW, would it be possible/desirable to put all the languages in the Edit/Language submenu but have the

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 15:40 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > As to the flag icon idea, I have to say (with my sociolinguist hat > > on) > > that I am not particularly thrilled by the underpinning association > > of > > languages with countries/nations. &g

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 14:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 14:11 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: But how does the algorithm decide if multiple possible languages are used in the document? I would say the context language is a very good bet. Could you give a concrete

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
particularly thrilled by the underpinning association of languages with countries/nations. Indicate language in status bar and add a menu there? JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
keyboard setup is that I use a different keyboard per script, not per language. I type all western language with a US keyboard with composite key enabled. I cannot type a different script with that keyboard layout, so for that I switch keyboard and in that case only I would like LyX to follow

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko: > Right, but I was not able to find any icons for languages ... and I > also have no idea, how they should look alike. I am not challenging your personal solution. I just would not want to implement this in our general UI. I don't see a

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Kornel Benko
rrent buffer. I > > understand it does not solve your use case, but it not possible to > > have everyone's favorite language there. > > Note that we provide a switch via menu (and context menu) already for > all languages of the current buffer. > > As to the flag icon idea, I ha

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
e everyone's favorite language there. Note that we provide a switch via menu (and context menu) already for all languages of the current buffer. As to the flag icon idea, I have to say (with my sociolinguist hat on) that I am not particularly thrilled by the underpinning association of languag

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 14:38, Kornel Benko a écrit : I have something similar ... but without keyboard change. Implemented as part of stdtoolbars.inc. The attached may make it more clear (The flags represent the languages) (Added + Separator + Item "Set language g

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 14:11 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > But how does the algorithm decide if multiple possible languages > > are > > used in the document? I would say the context language is a very > > good > > bet. > > Could you give a concr

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Kornel Benko
Separator + Item "Set language german" "language ngerman" + Item "Set language slovak" "language slovak" + Item "Set language russian" "language russian" + Item "

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Cor Blom
keyboard per script, not per language. I type all western language with a US keyboard with composite key enabled. I cannot type a different script with that keyboard layout, so for that I switch keyboard and in that case only I would like LyX to follow that change by changing the language. I think

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 20/07/2019 à 14:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : But how does the algorithm decide if multiple possible languages are used in the document? I would say the context language is a very good bet. Could you give a concrete example? JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 20.07.2019, 13:30 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > I am not sure I can follow, but it would not be good if it would not > be > > aware of language varieties. This is probably a general problem > > with > > the approach: if I have selected to writ

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
ht be a good idea to have a similar feature in LyX to switch > between document languages using a binding. That's exactly what I'd like to avoid having to do. I have a set of custom keybindings Alt+l+[e|b|d|a|...] to easily switch the language (varieties) I am often using. Within the ra

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 19/07/2019 à 18:41, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : To make this point a bit more clear, hopefully: The keyboard layouts of de_DE and de_AT are exactly identical. I don't want to setup two input methods for this just to use these two varieties in parallel in LyX. I could argue that the easiest

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 19/07/2019 à 18:34, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : I am not sure I can follow, but it would not be good if it would not be aware of language varieties. This is probably a general problem with the approach: if I have selected to write a document in Austrian German (de_AT), I would not want LyX

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 19/07/2019 à 12:46, Kornel Benko a écrit : Please make it configurable, with default to old behaviour. To be clear: this has always been my intent. I did it now in master, and the feature done as far I I am concerned. Now is the time for valid complaints ;) JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, den 19.07.2019, 18:52 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > git bisect tells me it is due to the commit below, although I do not > see why. Fixed. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 19/07/2019 à 13:51, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Also, there seems to be an empty entry now in the languages combo in text style dialog. git bisect tells me it is due to the commit below, although I do not see why. JMarc commit b2cee3dcc5eab8b7334e1dd67ffc3ee956613dae Author: Günter Mild

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, den 19.07.2019, 18:34 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > I am not sure I can follow, but it would not be good if it would not > be > aware of language varieties. This is probably a general problem with > the approach: if I have selected to write a document in Austr

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 19/07/2019 à 17:36, Kornel Benko a écrit : Another guess would be desktop language, which also is not foolproof. (Anyway, not my taste) I would like to be able to select a language and edit with this language until I select another one. It should be possible from inside lyx-session (without

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, den 19.07.2019, 17:01 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > I would really have LyX respecting my defaults.lyx settings. If > > defaults.lyx does not exist, the GUI language (or keyboard > > language, if > > we can make it work under Linux) can be used as a

Re: [LyX/master] Respect OS-level keyboard language

2019-07-19 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2019, 16:53:09 CEST schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Le 19/07/2019 à 15:00, Kornel Benko a écrit : > >> Do we agree that using the current keyboard language as new document > >> language is a good idea always? I really do not like that the default is > &

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