Hi Phil,
If you are not interested in looking at videos to see the flow in action, the
complete documentation (with Helps you see on the display) are on IBM
Documentation.
The "Model" function can be found here:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=wizard-model-page
-Marna WALLE
z/O
This is why I like the way Linux handles things. I can have two
different Linux installs, as along as I have two different
partitions or disks on which to put those installs. And then the
user data is off in /home which can be yet another single or
group of partitions on one or more disks.
By
ut they do seem to go
out of their way to hide things.
Rex
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How about the last time that the menu
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Funny! Yes, that sounds like the same conversation I had with XXX
company and the product, not necessarily that number of X's but
could be :)
You're right
FWIW (perhaps nothing), IBM solved the upgrade problem ~30 years ago for VM by
separating the operating system nucleus (kernel) from the filesystem. That is,
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I have to disagree.
First lets talk about the migration guide an
s documented. Here, let me walk you through my process." His worked, but
it was nothing like the document.
Rex
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Kids can install, because basically one FMID, and if it doesn’t work, good luck.
How many FMID components make up core z/OS? Maybe if IBM made it one FMID you
could install like android.
I can use ISRFIND or ISRDDN, to find many thing
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I can't remember the last time a Windows/Linux inst
was nothing like the document.
Rex
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I can't remember the last time a Windows/Linux install failed.
gineer,
z/OS Support:
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So how come my kids can install apps and updates to their Windows and Mac
machines, and I can work
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People feel that z/OSMF is not meeting their needs. Looking at the positive
sideIf we wanted to get future z/OS newbies up to speed very quickly (1
month) What should IBM and us users be doing?
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So how come my kids can install apps and updates to their Windows and Mac
machines, and I can work with Linux with no formal training? For example, I
don't need to hunt down SYS3.MY2013.PARMLIB(PROG46),
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Personally I think z/OSMF is a big step in the wrong direction for IBM,
especially since they made it a the only choice. Before them it was also
pretty much just a single choice, but you had a lot of flexibility that you no
longer have with the newer method. There appears to be no good reason
A significant difference between z/OS and Windows environments is the
management philosophy in the z/OS environment that all the core code
that controls the system behavior and integrity can (and should) be
completely isolated from application and third-party code in data sets
that are protecte
Have them read Introduction To The New Mainframe. Very much describes
mainframes in DOS / Unix terms.
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 4:39 AM Jack Zukt wrote:
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> I can understand the windows and android analogy. And I do hate not being
> able to solve windows and android problems with the ease I solve
I can understand the windows and android analogy. And I do hate not being
able to solve windows and android problems with the ease I solve them on
z/OS.
Over the years colleagues from other areas have come to me for help with
problems on their turf, and I was able to help them because I knew how
th
Terri:
Right. That’s been my point from the start: while a noble effort, it’s not
going to get there without putting a LOT of work into changing the
underpinnings. This is trying to fix a foundation problem by spackling and
painting over it. Since it’s not even being discussed—folks seem to be c
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Jack Zukt wrote, in part:
>The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces mov
Jack Zukt wrote, in part:
>The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces move you
>away from the need to know what you are doing.
That’s the *goal*. Do you know what the Windows installer is doing? Android?
iOS? No you do not, beyond the high-level “putting in places” and “
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What chaps me the most is that it's not a complete solution. It is being
enhanced "on the fly", release-to-release, with customers as the testers.
The z/OSMF Configuration Guide at the V2R5 level is 400+ pages; the z/OSMF
Programming Guide at the V2R5 level is 1200+ pages! This is NOT a facility
t
Harris Randy wrote, in part:
>I do understand the need to atract younger people to the mainframe.
>What I don't understand is why IBM would take away a working method
>(SERVERPAC) and force those of us with grey to learn something new
>when we well know how to use what we already have in place. An
Beverly Caldwell wrote:
>If zosmf is the answer what the hell was the question?
I’m going to take that as a straight question. I assume the question was, “How
do we make z/OS easier to install and maintain for folks who don’t have any
grey hair yet?”
This is essentially the same question that l
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Terri Shaffer wrote, in part:
>This is the problem with z/OSMF and especially the new software
>instance install BS, its trying to make it idiot proof, but everyones
>SMS, volumes, catalogs, etc are all different and it doesn't work, or
>not easily.
This is the problem Windows had to overcome. Rem
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go looking when z/OSMF breaks.
Rex
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See you are missing the point.
If you have 117 lpars, of course you going to w
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See you are missing the point.
If you have 117 lpars, of course you going to work on making the process
actually work. Because every minute you save in that process is worth 2 hours.
The point is i
annelli
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It's a cultural, generational thing also. I'm surprised I havent been asked for
a cell phone app!
Bill
It's a cultural, generational thing also. I'm surprised I havent been asked for
a cell phone app!
Bill
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Just my $0.01 (not worth $0.02).
These developers who want/need access to z/OS and don't want to learn how to
work with z/OS, don't they learn new things all the time - new IDE's, different
operating systems (windows, ma
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Agreed completely with your last 2 statements. The RELFILES aren't used in the
running sy
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>I don't see how SMP/E can use the TLIBs to populate the DLIBs. What
>would it copy across to the DLIB if, like in the OP's case, he wants
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>I don't see how SMP/E can use the TLIBs to populate the DLIBs. What would it
>copy
>across to the DLIB if, like in the OP's case, he wants to ACCEPT the base code
>but there
>have been multiple PTFs installed to the TLIBs,
Are you conf
There seems to be some confusion in this thread about RELFILEs and SMPTLIB data
sets.
RELFILEs are used only during RECEIVE processing and are not used after that.
SMPTLIB data sets are created during RECEIVE processing and are used for both
APPLY and ACCEPT.
Neither are used by the running pr
I bow to your superior research skills. Agreed.
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Agreed
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That is why I asked Kurt Q. to jump in (in another post, not tracked below).
I *think* the DLIBs are built from the
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Allan,
Are you sure the RELFILES aren't needed for the ACCEPT? In my old brain, I'm
thinking that ACCEPT copies modules etc from the RELFILES.
Rex
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Perhaps that will solve the OP's problem.
Run the accept w/NOPURGE and then manually delete the RELFILES.
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Perhaps that will solve the OP's problem.
Run the accept w/NOPURGE and then manually delete the RELFILES.
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into the first DLIB
zones then change to PURGE to accept into the last DLIB.
Rex
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MPE MCS for DB2V12 FMIDs most likely contains ++DELETE statements for
> DB2V11 FMIDS.
>
> HTH,
>
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HTH,
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Bill,
Presuming your DB2 12 install will be going into its
ACCEPT until right before your next APPLY
cycle.
Rex
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Thinking forward
uary 02, 2018 10:16 AM
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On 2/1/2018 3:30 PM, Jousma, David wrote:
> The way I understand it, the option in
vices
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I think this matter has been settled already, but just t
I think this matter has been settled already, but just to add. You must have
enabled RMF (in IFAPRDxx) to use Resource Monitoring in z/OSMF. This is from
the z/OSMF Config book for Resource Monitoring:
"Enable the optional priced feature, Resource Measurement Facility (RMF), on
one of the
sys
Your welcome, I was sure they had a viable solution
Carmen
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Thanks everyone - the BMC support told me
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I suspect CMF may have a GPMSERVE like connector, Sorry I could not be more
help - BMC's technical support is generally pretty good, that would be my next
route.
they may still require the same security setup as the CFZCIM and GPMSERVE does
if they do
ssage -
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The resource plugin is enabled but it needs a connector to rmf - something cmf
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Have your installed the RMF
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