Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-17 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Ian, > You don’t need to be a member to send a patch. Changes need to go > through the guix-patches list and debugs. Please see `guix > (Contributing)' in the Guix manual[1] for the process to follow. Ok, I will send a patch to guix-patches then. > Since this is library code, other pac

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-16 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
Hi Ian, On Sun, Feb 16 2025, Ian Eure wrote: > Your purported authorization is irrelevant, as the name is within the > Guix project, not g-golf; and even if Guix had renamed the project, > such changes are explicitly permitted by g-golf’d LGPLv3 license. > > Since you seem to be more devoted to m

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-16 Thread Charlie McMackin
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 1:49 PM David Pirotte wrote: > > Hello Ian, > > > I'll submit a patch: please allow me to send the patch to this list, > > I not a guix-patches list member. > > Attached. Please review and apply asap. > > Thanks, > David Hi, As a guix user (I'm not a core dev nor have com

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-16 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello all, David Pirotte ezt írta (időpont: 2025. febr. 16., V, 20:49): > > Hello Ian, > > > I'll submit a patch: please allow me to send the patch to this list, > > I not a guix-patches list member. > > Attached. Please review and apply asap. I am sorry that we got to this point. I am sorry on

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-16 Thread Ian Eure
Hi David, David Pirotte writes: Hi Inan, Ultimately, this kind of decision is a judgement call on the part of the committers reviewing the patches. In this case, the concensus is clear that the Guix convention should be upheld. Sorry to hear that [1], but I do not authorize guix to pic

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-16 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Ian, > I'll submit a patch: please allow me to send the patch to this list, > I not a guix-patches list member. Attached. Please review and apply asap. Thanks, David From cd3e10080b68f11e1027f5bc9b1b11226393139b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: David Pirotte Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:45:08

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-16 Thread David Pirotte
Hi Inan, > Ultimately, this kind of decision is a judgement call on the part > of the committers reviewing the patches. In this case, the > concensus is clear that the Guix convention should be upheld. Sorry to hear that [1], but I do not authorize guix to pick a different name, for its g-gol

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-15 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi David, David Pirotte writes: > Hello Maxim, > >> I think our naming rules are reasonable. Interpreted language >> *libraries* are typically prefixed by the interpreter name ... > > Yes, but in this particular case, I am merely asking guix to accept to > make an exception, as expressed in my

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-15 Thread Ian Eure
Hi David, David Pirotte writes: Hello Ricardo, Is this such a problem, for guix, to make an exception? As you all understood by now, this is a bit of a sensitive subject for me. Ultimately, this kind of decision is a judgement call on the part of the committers reviewing the patches. In

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-15 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Maxim, > I think our naming rules are reasonable. Interpreted language > *libraries* are typically prefixed by the interpreter name ... Yes, but in this particular case, I am merely asking guix to accept to make an exception, as expressed in my answer to Ricardo. Thanks, David pgptdezIB

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-15 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Ricardo, > Frankly, this is absurd. What is absurd here, Ricardo, is the situation, that is, the guix reaction to my kindly expressed request that it would use the upstream name as its g-golf package name, post-fixed as required: g-golf-x.y.z[-guile-x.y] [ with additional p

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-15 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi David, David Pirotte writes: [...] >> As a first rule, the upstream name g-golf should be kept as is. > > There should be no other rule. I think our naming rules are reasonable. Interpreted language *libraries* are typically prefixed by the interpreter name, e.g. 'python-markdown', althoug

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-15 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
David Pirotte writes: >> it is not up to every author/committer to name things as they wish. > > Quite the opposite: it should not be up to the distro to rename > upstream projects as they wish. At the very least, the distro should > ask for an authorization. Frankly, this is absurd. The upstre

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-14 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Andreas, > we have packaging guidelines to make things predictable for users Imo, this is a counter argument: users do hear about GNU G-Golf, g-golf, through emails, #guile, #guix, #gtk, #introspection ... dedicated 'news' websites ... not because of guix. By renaming, guix actually turns

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-13 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi, Regarding what Andreas said about libraries, thanks for pointing out g-wrap. It should also be named guile-g-wrap in Guix, as its only ‘binary’ does not make it any less of a library. I'll make that change the next time I touch the repo, if nobody else bothers to. Kind regards, T G-R

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-13 Thread Andreas Enge
Hello David, Am Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 07:44:45PM -0300 schrieb David Pirotte: > In my initial message, I was merely asking to not apply the guile- > prefix rule to the g-golf package definition. > That I would not do this for other packages either was an answer to > iyzsong, as they were explaining

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-12 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Ian, > Changing this convention would require a very large amount of work > ... In my initial message, I was merely asking to not apply the guile- prefix rule to the g-golf package definition. That I would not do this for other packages either was an answer to iyzsong, as they were explai

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-11 Thread Ian Eure
Hi David, David Pirotte writes: In Guix program languages specified libraries are named with the language as prefix, eg: python-six, perl-dbix-simple, and guile-g-golf. Guix should not do this. ... Changing this convention would require a very large amount of work and disrupt things ever

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-11 Thread David Pirotte
Hello iyzsong, > Well, g-golf is deprecated by guile-g-golf here, so guile-g-golf is > the correct name.. Sorry, guile-g-golf can't be a correct name. it actually is an incorrect name 'by definition' - there is only one correct name, GNU G-Golf, abreviated in all distro (but guix) as g-golf x.y.z

Re: G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-10 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
David Pirotte writes: > prefixed by 'guile-', and i see this has been adopted, many thanks: > > https://packages.guix.gnu.org/search/?query=g-golf > => > g-golf 0.8.0-rc9 > > But I see it still has: > > guile-g-golf 0.8.0-rc9 Well, g-golf is deprecated by guile-g-golf her

G-Golf in Guix - G-Golf pkg(s) name(s)

2025-02-10 Thread David Pirotte
Hello Guix, Completing my previous sent email about G-Golf packages in Guix I did ask, a long time ago, that G-Golf pkg(s) name(s) would not be prefixed by 'guile-', and i see this has been adopted, many thanks: https://packages.guix.gnu.org/search/?query=g-golf =