Texi2html requirement -- 1.80 is out

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hello, Texi2html 1.80 is out! Do you think it's all right to remove support for "makeinfo --html" in one week? I think we should support Texi2html 1.80 during all 2.12 series and not require Texi2html from CVS again before we start 2.13. Cheers, John _

Keep git-update-changelog.py?

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Do we want to keep buildscripts/git-update-changelog.py? This script was designed to update Savannah CVS with changes made in git.or.cz Git repository during the transition between the two revision systems. We no longer need this script for this purpose, but with a bit of hacking we could still u

Re: 2.12.1 out; announcements and normal stable

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 13:34 +, Ian Hulin a écrit : > Grahame, His name is Graham. > Can you, John or Han-Wen do > gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.announce? Some time has flown since 2.12.1, so I just did it. We are a bit confused, as 2.12 stable series begin while tasks with high responsab

Re: contributor/user split in docs

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 01 janvier 2009 à 21:26 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : > While I was working on the new website, I realized that the info I > was adding would work better as a manual rather than a few web > pages. Therefore, in Feb (after 2.13 starts), I'll be creating a > new manual: the Contributor's

Re: Patch review for fret diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 18:37 +, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > I haven't heard anything back on this patch, probably because I chose a bad > subject line. I'd appreciate if it could be reviewed. The recommended subject is "[PATCH] subject of the patch" regardless of the form of the patch (

SCons support in LilyPond

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, Have you any plan for maintaining Scons support in LilyPond? The Python code hasn't been updated to be compatible with Python 2.6/3.0, and it calls scripts in stepmake/bin or buildscripts that have been removed several years ago. If we have no interest in maintaining this, I propose to r

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 16:11 -0600, Jonathan Kulp a écrit : > It occurred to me today that it would be nice if Lilypond could use > \include to include files that are hosted on a website, the way html > pages use stylesheets. Something like this: > > \include "http://www.websiteaddress.c

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 23:26 +0100, Valentin Villenave a écrit : > Gosh, John was faster than me :) I was this time only, but I go back to studies next Tuesday. Cheers, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.g

Re: About Learning Manual

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/TRANSLATION;hb=lilypond/translation Then you can get the full changes patch by issuing git diff release/2.11.62-1 release/2.12.1-1 Append Documentation/user to the command above to restrict the patch to fi

Re: SCons support in LilyPond

2009-01-03 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 03 janvier 2009 à 20:54 +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : > I was hoping someone would see the beauty of scons and > junk our stepmake cruft ;-) I'm afraid it is too late to resurrect SCons, or too early if you prefer. I remember a number of packages used a so-called revolutionary prog

Re: contributor/user split in docs

2009-01-03 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 18:52 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : > I'll have the pdf on my > website for GOP, and after the first few weeks, this document > shouldn't be changing much, so the normal stable release will be > fine. IMHO a few weeks won't be enough for stabilizing the Guide, but

Re: About Learning Manual

2009-01-04 Thread John Mandereau
On 2009/01/04 14:08 +, Sawada, Yoshiki wrote: > Yes, it is my hope to provide LilyPond community with my translation. > I am not a professional for music or translation, so my Japanese > document is not so good. But I hope someone will brush it up. You may want to contact Yoshinobu Ishizaki w

Re: Keep git-update-changelog.py?

2009-01-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 20:54 -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : > Please junk Done, and did the same for metapost-*.make. John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

[PATCH] Re: Remarks about the building process

2009-01-05 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Han-Wen, Sorry for the quite unreasonable delay, but I hope I've sorted out GCC warnings mentioned in this thread. Le samedi 08 novembre 2008 à 16:59 -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : > +#define EPSNULL 1e-12 > this looks fishy. Why another EPS value? Joe? I apologize for this obviously wr

Re: SCons support in LilyPond

2009-01-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 00:39 +0100, John Mandereau a écrit : > I will include this removal in the patch that splits stuff in > buildscripts. I actually made two commits, because these two issues only intersect at builder.py and these commits are large enough. Cheers

Re: About Learning Manual

2009-01-05 Thread John Mandereau
ot;" commit 591dcd1740655062b541f2ca273147882bea3f9d Author: John Mandereau Date: Sat May 24 09:48:38 2008 +0200 Update TRANSLATION """ > I copyed > http://lilypond.sourcearchive.com/documentation/2.10.33-2ubuntu1/langdefs_8py-source.html > to buildscripts. Th

Re: Directory name of aux is invalid

2009-01-05 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 15:32 +, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > I have a git problem with your recent commit > c553fc2251b508befebd1dc297c4baa898463f34 to clean up the build scripts. > The reason is that aux is a reserved word in Windows, along with a few > others like com, lpt1, nul, prn, Lp

Re: release note translations

2009-01-08 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Till! Till Rettig a écrit : Was there already discussion on translating also the NEWS part of the documentation? It might not be really used by many people when 2.12 has become normality but for the moment it might be interesting since it also has a direct link from the news entry on lilypon

Re: Documentation/devel/

2009-01-09 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : Could I get this dir created and added to the build scripts? I'd like to move the stuff from web-gop/texinfo/contributing into there, so that Carl can see what's there and add to it. Done. BTW I'll look at integrating Texinfo docs in web-gop after Jan. 19th, as I'm

Re: 2.12.1 for cygwin?

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Frédéric Bron a écrit : Hi, is there a chance that we have a 2.12.1 release for cygwin? Using 2.10.33 on cygwin was great, I'd love to switch to 2.12.1. Have you already tried MinGW binary available on lilypond.org? You can run it from Cygwin if you set the PATH accordingly, and it is probably

Re: Documentation/devel/

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Graham, Graham Percival wrote: If anybody doesn't like it (and doesn't know/feel like fixing it), just revert that commit. Reverting commits is not good for the moral. It's best not to break compilation on master though, so I suggest you create a branch dev/gpercival if you like. That sa

Re: [frogs] my contribution: barCheckNumber to endSpanners

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 08:12:49AM +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: - I have mainly copied documentation from the Notation Manual. Would be better to enter the documentation only once because if the function changes, we have to change the doc. at two locations. De

Re: [frogs] my contribution: barCheckNumber to endSpanners

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : I propose something different. I think the current NR documentation is right, with a usage description in the section of the NR, and a short description from the docstring in the appendix that lists all music functions. The reason I use the Identifiers page is that it

Re: 2.12.1 for cygwin?

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Frédéric Bron a écrit : That's what I did before 2.10.33. But then, cygwin came with the right lilypond version and I preferred switching to cygwin. I have now installed mingw version of lilypond. However, who/how was lilypond added to cygwin? Bertalan Fodor used to do it when MinGW binaries di

Re: Git patch won't apply

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Neil Puttock a écrit : Hi Carl, 2009/1/10 Carl D. Sorensen : Any thoughts on what is wrong or how I can get this patch to apply? It applies OK using `git am'. BTW git-apply should be used for patches without authoring information, i.e. patches not made with git-format-patch. Cheers, Joh

Re: Git patch won't apply

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : fatal: git apply: bad git-diff - expected /dev/null on line 46 Patch failed at 0001. When you have resolved this problem run "git am --resolved". If you would prefer to skip this patch, instead run "git am --skip". To restore the original branch and stop patching run "g

Re: Documentation/devel/

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Reinhold, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : So, apparently, ./conftest can't find the libltdl.so.3 any more (which it was linked against), since the tools directory is no longer in LD_LIBRARY_PATH... It seems that while building (and of course also when running) all the tools, we still need the to

Re: Git patch won't apply

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : fatal: git apply: bad git-diff - expected /dev/null on line 46 Patch failed at 0001. When you have resolved this problem run "git am --resolved". If you would prefer to skip this patch, instead run "git am --skip". To restore the original branch and stop patching run "g

Re: Git patch won't apply

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : Are "diff --git a/... b/..." lines broken in the patch you actually tried to apply? They should not be broken, I guess. No, they're not broken. It's one line. Ugh, I'm almost short of ideas; which OS do you use to work with Git? Could a non-Linux system be confu

Re: Documentation/devel/

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : Am Samstag, 10. Januar 2009 18:49:40 schrieb John Mandereau: Have you tried installing libtool-ltdl-devel (or whatever this Fedora package is called on Ubuntu) system-wide? Yes, it is installed: lilyp...@server:~$ locate libltdl.so /usr/lib/libltdl.so /usr/lib

Re: `make all' fails

2009-01-10 Thread John Mandereau
Patrick McCarty a écrit : `make all' fails on current master. Is this because the new directory, Documentation/es/topdocs/, doesn't have a makefile yet? It had the makefile on my working tree, but I forgot adding it to Git :-/ make[3]: Entering directory `/home/pnorcks/git/lilypond/Document

Re: Patch for my bit of Frogs Task 1

2009-01-11 Thread John Mandereau
Ian Hulin a écrit : (Apolgoes to the list for this coming late, I'm sorting out my subscription via gmane) Hi Carl, Here's a patch for ny bit of the first Frogs Task, but I've got some questions. Hi Ian, I wouldn't have applied your patch as this is up to Carl, but could you resend it eit

Re: [frogs] my contribution: barCheckNumber to endSpanners

2009-01-11 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : I've only used @code{} because I saw it in the docs before I started. I think @var{} makes more sense. Anybody on -devel have a definitive answer to this question? The purpose of @var is marking variables (but not names of predefined variables), so let's use it as

Re: Japanese translation of Learning Manual

2009-01-11 Thread John Mandereau
Hello Yoshiki, Thanks for your quick work on the Learning Manual. Sawada, Yoshiki wrote: My patches look dirty because I changed something on scripts directries to do "make web" completely. It looks like you reverted some changes to get the documentation to compile. I've certainly left the

Re: FW: Artificial harmonics with sounding pitch in parenthesis

2009-01-12 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : Graham and Trevor, This mail below, from -user, shows why I think NR 5 and NR 6 should be combined into one chapter, something like Extending LilyPond. I rather agree with Trevor that these chapters should remain separate (in thread Learning Manual TOC missing subsu

Re: No apparent makefile dependency for make web on ly/music-functions-init.ly

2009-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : When I make changes to ly/music-functions-init.ly (which will affect Appendix B.14 of the Notation Reference), then run the documentation is not updated to reflect the changes in ly/music-functions-init.ly. Should I post this to bug? No, issues with makefiles shou

Re: No apparent makefile dependency for make web on ly/music-functions-init.ly

2009-01-14 Thread John Mandereau
Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : This sounds good to me. I'd much rather trigger recompilation more often than miss a change. Done: lilypond-book will be called if at least one file in ly/*.ly or scm/*.scm is newer than .texi output, which is enough to regenerate the Internals Reference and other

Re: website compilation

2009-01-16 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Matthieu, Matthieu Jacquot a écrit : File "../../scripts/lilypond-book.py", line 43, in import lilylib as ly ImportError: No module named lilylib make: *** [web-1] Error 2 ma...@gentoo ~/site/lilydoc $ Maybe I missed something, here's what I've done : I only pulled the tran

Re: Distribution updates and documentation woes

2009-01-16 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : After 2.12 I decided to do my small round checking of distributions again Super; I think it's a good idea to go on mentioning distros that provide latest stable on the download page, so I've added links for Fedora and Slackware. (should we add something

Re: Please fix: japanese doc compilation

2009-01-18 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Han-Wen, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : someone added a japanese translation of the docs, but after enabling it (so it is distributed), I get error (see below). Can someone fix this, or disable the translation? This is a blocking issue for releasing 2.12.2. I suggest not to enable it or revert

Re: Please fix: japanese doc compilation

2009-01-21 Thread John Mandereau
ns available earliest makes proofreading them by other people easier and speeds it up (except I couldn't reply as quickly as I'd like lately). Best, John Mandereau ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Please fix: japanese doc compilation

2009-01-23 Thread John Mandereau
Sawada a écrit : I'm sure. Perhaps, we should not include Japanese translation in the source codes until Texinfo supports Japanese. However, I want to make my translation available in the web. As it's possible to distribute Japanese translation at least in one compiled format, namely Texi2HTML

Re: Please fix: japanese doc compilation

2009-01-23 Thread John Mandereau
Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : Can you make it so doc and web take a different set of languages? For the tarball distribution, I still want to build the PDFs. I'm not sure I understand what you mean with 'doc' and 'web', I assume PDF and HTML, respectively. Japanese docs compilation will remain

Re: [PATCH] Re: Remarks about the building process

2009-01-23 Thread John Mandereau
Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : I can't remember the status of this change, but LGTM Thanks, applied. John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Please fix: japanese doc compilation

2009-01-28 Thread John Mandereau
Sawada a écrit : It is good that Texi2HTML can handle Japanese even if Texi2DVI cannot handle it. I think we should turn off texi2dvi for Japanese Documentation. Yes, this is what I did in the makefiles. I provided all files which were created by "make ISOLANG=ja new-lang". The command produ

Re: Japanese documentation templates

2009-01-28 Thread John Mandereau
Yoshiki Sawada wrote: The second patch in it is the new patch. Try it, please. If there are something to fix or do more, tell me. I should have replied earlier to other messages... I applied all changes that didn't add files related to the Notation Reference or Application Usage, and made a s

Re: CG texi2html command

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Graham, Graham Percival a écrit : How hard would it be to compile the CG with --split=sections instead of the current setting? I have the following in my compilation log on Jan 24th: make[3]: Entering directory `/home/lilydev/git/lily/master/Documentation/devel' cp -f contrib-guide.texi o

Re: starting 2.13 soon

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : Has anything urgent happened since 2.12.2 was released? I can't think of anything. Unless anybody complains within the next 48 hours, we'll switch to 2.13 and get started with all the major changes. What major changes are expected? Are there already significant chan

Re: starting 2.13 soon

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Sorry for double posting, I hit the key for sending too early. Graham Percival a écrit : Has anything urgent happened since 2.12.2 was released? Yes, the Japanese translation. I think it deserves a 2.12.3. I can't think of anything. What about posting an announcement on info-lilypond an

Re: starting 2.13 soon

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Yes, the Japanese translation. I think it deserves a 2.12.3. Good point. OK, we'll wait a week or so. That's perfect. Yes, that's totally my job. Umm... do you mean about 2.12.2, or about 2.13 when that happens? Talking from my little experience in announcing releases, it may be too la

Re: CG texi2html command

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Reinhold, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : Do I understand it correctly, that for the CG, you want e.g. all subsections of "1.1 Gettin the source code" in the same html file, all subsections of "1.2 Updating the source code" in another html file, etc.? Yes. The quick and dirty fix would be to

Re: starting 2.13 soon

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : IIRC there were already two patches that are waiting to be applied that were put off until 2.13. Trevor was talking about reshuffling the text crescendo commands. OK, this is probably enough to start 2.13 in one week. I just finished unpacking today (yeah, 3.5 wee

Re: Good luck, Valentin

2009-02-01 Thread John Mandereau
Jonathan Kulp a écrit : Francisco Vila wrote: Cross fingers, today is the premiere of Valentin's "the LilyPond Opera" in Montpellier. Success! The name is "Affaire étrangère"; how would you translate it, Valentin? :-) All right! Can't wait to hear how it goes. Good luck! IIRC it should

Re: many texi2html warnings for lilypond-snippets.texi

2009-02-10 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Werner, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : Compiling the documentation in current git with `make web', texi2html (CVS version from 2009-01-09) produces zillion warnings like this: *** Duplicate node found: Adding beams (in out-www/expressive-marks.texi l. 13 in @lydoctitle) *** Duplicate

Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-12 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : So, apart from not updating libtool here, I've now also fixed the target architecture, platform etc when building tools; makes much more sense. Oh, I've push a whole slew of fixes that will trigger a grand rebuild... I tried building GUB again yesterday.

Re: Patch for ja doc and two Questions

2009-02-13 Thread John Mandereau
Hello Yoshiki, Sawada wrote: Please use "0001-ja-doc.patch.org.gz" instead of "0001-ja-doc.patch.gz" in: http://irjb.s346.xrea.com/wiki/Patches+for+LilyPond+Document.html And change access modes from 755 to 644 following the instruction written in the page. How did you set the execution bit?

Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-13 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : I finally cooked-up a patch for that, it took a bit more work than I imagined. With latest GUB3 you can do LIBRESTRICT=open:stat bin/gub mingw::guile # or mingw::lilypond This will disallow libtool to read from or stat in /, so this should (from target/mingw/log

Re: Patch for ja doc and two Questions

2009-02-13 Thread John Mandereau
Sawada wrote: 1. Release of the new patch for ja doc I put it in the following page: http://irjb.s346.xrea.com/wiki/Patches+for+LilyPond+Document.html Please do not remove *.itely files for AU and Japanese messages catalog (i.e. Documentation/ja/user/i18n/ja). OK, I applied your patch, but ma

Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-14 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Tried a couple of things but could not reproduce this. What's the command you issued? Can you try removing the root and any librestrict/make packages: I get the error I reported when running rm -rf target make -f lilypond.make bootstrap Best, John ___

Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-15 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Interesting, that works for me. What's your python version? 2.5.1. I hope it's easy to install a newer Python in $HOME if it's needed to build GUB. Best, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org h

Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-15 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Does the attached patch help? It doesn't, I get exactly the same error :-( I hope the attached full output from the terminal may give a hint. What I don't get is that during first GUB invocation ("python bin/gub --platform=tools git"), a lot of packages in tools ar

Re: Patch for ja doc and two Questions

2009-02-15 Thread John Mandereau
Sawada a écrit : It does not work. But I fixed Lilypond-book.py as following: (line 939) if not langdefs.LANGDICT[document_language].enable_ly_identifier_l10n: ^^^ I guess the property name "enable_ly_identifier_l10n" should be changed to "disable_ly_identifier_l10n". I prefer to av

[PATCH] Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-18 Thread John Mandereau
John >From ad674166ea290a28a6865d576088fcdcc44ae47f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: John Mandereau Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:54:10 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Remove more duplicate libiberty.a files generated by binutils and gcc This fix completes a previous similar fix in commit fdfe393e51f670b97afe945bb920bd5b525e129d --- gu

[GUB3] How should Guile and Flex be built?

2009-02-18 Thread John Mandereau
After a successful bootstraping stage, I tried "make -f lilypond.make" and "make -f lilypond.make installers"; both failed with the attached log. In bootstraping, Flex and Guile are built for target "tools", which I find strange, whereas they are not built for each target platform. I also mis

Re: starting 2.13 soon

2009-02-22 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, Trevor Daniels a écrit : I'd go along with going straight to 2.13 too. AFAIK there are no serious outstanding issues with 2.12.2 that must be fixed, and I feel a little uncomfortable with some of the doc changes which will appear in the next release. I'd rather they went into 2.13. The

Re: [patch] Fwd: Strange output from convert-ly

2009-02-22 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Francisco, Francisco Vila a écrit : I forward this to -devel, if there is no inconvenient and nobody does it before, I could apply it next Tue or Wed. Right. The attached patch removes the debug print command. Could you remove the "print" command completely by pushing to Git directly? If

Re: starting 2.13 soon

2009-02-23 Thread John Mandereau
Trevor Daniels a écrit : No, it's OK. Just a mild preference. Not worth any trouble. I'd added a new section or two which caused a renumbering. It's not really a problem. Agreed; FWIW I backported a lot of doc changes in early 2.12 versions and IIRC nobody complained about renumbering. Oh yes

Re: Updates to the LM

2009-02-24 Thread John Mandereau
Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : Okay, but I think the snippets in input/lsr/ need to be updated to include this new file from input/new/, too. Otherwise lilypond-book will not be able to find it. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to re-generate input/lsr/ from input/new/, though... Use makelsr

Re: Please fix: release show stopppers

2009-02-27 Thread John Mandereau
Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : [+John who has been working on the japanese translation] On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Dist error: file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.13.0/Documentation/ja/user/i18n/ja Oops, this file should be added to Texi2html; I removed

Re: Updates to the LM

2009-02-28 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:18:32AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: I think I've muddled through this and updated input/lsr with my new snippet. As this was the first time I've used makelsr.py there were lots of mysterious warnings, but it seems to have converted and co

Re: [frogs] Re: patch for bug 729

2009-02-28 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Carl, Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : So, just for the record, I guess that the appropriate way to handle this would be to: 1. Search through input/lsr for relevant files. 2. Fix the snippet to make sure it compiles properly. 3. Copy the snippet to input/new 4. Delete the snippet from input/ls

Re: lilypond.pdf size?

2009-03-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, Valentin Villenave a écrit : 2009/3/3 Han-Wen Nienhuys : We have received some complaints about bandwidth usage at lilypond.org; in particular, the lilypond.pdf with its 13mb is causing a lot of bandwidth use. Could the doc frogs/meisters/gdpers look into a solution for this?

Re: AJAX-search field in the docs (Proof-of-concept)

2009-03-06 Thread John Mandereau
Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : A few days ago, I decided it's finally time to learn what all that hype about AJAX is about. What would be a better guinea pig than trying to implement a seach box in our docs??? Well -- it turned out incredibly easy. Here it is: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/ajax

Re: Clarifying and requests for documentation

2009-03-07 Thread John Mandereau
Dear Yoshiki, Sawada a écrit : Request 1. NR 1.1.3 Displaying pitches -> Clef In "See also", the reference to Internals Reference: "Clef" is translated to "音部記号" by ja.po file. But it should not be translated because it is a object name. There is no way to fix it right now, but

Re: Clarifying and requests for documentation

2009-03-07 Thread John Mandereau
Sawada a écrit : NR is very long to translate, especially 1.1 Pitches and 1.2 Rhythms. Therefore, my translation does not look like progressing so much. It will take a while to release the next patch. Quoting the Contribuors' Guide, section "3.6.2 Documentation translation details": "Files m

Re: AJAX-search field in the docs (Proof-of-concept)

2009-03-07 Thread John Mandereau
Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : Ah, so all I have to do is to add '*.idx' to the arguments of find and mass- link them, too. Sure. Hehe, I was hoping that someone would jump up enthusiastically and say "Sure, I'll take on the polishing" ;) Lol! I already have a bunch of work for the docu

Re: [GUB3] How should Guile and Flex be built?

2009-03-12 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : On wo, 2009-02-18 at 14:55 +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Hi John, How hard is it for you to install another python and try that? I compiled Python 2.6.1 and installed it in my home, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /home/lilydev. Does fedora carry py

Re: Clarifying and requests for documentation

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Hello Yoshiki, Sawada a écrit : Do you mean that you will make node names and section titles translated only by manual (that is, they are translated in the source files, but not by the po file)? Yes, that's it. If it is correct, I want new commands as following rather than it: @rinternalsn

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
2009/3/9 David Kastrup : make prefix=/usr/local/lilypond install-info-WWW make --no-builtin-rules -C Documentation/user install-info make[1]: Entering directory `/lisa/lilypond/Documentation/user' export LILYPOND_DATADIR= export PYTHONPATH=/lisa/lilypond/python/out:../../python/auxiliar:/lisa/li

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Good points, everything should be fixed. Improvements could be * add toplevel info and install-info targets that redirect to Documentation/user ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. * make info with images automagically (

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
John Mandereau a écrit : *WWW* targets must be called with out=www; these targets are purposely undocumented and not listed in "make help" because they are reserved for internal use or hacking. BTW we probably should enclose all WWW targets in ifeq($(out),www) blocks. Any though

Re: compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Trevor Daniels a écrit : Re your recent commits: shouldn't compile.itely and introduction.itely be in /devel rather than /user? I don't understand why you suggest to place introduction.itely in devel/. As for compile.itely, it's easier to put it in user/, because compilation of Texinfo docs i

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup a écrit : John Mandereau writes: ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. No, you didn't. Oops, I meant info-install. At least a freshly fetched lilypond copy has only (according to bash programmable completion) the targets in

Re: compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : I'm not clear about this, either. Actually, if anything introduction.itely is going to die entirely (as part of the web-gop stuff). All right. I can't work on GOP in the 4 coming weeks: I must work on translaed documentation compilation by translating node names in

Re: [GUB3] How should Guile and Flex be built?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Op donderdag 12-03-2009 om 10:43 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef John Mandereau: I compiled Python 2.6.1 and installed it in my home, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /home/lilydev. So, does that help? Not at all: I set PLATFORMS=linux-64 to avoid choking on

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup a écrit : I don't think that is standard usage. install-info would be the norm when available. Will fix this, but see below my request. make install bombs out, anyway: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/tmp/lilypond/stepmake/bin/install.py", line 78, in s

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-14 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup a écrit : John Mandereau writes: What does "grep NCSB config.make" (at top of the build tree) does say? NCSB_SOURCE_FILES = /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/c059036l.pfb /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/c059013l.pfb Your system probably misses two of the N

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-16 Thread John Mandereau
[forgot to CC to list] - Forwarded message -- From: John Mandereau Date: 2009/3/16 Subject: Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images? To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Hi Jan, 2009/3/16 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : > Your point about README/INSTALL is more difficult to tac

[PATCH] Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-17 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup wrote: So it would appear to be a problem that fc-match first finds the true type fonts installed by Canorus, and then this first match is subsequently thrown away by grep -v. So I think you need to figure out how to tell fc-match to prefer Type1 over TrueType, or how to make it li

Re: [PATCH] Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-18 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup a écrit : Ok, so the bad news: canorus was not in the package repository. So reinstallation is not trivial: I have to dig it up and then install it. And then it is likely that the version I'll be able to find will be quite different from what I had installed previously (and which w

Re: [PATCH] Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-18 Thread John Mandereau
2009/3/18 David Kastrup : > Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I don't think so.  AFAIK, we want *exactly* the URW versions, so this >> looks like a good alternative. > > When I wrote the above, my rationale was that the URW fonts are Century > Schoolbook font clones with identical font metrics.  If someon

Re: good news for my PhD

2009-03-19 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Valentin, Valentin Villenave a écrit : Josh is right, this sentence doesn't really make sense. We recently had a discussion about this very subject with John, who 's in the same situation as you are, and is merely forced to contribute to proprietary music software :-) If I'd like to develop

Re: good news for my PhD

2009-03-19 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Graham, Graham Percival a écrit : I've been offered a scholarship to do my PhD at the University of Glasgow, which I'm of course eagerly accepting. I'll be starting in Sep or Oct. Congatulations! 2) I might organize European vacations around other lilypond contributors, starting with a

Re: [PATCH] Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-19 Thread John Mandereau
Werner LEMBERG a écrit : Sorry, I don't understand the problem. Why will this lilypond fix break something in Canorus or vice versa? Canorus installs Truetype versions of some of those fonts, system-wide. The Lilypond configure command finds some of those truetype fonts via fc-match in

Re: [PATCH] Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-20 Thread John Mandereau
Werner LEMBERG a écrit : Looks good to me (if you use proper indentation :-). Applied. John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: install-2.13.html ?

2009-03-21 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Graham, Graham Percival a écrit : I just realized that I probably should have modified the download page, but I can't see any install-2.11.html or the like. What do we normally do for development versions? Patrick gave you the hint: just create a new download included page install-2.13.

Re: an LM update

2009-03-23 Thread John Mandereau
James E. Bailey a écrit : Incidentally, although the instructions in the Contributor's Guide are generally simple enough for even me to follow, apparently they're missing something because the git-format-patch HEAD doesn't work. If you have a recent Git, it should probably be git format-patch

Re: an LM update

2009-03-24 Thread John Mandereau
Hi James, James E. Bailey a écrit : Leave it to me to take something easy and make it difficult. So, I had a conflict. I thought I resolved it, but now tutorial.itely looks funny. I don't know how to get back to just having the normal files without any changes that I've made, and I don't know i

Re: odd configure error

2009-03-25 Thread John Mandereau
James E. Bailey a écrit : I'm having a configure error, and I don't know how to solve it. I get this: ERROR: Please install required programs: /Users/lilydev/bin/fontforge >= 20050624 (installed: .fontforge 20080927) What does 'which fontforge' and '`which fontforge` --version' say? Could yo

Re: an LM update

2009-03-25 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : Ick. Do we really need to ask casual contributors to spend 30 minutes reading how to use git? I think so, see below. Isn't there any faster way to give the instructions? Like - copy the conflicted file to a backup name - delete the file - do "git reset --hard" -

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