Re: [ilugd]: firewall package

2003-03-11 Thread vivek
ritesh_aladdin wrote: > Hiii every one i'd recommend yu change the compose settings in your "indiatimes" mail account to plain text instead of HTML. your 3 KB message would just have been 1 KB, and if this mail is sent to 1000+ users of ilugd, yu've unnecessarily wasted bandwidth of ilugd server.

Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread Tarun Dua
> In general, your comments exaggerate both the likelihood of hostile > responses and the effect they would have if they happen. That > approach is defeatism. Any proposal looks bad when judged in such an > unfriendly spirit. The point is that we should not judge them that > way. What good are t

[ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread arjun kapur
hi i am a linux beginer... i was so excited about red hat 8 bought myself orignal cds from linuxcentral. and the installed it. and walh after installing it mp3s and INTERNET(coz i have a motorola modem 56k internal) do not work.. after this kept on trying things...

[ilugd]: Multiboot system

2003-03-11 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
Please help me in installing a trouble free multiboot system. Attached file is in the same connection.   Regards, MalkiatDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online virdi.doc Description: virdi.doc

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread vivek
arjun kapur wrote: > hi > i am a linux beginer... i was so excited about red > hat 8 bought myself orignal cds from linuxcentral. and > the installed it. and walh after installing it > mp3s and INTERNET(coz i have a motorola modem 56k [snip] > i allways epected hi quality of stuff from them

Re: [ilugd]: Multiboot system

2003-03-11 Thread vivek
MALKIAT BENIPAL wrote: > Please help me in installing a trouble free multiboot system. > > Attached file is in the same connection. > > Regards, > > Malkiat have you ever read the guidelines? of not posting HTML and Attachments on the list? if not, read them http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PRO

Re: [ilugd]: Queries reg GNU/Linux

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
On Monday 10 March 2003 12:03 pm, you wrote: > Well, you should go on to Babbage and Lovelace Ada ... well, the infinite regress into the back will still re-emphasize supreet's point. knowledge in its smallest entity is never born in isolation. i strongly support the regime of patenting 'knowled

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister - a different point of view

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi suresh, thanks for your response. On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:36 pm, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >[snip] > > > > I agree completely. > > > > This original "open letter" is such a harebrained idea for god's sake. why! thank you!

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
thanks, supreet, for your response On Monday 10 March 2003 06:11 am, you wrote: > It may not please many, but I could not agree more to what tarun has > written. i doubt the excise will please many either. but the idea is not 'for someone's pleasure' it is for all the causes mentioned in the pr

Re: [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi tarun. thanks for your response again, to the open letter. > Right on the point. > 1) Stick to taxation on OEM bundled software alone and not on all FLOSS + > COTS software. why not all software? much simpler to implement. soon people will start bundling software in bundles, much like micr

[ilugd]: Fresh install (RH 8.0 win98 & win2k pro)

2003-03-11 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
Dear all,   This is in continuation to my earlier mail in connection with the above.   As we know that if we already have Windows installed as our primary OS on the first partition of the hard disk, it is possible that the remaining hard disk space (that we want to use for Linux root) is above 102

Re: [ilugd]: keep excise duty on OEM s/ware

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi supreet thanks for your response. On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:03 am, you wrote: > Using open source/ Free Software is a explicit choice. Taxing buying of > software is not going to help anybody. but using bundled software is not an explicit choice. it is zabardasti. how do you counter that?

[ilugd]: FTP

2003-03-11 Thread Aruna
Hi, I have a Red Hat Linux 7.1 server and two Windows clients connected to it. While doing FTP I am getting following error and connection gets disconnected. Can anybody suggest why this error is coming. Is it because of ISP or my server. Opening data connection IP: 64.164.13.157 PORT: 1179.

[ilugd]: Re:]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
tarun dua wants to know how taxing both COTS and FLOSS help FLOSS. simple. 1) by taxing FLOSS what they call piracy will suddenly become understood as a 'tax evasion' scheme, and hopefully the govt and the cliched 'vested interested' will crack down heavily on what they call 'piracy.' 2) thos

Re: [ilugd]: Multiboot system

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 04:18 pm, you wrote: > MALKIAT BENIPAL wrote: > > Please help me in installing a trouble free multiboot system. stop using *.doc and you've got rid of 95% of the trouble already! and whatever you do, please do not upload attachments to ilug-d. the 'd' in ilug-d also stand

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
hi sanjeev/ghane/gupta. thanks for your response. (what's your name, btw?). your response is quite insightful and made me learn and look from a new angle. On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:15 am, you wrote: > > Excise, Duties, and other taxation should be an instrument of fiscal > policy, and should not

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
> > hi arjun > > i'd recommend yu try out Mandrake instead of RedHat. [heavy snip] > and click the following to see how my mandrake 9.0 desktop looks. i'm > using gnome 2.0 as of now. > http://exain.net/vike/shots/?id=8 > > as for the support, atleast i'm there ;) vivek, this is commendable and

[ilugd]: Re:: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
thanks raj, for your response. > > One of the biggest arguments against LinuxLingam's proposal appears to > be that any tax collected from non-FLOSS sales will not be utilised > properly. > > OK, let it not be utilised properly. Let it go into the general tax > pool [snip]Whatever. > > The propos

[ilugd]: Re: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister - a different point of view

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
thank you, bnv raman, for your excellent response. my inputs follow: On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:36 pm, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: BNV Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [SNIP] As all software companies > > enjoy the **limited** benefits provided by the government in the form of > >

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread gurdeep
For your information Motorola has stopped supporting RH after 7.1. Consequently no driver of motorola modem after 7.1. Regards, Malkiat - Original Message - From: "arjun kapur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [ilugd]: hi pepole...

[ilugd]: Re:: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
tarun, you've done it again. another excellent response from you, quite vitriolic, quite emphatic. i like it. my responses follow On Sunday 16 March 2003 06:57 pm, Tarun Dua wrote: >Look what a mess GOI bureaucrats made with > regard to [heavy snip] okay . . . > Consider the following scenarios

[ilugd]: Re: [LIG] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
> Isn't that self-evident? If you have (say) an 8% excise on bundled > software, then the person who downloads Linux and OpenOffice and > bundles them into a computer doesn't pay any excise. After all, the > tax/excise would be on the price of the software, and if the price is > 0, so is the cor

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta
LinuxLingam wrote: > thanks for your response. (what's your name, btw?). Sanjeev Gupta, although the nickname ghane stuck many years back in college. > your response is quite insightful and made me learn and look > from a new angle. Thank you. I hang around with economists, bankers, and people

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread gurdeep
And... I had requested you that if you could send me a copy of it then I shall be very much thankful to you, but no reply received yet, however, as you have indicated that mandrake 9.1 is releasing shortly, then tell me the source of obtaining it. Malkiat > as far as the pcq linux is concerned

Re: [ilugd]: FTP

2003-03-11 Thread Shantanu Kumar
Some of the most common errors are usually the smallest ones. :-) Or maybe I am just presuming here. How is your firewall set on the (FTP) server? Try setting it to No-Firewall and then see if it works. Or maybe you need a longer timeout period then. Run 'setup' as root, set firewall to "No Fi

Re: [ilugd]: Front end (Help)

2003-03-11 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Arshad H. Siddiqui wrote: > > hi > > > > > I want to find out that what r the options available on Linux for > > Frontend with any backend database such as MySQL. MySQL has API for the following : PHP, Perl, ODBC, C, C++, Java, Python, TCL, Eiffel If you are talking about GUI interface

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread Shantanu Kumar
Hi Arjun, Sorry to hear your story. But things are not always the easy way. So take it in a stride. For an easy pick, try out KNOPPIX that LFY guys gave out in their Feb issue. You'll love it. I even ran my WinAmp3 (Windows version) using Wine (bundled along with KNOPPIX) and it runs just sooo

[ilugd]: A Plan for the ILUGD tees.

2003-03-11 Thread Shehjar Tikoo
Hey people, I just changed the image sent by another member of this list and here's the link. http://www11.brinkster.com/shehjartikoo/images/lug2.png I think first of all we need to arrive at a consesus about which design we should keep as an official design for the tees. We should ofcourse allo

[ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread Amit Goel
Hi Friends This email is for those people who want to learn linux. We are planning to give free training to Linux Enthusiasts. The training will be on using basic linux commands, using advanced utilities and tools, configuring linux apps like apache etc., bash scripting and troubleshooting, and a

Re: [ilugd]: Multiboot system

2003-03-11 Thread vivek
MALKIAT BENIPAL wrote: > sorry for sending the attachment as doc. Assuring you of not repetition > of such mistakes in future. > > Since myself is also a newbie to linux and I use RH 8.0. I just want to > use linux shell for cobol programming and with this view I wish to > install RH. Rest things

Re: [ilugd]: firewall package

2003-03-11 Thread Ambar Roy
Red hat 7.2 comes with squid that is a proxy server. If you don't find it installed, then install it from the red hat cds. The Linux kernel has a firewall that is built into it. In most cases, setting up RH as a firewall/gateway is a matter of configuring the Kernel firewall and squid. Search the

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread umesh anand
-- On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:05:02 Amit Goel wrote: >Hi Friends > >This email is for those people who want to learn linux. > >We are planning to give free training to Linux Enthusiasts. The training >will be on using basic linux commands, using advanced utilities and tools, >configuring linux ap

Re: [ilugd]: hi pepole...............

2003-03-11 Thread Raj Shekhar
--- arjun kapur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi > i am a linux beginer see http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/doing-things-howto.html for some help in getting started. This howto aims to help users to get acquainted with the tools available and have them up and running on their own. Instead of gi

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi Amit, > "Amit" == Amit Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Amit> Hi Friends This email is for those people who want to learn Amit> linux. Amit> We are planning to give free training to Linux Amit> Enthusiasts. The training will be on using basic linux Amit> commands, usin

Re: [ilugd]: A Plan for the ILUGD tees.

2003-03-11 Thread Abhishek Kumar
shehjar remember the golden rule " I will do it". cheers Abhishek From: Shehjar Tikoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd]: A Plan for the ILUGD tees. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:12:40 -0800 (PST) Hey people, I just changed the image sent by another

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread Arjun
Dear Amit, ME :-) I am a student of class 7. 011-25619489. Best regards, Arjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:11:46 PM Tuesday, March 11, 2003 °° Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 8:05

Re: [ilugd]: A Plan for the ILUGD tees.

2003-03-11 Thread Arjun
Dear Shehjar, There are two distinct motives of a logo : (a) to identify yourself with an organisation/group. (b) to let others know the value of the group. I guess, the logo should fit these criteria. Not very many people know about Linux (believe me, I found even engineering professor

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread LinuxLingam
dear sanjeev gupta, thank you once again for your insightful, balanced approach and insights. i am learning tremendously from your counter points and find them quite stimulating, since they come to me from 'another world' i know not of yet. understanding from you that taxation tries to be delibe

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta
LinuxLingam wrote: > understanding from you that taxation tries to be deliberately > detached from the factors i have been mentioning, and works solely on > the principle you mention of 'tax whatever the government can' > popular or unpopular, at the government's sole discretion, Yes. Remember,

Re: [LONG] [LIG] Re: [ilugd]: [draft] open letter to indian finance minister

2003-03-11 Thread Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta
LinuxLingam wrote: > why is software not yet taxed for excise? Sorry, my last reply talked about *customs* on Software. Software is not taxed for excise because of a very simple reason. Software is a service, not a product. Only products that are _produced_ may be taxed for excise. Writing sof

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread Rohit Gandhi
Hi Amit, I would be interested for this training, My details are as follows:- Rohit Gandhi, 27562888, [EMAIL PROTECTED] LAN Administrator. regards, Rohit. To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject heade

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hi Amit, Thank you for this type of planning. I would be interested for this training, My details are as follows:- Saurabh Khandelwal, 26222850, 26224899, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Administrator regards, Saurabh. --- Amit Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Friends > > This email is for t

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread rajkumar batra
Hi Amit, I would be interested for this training, My details are as follows:- Rajkumar Batra, 25630365 [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards, Rajkumar --- Amit Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Friends > > This email is for those people who want to learn > linux. > > We are planning to give free trai

[ilugd]: Linux Training

2003-03-11 Thread shahid syed
Dear Amit, Its actually a great idea. for people like me who want to learn linux but don't know where to start from. I'm a civil engineer by profession. My contact details are mentioned below. Wishes shahid cell no : 31021443 (Reliance) Address: AB 18 Shalimar Bagh New delhi 110088 __

[ilugd]: [survey] Open-source developer survey (fwd)

2003-03-11 Thread Kishore Bhargava
Hi! All, Seems like a useful survey to fill out. Helps in gathering facts and figures on actual opensource usage. Please fill out and if you need any more info, please contact Seema Arora directly. Email address given below: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:08:43

[ilugd]: Linux Training

2003-03-11 Thread Navneet Tyagi
Hi Amit, I am also intrested in the training . I am a beginner in Linux and i want to learn more and more in linux . My Details :Navneet Tyagi [EMAIL PROTECTED]# 9811690210  Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread Navneet Tyagi
Hi Amit, I am intrested in this Linux Training . I am a beginner in Linux .Navneet [EMAIL PROTECTED]# 9811690210  Amit Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi FriendsThis email is for those people who want to learn linux.We are planning to give free training to Linux Enthusiasts. The trainingwill be on

Re: [ilugd]: FTP

2003-03-11 Thread Kapil Sethi
Hi Aruna, > I have a Red Hat Linux 7.1 server and two Windows clients connected to it. > While doing FTP I am getting following error and connection gets > disconnected. Can anybody suggest why this error is coming. Is it because of > ISP or my server. Which means that you are using you linux m

Re: [ilugd]: Linux Training

2003-03-11 Thread Raj Mathur
Folks, Can you please reply to Amit directly about your participation instead of flooding the mailing list with `I Accept' messages? Thanks, -- Raju > "shahid" == shahid syed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: shahid> Dear Amit, Its actually a great idea. for people like me shahid> who wa

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread vakeel ahmad
I would like to learn linux. my contact details Vakeel Ahmad h-53, Abul Fazal Enclave Jamia Nagar New Delhi-25. ph no. 9811280636 --- Amit Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Friends > > This email is for those people who want to learn > linux. > > We are planning to give free training t

[ilugd]: TUGIndia Meeting

2003-03-11 Thread Amitabh Trehan
Hi, whats the news of this months meeting? date, venue? Amitabh Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

[ilugd]: What about TV Tuner

2003-03-11 Thread Amitabh Trehan
Hi, What are the experience and recommendations of the list about TV tuner card. I plan to buy one and use on gnu-linux. i believe one can also do conversion across medias i.e. VHS to CD etc. Amitabh Missed your favourite T

Re: [ilugd]: FREE LINUX Training

2003-03-11 Thread Amitabh Trehan
> > The training shall be conducted for two hours on > Sundays only and will > include theory with *** practical on-hand session > ***. The trainers will be > our professional programming team who are working on > international projects > but will be happy to devote some of their hours for > thi

Re: [ilugd]: Linux Training

2003-03-11 Thread Amit Goel
> Folks, > > Can you please reply to Amit directly about your participation instead > of flooding the mailing list with `I Accept' messages? I agree with this. And in fact it may not be a good idea to release your details like phone numbers etc. on mailing list. Enjoy ! -- Amit =

Re: [ilugd]: FTP

2003-03-11 Thread Naresh Narang
Hi there, This problem will NOT go away by doing PASV ftp. What is happenning is - - Client connects to server and authenticates. - Server responds and sends a port to client to connect on - which in this case is 1179 for data. - Client is not able to connect and times out. Reason: Th