Your comments are worth much more than $.01. What these point-and-click
developers are rapidly forgetting is that all their gui is doing is
(predominantly) hiding the fact that the gui is just populating config files
somewhere on the back end. What happens when the gui breaks and they have no
idea where to look for the actual config information they need to tweak to fix
the problem? Oh yeah, reinstall the software.
Rex
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Lionel B. Dyck
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 8:22 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers
Just my $0.01 (not worth $0.02).
These developers who want/need access to z/OS and don't want to learn how to
work with z/OS, don't they learn new things all the time - new IDE's, different
operating systems (windows, macos, flavors of linux, unix, ...)? IMHO it is
easier to learn the TSO/ISPF interface than some of the distributed interfaces
(which change in small to large ways with upgrades).
Just my curmudgeonly opinion after struggling with some challenges with using
VSCode last weekend.
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Bill Giannelli
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2023 8:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers
So I hope you all dont mind a general question...........
We have the common struggle of dealing with non-mainframe developers accessing
z/OS (programs, jobs, DB2) and an attitude that we need to leave the mainframe.
In trying to leverage our z/OS environment, might ZOWE (and the required zOSMF)
provide a better transition and/or "access" to z/OS "processes"?
We do not have zOSMF and ZOWE implemented. I was wondering if it may be worth
while to do so.
I hope my question makes sense.
thanks
Bill
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