Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello Sarah, You wrote: > Ok. I had to get rid of some a naturals that it thought were errors. > when I play c minor scale on the piano I often use a flat not a > natural.I think this was what might have been tripping me up. I'll > have to listen to this and see. No pun intended. lol!

Re: Dealing with almost-repetitive stuff

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Can you use variables to do what you want? or maybe first second and third endings? Just throwing the idea out there. Take care. On Mar 1, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Evan Driscoll wrote: > How do you deal with music where there is a lot of repetition of a group > of measures, but where the dynamics or o

Dealing with almost-repetitive stuff

2013-03-01 Thread Evan Driscoll
How do you deal with music where there is a lot of repetition of a group of measures, but where the dynamics or other instructions (e.g. pizz/arco) differs between repetitions? For instance, take Holst's Mars (*cough*). The LilyPond docs have a nice snippet for being able to generate the "bah-bah-

Re: Text spanner placement

2013-03-01 Thread Nick Payne
On 02/03/13 16:16, Evan Driscoll wrote: Can I get a text spanner (e.g. for "rit.") below the staff? For example, modify the following (adapted from the reference manual 1.8.1): \relative c' { \override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = "rit." b''1\startTextSpan e,\st

Text spanner placement

2013-03-01 Thread Evan Driscoll
Can I get a text spanner (e.g. for "rit.") below the staff? For example, modify the following (adapted from the reference manual 1.8.1): \relative c' { \override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = "rit." b''1\startTextSpan e,\stopTextSpan } I'm using Lilypond 2.16.2. E

divisi parts and another general question

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ok. one more question for the night then I'll be done with this for tonight as I want to at least get the 2 violin parts written then work on viola, cello and bass tomorrow and sunday. I will be having divici parts for the second violin parts. I know odd but there you go. I tried the text thin

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ok. I had to get rid of some a naturals that it thought were errors. when I play c minor scale on the piano I often use a flat not a natural.I think this was what might have been tripping me up. I'll have to listen to this and see. No pun intended. lol! All of you rock! On Mar 1, 2013, at 3:56

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Cool. I still want to write this out by hand though so I can learn myself how to do this. The more I learn and see what I'm ding wrong the more that I will end up learning at the end and the farther I hopefully will go. He wants this scored for string section not piano though. and I might have

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
The piece is almost all quarter notes except for those pesky dotted quarter 8th patterns on beats 3 and 4. I can conduct it fine, if I had to lol! So how do I fix that unexpected '!' even though I know it's correct? It is on that e natural. It has to be. as we are temparerly modulating in to g f

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah I did that. and it seems to have worked, but hat one measure it is still complaining even though it is correct. I hate this piece lol! Ah well. I'll get this done. On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Matthew Collett wrote: > On 2/03/2013, at 11:29 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > >> There are a fla

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Nick Payne
On 02/03/13 09:44, Sarah k Alawami wrote: Hey thanks for your explanation. it is helping a bit. how ever I think it is still complaining about this measure d4 e! g4. f8 e If I recall though it is d, e natural, g, f, e flat. so Do I need to mark it as an e flat at the end of that measure, the

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.03.2013 23:44, schrieb Sarah k Alawami: Hey thanks for your explanation. it is helping a bit. how ever I think it is still complaining about this measure d4 e! g4. f8 e If I recall though it is d, e natural, g, f, e flat. so Do I need to mark it as an e flat at the end of that measure

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > Hey thanks for your explanation. it is helping a bit. how ever I think it is > still complaining > d4 e! g4. f8 e > > If I recall though it is > > d, e natural, g, f, e flat. so Do I need to mark it as an e flat at the end > of that measu

Re: Collision with \repeat tremolo and accidental of second note

2013-03-01 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/3/1 Noeck : > > > Am 01.03.2013 22:56, schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: >> In the mean time: is there a way for me to resolve this issue without >> using Inkscape to move the tremolo around? Can the vertical position >> of the tremolo be set manually? >> >> Jethro > You could move the tremolo beam u

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hey thanks for your explanation. it is helping a bit. how ever I think it is still complaining about this measure d4 e! g4. f8 e If I recall though it is d, e natural, g, f, e flat. so Do I need to mark it as an e flat at the end of that measure, the error I get is unexpected '!' and I think

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Matthew Collett
On 2/03/2013, at 11:29 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > There are a flat and a naturals and stuff all over the place so if I just > write > g4 a g4. f8 e4 | > > How will it know to write an a flat not an a natural? It won't. 'a' means A-natural. If the note is actually an A-flat, then you need

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.03.2013 23:29, schrieb Sarah k Alawami: k. I think it's starting to click a bit. but for the naturals and stuff do I still mark them? I don't' want this piece to sound a mess if I ever get a chance to hear it lol! Ok so how will lily pond know the difference between the 3 minors? There a

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
k. I think it's starting to click a bit. but for the naturals and stuff do I still mark them? I don't' want this piece to sound a mess if I ever get a chance to hear it lol! Ok so how will lily pond know the difference between the 3 minors? There are a flat and a naturals and stuff all over the

Re: Ottava and Chords

2013-03-01 Thread Noeck
> 1. Is this a default behavior of ottava? I recall v2.14.0 don't have > this behavior. Yes, this is what ottava (8va) means: These notes should be played (should sould) an octave higher than written. As you write the notes in LilyPond as they sound, they are written lower, if ottava is set. > 2

Re: Collision with \repeat tremolo and accidental of second note

2013-03-01 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
Wonderful, thank you! Jethro Noeck (01 Mar 2013 @ 23:04) Am 01.03.2013 22:56, schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: In the mean time: is there a way for me to resolve this issue without using Inkscape to move the tremolo around? Can the vertical position of the tremolo be set manually? Jethro You coul

Re: Collision with \repeat tremolo and accidental of second note

2013-03-01 Thread Noeck
Am 01.03.2013 22:56, schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: > In the mean time: is there a way for me to resolve this issue without > using Inkscape to move the tremolo around? Can the vertical position > of the tremolo be set manually? > > Jethro You could move the tremolo beam upwards (or left) in the mea

Re: Collision with \repeat tremolo and accidental of second note

2013-03-01 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
In the mean time: is there a way for me to resolve this issue without using Inkscape to move the tremolo around? Can the vertical position of the tremolo be set manually? Jethro Federico Bruni (27 Jan 2013 @ 10:54) Il 27/01/2013 10:46, m...@mikesolomon.org ha scritto: On 26 janv. 2013, at 21:5

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Sarah k Alawami writes: > Ok. I know how to notate the sharps and flats but I might have missed > in the big manual how to notate naturals and there are a lot of them > in this piece. I think I understand your problem. You think that aes writes a flat, and bis writes a sharp. This is _not_ how

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.03.2013 21:23, schrieb Sarah k Alawami: Ok. I know how to notate the sharps and flats but I might have missed in the big manual how to notate naturals and there are a lot of them in this piece. For anyone familiar with the chopin prelude in c minor right hand and possibly left hand ther

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah until I get comfortable with all of that I think I'll just write them in and trust the user to know that the bar after that should not have an accidental unless indicated. Thanks. On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Noeck wrote: > > Am 01.03.2013 21:29, schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: >> If you want

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Sarah k Alawami writes: > Yeah true. Im one of those people who need to pencil in every single > one and I'm sure my instructor might say the same thing. I would hope > most of them though are somewhat familiar with this piece even though > they might not be be able to play it. You don't need

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Noeck
Am 01.03.2013 21:29, schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: > If you want to force the display of an accidental, you can append > an exclamation mark to your note, like this: > > e4 f e4. des8 c4 | d!4 e > You can also put the natural (or sharp or flat) sign between brackets, > by using the question mark:

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
wjm writes: > Greetings David, > I have fiddled a bit with your code > \score { > { c'4 c' c' c' } > \addlyrics > { \footnote #'(-2 . -2) \markup "text" > \markup Mu- sic is nice } > } > > and have come up with this:- > > \version "2.17.12" > music = \relative c' > { > c d e g > f g

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-03-01 Thread wjm
Greetings David, I have fiddled a bit with your code \score { { c'4 c' c' c' } \addlyrics { \footnote #'(-2 . -2) \markup "text" \markup Mu- sic is nice } } and have come up with this:- \version "2.17.12" music = \relative c' { c d e g f g g a b c2. } words = \lyricmode { \footno

Re: spanners not showing up

2013-03-01 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Freitag, den 01. März 2013 um 19:20:25 Uhr (-) schrieb Phil Holmes: > > Checkout glissando on: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/spanners Thanks and sorry for the noise. I should have found that myself... ___ lilypond-use

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah true. Im one of those people who need to pencil in every single one and I'm sure my instructor might say the same thing. I would hope most of them though are somewhat familiar with this piece even though they might not be be able to play it. Thanks all. Onward and upwards. On Mar 1, 20

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
yeah I looked in the articulation sections and was a bit confused. I'm just learning right now via the tutorial but i"m sure all of this will come naturally no pun intended at some point lol! Thanks. It's time to do some piano picking to see if I have the notes right. lol! On Mar 1, 2013, a

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.03.2013 21:29, schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: If you want to force the display of an accidental, you can append an exclamation mark to your note, like this: e4 f e4. des8 c4 | d!4 e You can also put the natural (or sharp or flat) sign between brackets, by using the question mark: e4 f e4.

Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
If you want to force the display of an accidental, you can append an exclamation mark to your note, like this: e4 f e4. des8 c4 | d!4 e You can also put the natural (or sharp or flat) sign between brackets, by using the question mark: e4 f e4. des8 c8 | d?4 e Jethro Sarah k Alawami (

a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ok. I know how to notate the sharps and flats but I might have missed in the big manual how to notate naturals and there are a lot of them in this piece. For anyone familiar with the chopin prelude in c minor right hand and possibly left hand there are a bunch of naturals. How do I notate them

Re: Page breaking behaviour

2013-03-01 Thread Nick Payne
On 02/03/13 01:00, Hilary Snaden wrote: Is there a way of making LilyPond insert a blank first page if the page breaker starts content on page 2? It's a major pain adding a page once the PDF has been created. This gives a blank first page: %= \header { } \pageBreak \markup \null

Re: spanners not showing up

2013-03-01 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Orm Finnendahl" To: Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 7:07 PM Subject: spanners not showing up Hi, sorry, if that has been discussed before. In the following example, there are two glissandos with an end arrow between each f and g, but only the second one i

Re: spanners not showing up

2013-03-01 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 1 mars 2013, at 20:07, Orm Finnendahl wrote: > My questions: > > 1.: Is there a direct way to enforce lilypond to always print those >signs and adjust its spacing accordingly (I'm aware that I could >use a hidden second voice with eigth notes to enforce more >horizontal space, b

spanners not showing up

2013-03-01 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi, sorry, if that has been discussed before. In the following example, there are two glissandos with an end arrow between each f and g, but only the second one is showing up. This is obviously due to lilypond's spacing decisions, not leaving enough space for the first gliss sign (see attached p

Re: what should I use for a string section score

2013-03-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hey thanks for the help. Ok so I just update the notes in the example wight he notes int eh exercise my teacher gave me and I could if I wanted to put a divici in each part if I wanted them to split? I don't think they will need to split that much I don't want to create a violin 2 staff just fo

Re: what should I use for a string section score

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Oops, and now with the example: global= { \time 4/4 \key c \major } violin = \new Voice \relative c'' { \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Violin 1 " c2 d e1 \bar "|." } viola = \new Voice \relative c' { \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Viola " \clef alto e2 d c1 \bar

Re: what should I use for a string section score

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
I'm still not 100% sure if I understand you fully. Is it correct that you found the template here: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/learning/string-quartet And that you could use it except for the wrong instruments? Then you have very little to do: just change the instrument nam

Re: How can I do this ...

2013-03-01 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 03/01/2013 06:17 PM, Guy Stalnaker wrote: Is it possible to modify the brace from a GrandStaff or the positioning of the brace for the PianoStaff version so that it is more like the B&H engraving? I know the example from the LP documentation is acceptable (the Peter's Edition of the Bach is en

How can I do this ...

2013-03-01 Thread Guy Stalnaker
For the section that talks about building a score from scratch: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/learning/building-a-score-from-scratch The author chose to construct a Piano Staff + single staff score. That results in three staves, with the top two "connected" by a brace and the bot

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread PMA
PMA wrote: Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Peter, An optimist believes that we are living in the best of all conceivable worlds. A pessimist _knows_ it. Yes! Got me wondering -- How might one fit the realist in here (without loss of pithitude)? I thought the same thing… What I came up with is t

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread PMA
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Peter, An optimist believes that we are living in the best of all conceivable worlds. A pessimist _knows_ it. Yes! Got me wondering -- How might one fit the realist in here (without loss of pithitude)? I thought the same thing… What I came up with is this: An

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.03.2013 17:05, schrieb PMA: bobr...@centrum.is wrote: An optimist believes that we are living in the best of all conceivable worlds. A pessimist _knows_ it. -- David Kastrup NICE! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, >>> An optimist believes that we are living in the best of all conceivable >>> worlds. A pessimist _knows_ it. > > Yes! Got me wondering -- How might one fit > the realist in here (without loss of pithitude)? I thought the same thing… What I came up with is this: An optimist believ

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread PMA
bobr...@centrum.is wrote: An optimist believes that we are living in the best of all conceivable worlds. A pessimist _knows_ it. -- David Kastrup NICE! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-03-01 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:47 AM, James Harkins wrote: > Zenaan Harkness freedbms.net> writes: > >> David, thank you so, so much! > > Oh, I thought enough bytes had been spilt on this subject already. > > IMO, this entire discussion is the result of misreading François's comment. > "It's working wel

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
>An optimist believes that we are living in the best of all conceivable >worlds. A pessimist _knows_ it. >-- >David Kastrup NICE! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Page breaking behaviour

2013-03-01 Thread Hilary Snaden
Is there a way of making LilyPond insert a blank first page if the page breaker starts content on page 2? It's a major pain adding a page once the PDF has been created. -- Hilary ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.

New t unebook set in Lilypond

2013-03-01 Thread Tim Slattery
A new four-shape (Sacred Harp style) tune book has been released in the last couple of weeks. Its name is Shenandoah Harmony (www.shenandoahharmony.com). I mention it here because every one of the 350-odd tunes in the book was newly engraved using Lilypond. There are lots of good things to say abou

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Urs Liska writes: > >>> I'm probably pissed a lot more than she was that this was likely a >>> smart choice for her to make. >>> >> That would be a wonderful story if it wasn't so sad :-( > > The best, most wonderful stories, are all sad. It's just that > Hollywood wi

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Urs Liska writes: >> I'm probably pissed a lot more than she was that this was likely a smart >> choice for her to make. >> > That would be a wonderful story if it wasn't so sad :-( The best, most wonderful stories, are all sad. It's just that Hollywood will find a way to pervert most beautiful

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread Urs Liska
Am 01.03.2013 12:27, schrieb David Kastrup: An ex of mine studied Romance Language and Literature with a minor in ... I'm probably pissed a lot more than she was that this was likely a smart choice for her to make. That would be a wonderful story if it wasn't so sad :-(

Re: OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Starting scene of Macbeth. But at any rate, I perceive a shift in >> educational systems to award degrees that have at best a weak >> correlation with being competent in the certified field of expertise. >> There is much stronger pressure on

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-03-01 Thread James Harkins
Zenaan Harkness freedbms.net> writes: > David, thank you so, so much! Oh, I thought enough bytes had been spilt on this subject already. IMO, this entire discussion is the result of misreading François's comment. "It's working well for me in Windows" somehow turned into "advocacy," but... to

OFF-TOPIC: Changing Education Paradigms [Re: Advocating non-free softwares]

2013-03-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes: > Starting scene of Macbeth. But at any rate, I perceive a shift in > educational systems to award degrees that have at best a weak > correlation with being competent in the certified field of expertise. > There is much stronger pressure on teachers and professors to have >

Re: Using \tupletSpan causing bad output

2013-03-01 Thread Colin Hall
Nick Payne writes: > On 01/03/13 16:33, Nick Payne wrote: >> See attached. >> >> \version "2.17.13" >> >> \relative c'' { >> \tupletSpan 8 \tuplet 3/2 { g8 fis e } >> } > > Forget about it. My bad. In the score where I encountered the output, I > forgot that I had changed from tuplets using si

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Zenaan Harkness writes: > On 2/27/13, David Kastrup wrote: >> Kieren MacMillan writes: >> >>> David, >>> Then it would seem that many of us have forgotten what brought LilyPond to them in the first place. >>> >>> No — some of us just have a sense of balance and tolerance. >> >> Sounds

Re: Advocating non-free softwares [WAS: Heads up about Frescobaldi & Ubuntu - Insert Menu Glitch]

2013-03-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 2/26/13, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > james writes: > >>> Could you please be more aware and more careful about advocating the use >>> of non-free operating systems? >> >> Does this mean we shouldn't mention that we use non-free operating >> systems? Or ask questions, comments about non-free oper