Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

I just joined this group and have learned so much already. First time answering. Hope this is right (works for me anyway.) Butter Cream: for the first tie put the first b-flat in the same "voice." for the 2nd tie use \repeatTie. \repeat volta 2 { 4 8 ~ r8 << { bes4~ } \\ { s4 } >> |

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Welcome! From: Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:29 PM To: Leo Correia de Verdier ; Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Thank you! I will implement your suggestions. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Mrotek Cc: Butter Cream ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Also: your tie needs to end in the same voice it started. \new Voice and the <<\\>> construct both create other voices. If you remove \new Voice = “melody” from your first attempt it will

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Also: your tie needs to end in the same voice it started. \new Voice and the <<\\>> construct both create other voices. If you remove \new Voice = “melody” from your first attempt it will work, as the last note of the tie is then in the same voice as the first. > 25 jan. 2024 kl. 00:37 skrev M

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Butter, Use \repeatTie See https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#normal-re peats Mark From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org On Behalf Of Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 1:29 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Ties acros

Re: Ties across voices

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I will point out that the documentation for those is somewhat lean. > Maybe it's a good idea to amend the documentation to say that it is possible > to create ties across voices. You just might be the best-qualified person to write s

Re: Ties across voices

On 17/06/18 21:14, Simon Albrecht wrote: I moved Tie_performer along, since you were talking about the importance of accurate MIDI for your use case. I don’t use MIDI (or hardly ever) so I can’t test reasonably, but it should work, I imagine.

Re: Ties across voices

"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Carl Sorensen" > To: "Simon Albrecht" ; "Shachar Shemesh" > ; > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: Ties across voices > > >> >> >

Re: Ties across voices

- Original Message - From: "Carl Sorensen" To: "Simon Albrecht" ; "Shachar Shemesh" ; Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Ties across voices On 6/17/18, 12:14 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Sheme

Re: Ties across voices

On 6/17/18, 12:14 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > The Tie won't tie between the voices and the chord past the voices. It seems to work if you move the Tie_engraver from Voice to Staff level: I moved Tie_performer along, since

Re: Ties across voices

On 17/06/18 19:03, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 17/06/18 07:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. I'm sorry, it seems that my challenges are not over :-( You can read more about using hidden notes to make ties span voices here: It is an interesting

Re: Ties across voices

PS. It’s helpful if you include a complete, compilable example in your requests, including a \version statement so we know which version you are using. See . Best, Simon On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy W

Re: Ties across voices

On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy Winners" by Scott Joplin, the way it was published in 1901. I can't seem to get it to display the way I want. […] The Tie won't tie between the voices and the chord past the voices. It seems to work if you mo

Re: Ties across voices

On 17/06/18 07:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. I'm sorry, it seems that my challenges are not over :-( You can read more about using hidden notes to make ties span voices here: It is an i

Re: Ties across voices

From: Pierre Perol-Schneider Date: Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 11:25 PM To: Carl Sorensen Cc: Shachar Shemesh , "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Re: Ties across voices Hi Sachar, Hi Carl, How about : \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \key aes\major \mergeDifferentlyDottedO

Re: Ties across voices

Hi Sachar, Hi Carl, How about : \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \key aes\major \mergeDifferentlyDottedOn << { g16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | \stemNeutral 8 f'16 des ees f aes, a | } \\ { g4 ges8. f16~ | \once\hideNotes f4 s } >> } Cheers, Pierre 2018-06-17 6:51 GMT+02:00 C

Re: Ties across voices

This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. Here's the first attempt: \version "2.18" \partcombine \relative {\time 2/4 \key aes\major g'16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | des8 f16 des ees f aes, a |} \relative {\time 2/4 \key aes\major g'4 \mergeD

Re: Ties across voices

Am 13.12.2016 um 11:11 schrieb Peter Toye: Urs, Andrew, Simon Thank you all very much for the solutions. I now have 4 ways to create what I need! My next task - to get ties across enharmonics, which I gather is impossible and I have to use slurs. There is a regtest for this, so it looks as if

Re: Ties across voices

Am 13.12.2016 um 11:11 schrieb Peter Toye: > Re: Ties across voices Urs, Andrew, Simon > > Thank you all very much for the solutions. I now have 4 ways to create > what I need! > > My next task - to get ties across enharmonics, which I gather is > impossible and I have t

Re: Ties across voices

Urs, Andrew, Simon Thank you all very much for the solutions. I now have 4 ways to create what I need! My next task - to get ties across enharmonics, which I gather is impossible and I have to use slurs. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - T

Re: Ties across voices

Am 12.12.2016 um 12:24 schrieb Peter Toye: So this is "my" solution. Comments inline >\relative c' { > << > >{ > \once \hide Accidental \once \hide NoteHead \once \hide Stem You need an additional \once \stemDown in my version as well. The way you create the polyphonic

Re: Ties across voices

Am 12. Dezember 2016 13:55:39 MEZ, schrieb Alexander Kobel : >On 2016-12-12 13:42, Urs Liska wrote: >> [...] BTW: Has this warning been disabled somewhere in the unstable >>> versions? From 2.19.49, I get no complaint even for << { \stemDown b' } \\ a' >> which clearly colli

Re: Ties across voices

On 2016-12-12 13:42, Urs Liska wrote: [...] BTW: Has this warning been disabled somewhere in the unstable versions? From 2.19.49, I get no complaint even for << { \stemDown b' } \\ a' >> which clearly collides... I think in this example there actually is no colliding-note-column clash bec

Re: Ties across voices

On 11.12.2016 19:01, Peter Toye wrote: Ties across voices I want to engrave some piano music which includes the attached fragment. As I understand it I need a single voice for the first chord, but two for the second. But the ties can't extend across voices. This is exactly the situation for w

Re: Ties across voices

Am 12. Dezember 2016 13:27:45 MEZ, schrieb Andrew Bernard : >​Hi All,​ > > > >On 12 December 2016 at 23:24, Alexander Kobel >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2016-12-12 12:24, Peter Toye wrote: >> >>> Andrew, Urs, >>> >>> Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. >>> >>> Andrew's method works but gi

Re: Ties across voices

Hi, On 2016-12-12 13:27, Andrew Bernard wrote: On 12 December 2016 at 23:24, Alexander Kobel mailto:a-ko...@a-kobel.de>> wrote: BTW: Has this warning been disabled somewhere in the unstable versions? From 2.19.49, I get no complaint even for << { \stemDown b' } \\ a' >> which

Re: Ties across voices

​Hi All,​ On 12 December 2016 at 23:24, Alexander Kobel wrote: > Hi, > > On 2016-12-12 12:24, Peter Toye wrote: > >> Andrew, Urs, >> >> Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. >> >> Andrew's method works but gives a warning about clashing note columns >> but the layout is fine. >> > > you

Re: Ties across voices

Hi, On 2016-12-12 12:24, Peter Toye wrote: Andrew, Urs, Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. Andrew's method works but gives a warning about clashing note columns but the layout is fine. you can add a \once \override NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t before \stemDown; this will sup

Re: Ties across voices

Andrew, Urs, Thanks both for the ideas. It's interesting. Andrew's method works but gives a warning about clashing note columns but the layout is fine. Urs' method gives two different results, depending on whether I put the 4-note chord in the 1st or 2nd voice. In the 1st voice the layout's

Re: Ties across voices

Hi Peter, Use voices. Just turn the stem down for the first F and A. \version "2.19.52" \score { << { \stemDown 4 ^~ \stemUp 8[ a'' g''] } \\ { 4 _~ } >> } Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Ties across voices

You still need a workaround, which in the case of your example is not all that ugly than in some other cases. Basically you have to double one end of the ties with a hidden voice. The good thing about your example is that this additional voice is actually continuing from there . So where the lowe

RE: Ties across voices

Mike, Thank you for your reply and the suggestion. I shall try it. “Never let the perfect be the enemy of the good!” Mark From: Mike Solomon [mailto:m...@mikesolomon.org] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 6:43 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties

Re: Ties across voices

> On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Hello, > > As far as I know, which is certainly minimal, ties cannot be input across > voices as in > << > \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceOne } > \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo } > >>. > > How could I a

RE: Ties across voices

> -Original Message- > From: Nick Payne [mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:54 PM > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Ties across voices > > On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: > > Consider the example belo

Re: Ties across voices

Am 31.03.2014 09:59, schrieb Rutger Hofman: On 03/31/2014 05:54 AM, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version "2.19.3" \new Staff << \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo 8 q >> How can I tie t

Re: Ties across voices

On 03/31/2014 05:54 AM, Nick Payne wrote: On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version "2.19.3" \new Staff << \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo 8 q >> How can I tie the lower voice's to the upper voice's ? Yo

Re: Ties across voices

Am 31.03.2014 05:54, schrieb Nick Payne: On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version "2.19.3" \new Staff << \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo 8 q >> How can I tie the lower voice's to the upper voice's ? You

Re: Ties across voices

On 31/03/14 10:56, Daniel Rosen wrote: Consider the example below: \version "2.19.3" \new Staff << \new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne c4~ } \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo 8 q >> How can I tie the lower voice's to the upper voice's ? You could use a third hidden voice: \version

Re: ties across voices

Quoting Alberto Simões : It's all in the documentation if you look: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/simultaneous-notes#suppressing-warnings-for-clashing-note-columns I confess I didn't search for it, as I would be okay with the warning :) But thanks, it makes compile clea

Re: ties across voices

On 1/14/12 14:44 , Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: "Alberto Simões" To: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: ties across voices On 1/14/12 14:31 , Alberto Simões wrote: On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway

Re: ties across voices

- Original Message - From: "Alberto Simões" To: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: ties across voices On 1/14/12 14:31 , Alberto Simões wrote: On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway to make a tie across voices easily? Th

Re: ties across voices

On 1/14/12 14:31 , Alberto Simões wrote: On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway to make a tie across voices easily? Thanks, ambs Got almost there: f8[ g a c] | g4. \tieDown d8 ~ | << { \stemOff d4 s } \new Voice { \stemUp g8[ a bes d] } >> \stemUp Where stemO

Re: ties across voices

On 1/14/12 14:11 , Alberto Simões wrote: Hello, Is there anyway to make a tie across voices easily? Thanks, ambs Got almost there: f8[ g a c] | g4. \tieDown d8 ~ | << { \stemOff d4 s } \new Voice { \stemUp g8[ a bes d] } >> \stemUp Where stemOff = { \once \overri

Re: ties across voices

best, Patrick Original-Nachricht > Datum: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:55:11 +0200 > Von: Wilbert Berendsen > An: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Re: ties across voices > Op zaterdag 01 augustus 2009, schreef Patrick Schmidt: > > how can I tie a note of one voice to a

Re: ties across voices

2009/8/1 Neil Puttock : > 2009/8/1 Patrick Schmidt : > >> how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? > > You can't.  The usual workaround is to use a hidden note: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets-big-page.html#Making-an-object-invisible-with-the-_0027

Re: ties across voices

Op zaterdag 01 augustus 2009, schreef Patrick Schmidt: > how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? There is no easy way to do just that (afaict, other than placing the Tie- Engraver in the Staff context?), but most times I fiddle a bit with voiceOne, voiceTwo etc. This is one

Re: ties across voices

2009/8/1 Patrick Schmidt : > how can I tie a note of one voice to a note of another voice? You can't. The usual workaround is to use a hidden note: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets-big-page.html#Making-an-object-invisible-with-the-_0027transparent-property Regards, Nei

Re: ties across voices -- DIFFICULT!!!

Eric Flesher gmail.com> writes: > > I am having an extremely difficult time finding an acceptable coding solution > for a fairly straightforward (though relatively complex) notational problem: ... et cetera... Here's the code: \version "2.11.51" upper = \relative c'' { \clef bass \tim