Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
understand that for TLP a sponsor must be either Incubator PMC or the ASF Board. I am asking for advice on how we can go about that. Thanks Andrus -- Andrei (aka Andrus) Adamchik Cayenne Persistence Framework Lead Architect http://objectstyle.org/cayenne

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
to OJB... Yoav On 2/25/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi folks, We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here: http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal Brian McCallister v

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
We have the vibrant community part covered already, so now we are asking for incubation :-) Andrus On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:02 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: 2006/2/25, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I understand that for TLP a sponsor must be either Incubator PMC or the ASF

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-26 Thread Andrus Adamchik
y who helped us to start the proposal process and is doing a lot already to move it ahead is willing to be a mentor. But can he? And if currently the answer is no, why not? Andrus On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:22 AM, Leo Simons wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:04:15PM +0300, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Jim, On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Thanks for the proposal. It's best to submit the proposal itself to the list, and provide a URL as backup, but that's no problem. Yeah, I overlooked this requirement. Leo screen-scraped the text from Wiki and sent it to this list alre

[VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
s. * Core Developers: Andrus Adamchik (founder), Cris Daniluk, Michael Gentry, Tore Halset, Mike Kienenberger, Kevin Menard, Eric Schneider * Alignment: We propose Cayenne as a TLP within the ASF, sponsored by the Incubator TLP. * License: Cayenne is currently licensed under the Apach

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Mar 2, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: On 3/2/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to call a vote on our incubator proposal. There hasn't been any negative feedback so far, we found mentors, and we are eager to move ahead with the process. No n

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to call a vote on our incubator proposal. There hasn't been any negative feedback so far, we found mentors, and we are eager to move ahead with the process. Mhm, why is the Incubator PMC now the sponsor instead of t

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Mar 2, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/2/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has the DB project voted to accept the sponsorship? If DB is going to be the sponsor, then another vote by the Incubator PMC is unnecessary. Not AFAIK. I for one would be in favor of having t

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
rrent developments. But I think we can proceed with the DB PMC vote. Andrus On Mar 2, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Ted Husted wrote: On 3/2/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This (and what Jim said a few minutes ago) is consistent with my understanding of the current situation. I just made cha

Re: [VOTE] accept Cayenne into incubator

2006-03-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Geir, I don't think there is any contradiction between your post and what Mike was saying. If you look at the thread context, we are still talking about how to move with the incubation sponsorship. More to the point, I was the one who started the confusion with the Incubator PMC vote. As

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-06 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Thank you Tom, Brian, Jean and the DB PMC! This is very exciting news to us. So should we formally start the incubator acceptance vote on this list, or is this also something that is done privately between the Incubator PMC members? Andrus On Mar 6, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Thomas Dudziak wrot

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-06 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: Andrus, since Jim and I aren't reflected in the posted version of your proposal, it might be more manageable to put your proposal at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ . That'll make it easier to make any other changes the Incubator might like

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-08 Thread Andrus Adamchik
So let's go ahead. Looks like the Champion requirement is indeed optional, and we have all other roles covered now. Can someone start the Incubator PMC vote on Cayenne acceptance? Andrus On Mar 7, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Perfect! On Mar 6, 2006, at 3:06 PM, A

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-08 Thread Andrus Adamchik
we should clear it up in or docs, but the way I think of it is that there's an Apache Member or Officer who thinks it's a good idea for the project to come here. Seems like a good idea to have one. geir Andrus Adamchik wrote: So let's go ahead. Looks like the Champion require

Re: DB PMC sponsoring Cayenne in incubation

2006-03-08 Thread Andrus Adamchik
That's what I was kind of doing with this message. Waiting for reply now :-) On Mar 8, 2006, at 1:56 PM, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/8/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian and Jim are our mentors, so we have support of two Apache officers. Nobody officially

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: * [still in the early stages] JPA implementation (JSR-220) Are you aware of the Open JPA proposal, also looking for incubation? Is this something where perhaps you might want to adopt theirs, since yours is still early? See: http://wi

Re: [VOTE] [IP clearance] OpenDDR resources file donation to DeviceMap podling

2012-09-28 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Bertrand, OpenDDR combining forces with DeviceMap is great news! And having the resource file will make it very useful immediately. Regarding this vote.. While the original wurfl.xml was clearly open source, and I am going to cast a positive vote to accept it in DeviceMap, I am fairly cert

Re: [VOTE] [IP clearance] OpenDDR resources file donation to DeviceMap podling

2012-10-01 Thread Andrus Adamchik
, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: >> Hi Bertrand, >> >> OpenDDR combining forces with DeviceMap is great news! And having the >> resource file will make it very useful immediately. >> >> Regarding this vote.. While the original wurfl.xml was

Re: [VOTE] [IP clearance] OpenDDR resources file donation to DeviceMap podling

2012-10-01 Thread Andrus Adamchik
, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: >> Hi Bertrand, >> >> OpenDDR combining forces with DeviceMap is great news! And having the >> resource file will make it very useful immediately. >> >> Regarding this vote.. While the original wurfl.xml

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Syncope podling from Apache Incubator

2012-11-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 Looking forward to actually using Syncope soon. On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > a big +1 ! > > Excellent work, guys ! > > Le 11/2/12 10:00 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò a écrit : >> Hi all, >> this is a call for vote to graduate the Syncope podling from Apache >> Incubat

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OpenMeetings from Incubator

2012-12-03 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 >> On Dec 2, 2012 6:51 AM, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Incubation members, >>> >>> During incubation, OpenMeetings has : >>> * Produced 1 Release >>> * Added 5 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community >>> activities >>> * Cleared IP on all code >>> * Develop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation

2010-11-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were >> floated in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to >> develop Wave community and WIAB. G

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation

2010-11-26 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > I wouldn't stop the proposal, though. This can be identified as an > issue to be solved in Incubation - either by changing the name away > from 'Wave' or by transferring marks or even by determining that none > of both is required. Exactly,

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator

2010-11-29 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Dan Peterson wrote: > > [X] +1 Accept Wave for incubation > [ ] +0 Don't care > [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additi

Re: Wave Incubator Next Steps

2010-12-12 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Actually those were there before I started the process of gathering committer ids. None of the last week CLAs are recorded yet. Andrus On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:09 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Upayavira wrote: >> >> At the same time, folks that don't have ICLAs recorded yet should send >> them in.

Re: Wave Incubator Next Steps

2010-12-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I can't see why not forwarding it to Incubator PMC would hold root@ from creating the accounts (I mean, if it is such a big deal, root@ can always forward this message themselves and/or contact me to do it). Anyways, I just forwarded the original request. BTW, the original request was sent to r

Re: Account requests: Wave (Incubating) initial committers

2011-01-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
t. This is fixed now, and we can proceed with this account. Also I noticed that I had a typo in email address in my original account request, so here is the correct info on this account: purserj, jpurser: James Purser, jamesrpur...@gmail.com Thanks, Andrus On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Andru

Re: Account requests: Wave (Incubating) initial committers

2011-01-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > Hi root, Sorry meant to send it to priv...@i.a.o, not general. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: gene

Re: [Wave] editing incubator documents

2011-02-04 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Per Feb 2 message from Upayavira on wave-dev (1296637259.12852.1418516...@webmail.messagingengine.com), SVN auth grants are setup for all Wave committers. Not sure if the permissions are extended to the Incubator site? Andrus On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Michael MacFadden wrote: > David, > >

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 (binding) I have similar concerns as Niclas and a few other folks here, and estimate the risk of failure of this very visible podling as too high. I wasn't sure about my vote till the last moment. But in the current situation I don't see an alternative to ASF taking it and trying to do our b

Re: Project Proposal Question

2011-06-21 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Erich, There are no formal limitations on what an Apache software can do. While there is some historical bias towards certain types of projects and technologies here, it is not set in stone or anything. The area of use can be as broad or as specific as its creators decide. The only practical

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I've been in touch with Sebastian and Alexei and I am willing to champion the proposal. Just added myself to the corresponding section on the Wiki. I think we may still need to refine / update the proposal a bit before we can start the vote. But IMO we are very close to this point. The technolog

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Click as an Apache TLP

2009-10-18 Thread Andrus Adamchik
edehausen Will Glass-Husain Andrus Adamchik The proposed board resolution is included below. Kind regards Bob [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/nhhocnq3xufm3lkt [2]: http://markmail.org/message/pwgo2duk6oens7v6 --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution --- WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Greg, I am not on either side of the debate here, but Martijn is correct in pointing that the formal standard was applied to *all* podlings to date. There's more than a few projects in the ASF that were originally developed in the open, with strong communities. And in those cases that

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Greg Stein wrote: I mean, really... how many other projects that are 9.5 years old(*) do we expect to see arriving here? And of those, how many *started* with the ideas and precepts of the Apache Software Foundation? I suspect it will be zero, so wasting a lot of tim

Re: Hibernate migration strategy Was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] OpenMeetings

2009-11-19 Thread Andrus Adamchik
If you are going to do a rewrite, yet another option is to use Apache Cayenne, which has all the features of a modern ORM (plus a few more) and is also rather friendly to beginners: http://cayenne.apache.org/ Then maybe we can collaborate with OpenMeetings to make sure Cayenne works on Goo

Re: Hibernate migration strategy Was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] OpenMeetings

2009-11-19 Thread Andrus Adamchik
No. We froze the JPA compatibility effort started some time ago. Cayenne uses its own persistence API. Cheers, Andrus On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:08 PM, jean-frederic clere wrote: On 11/19/2009 05:49 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: If you are going to do a rewrite, yet another option is to use Apache

Re: [VOTE] release Apache VCL 2.1

2009-11-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Nov 23, 2009, at 5:49 PM, sebb wrote: There is only a "bz2" archive. Normally projects release archives in zip andr tar.gz format which are more commonly supported. IMO, this is a release blocker Just curious why you think this is a blocker? Each project knows better what formats are co

Re: document translation infrastructure?

2009-11-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Many projects are using cwiki.apache.org/confluence to maintain documentation. Confluence has version tracking with visual diff display. Probably also possible to setup an RSS feed to watch the pages that changed. So that should be all you need. Andrus On Nov 24, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Miles Li

Re: Subversion is now an official ASF project!

2010-02-19 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Congrats to Subversion. Glad to see you guys here. Ah, the good memories of the day when I discovered SVN and source control stopped being a pain. Keep up the good work! Andrus On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Hi all, The ASF Board just voted to approve the graduation of Sub

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Andrus Adamchik
While I second that in general, and I have argued (unsuccessfully) on the incubator list against arbitrary size constraints for graduating podlings, still in theory a PMC min size comes from the need to have a sustainable quorum to vote on releases. If it can get at least 3 people to vote,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation

2010-11-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave community and WIAB. Good luck and let me know if you need extra mentors (you already have 4, so I figured you are covered and didn't add m

[VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator

2011-11-07 Thread Andrus Adamchik
te is open for 72 hours. Andrus --- Andrus Adamchik Apache Cayenne ORM: http://cayenne.apache.org/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/andrus_a --- == OpenMeetings Project Proposal == == Abstract == Openmeetings is a web conferencing solution. == Proposal == Openmeetings provides

Re: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator

2011-11-08 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > [X] +1 Accept Openmeetings for incubation > [ ] +0 Don't care > [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incuba

[VOTE CLOSED] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator

2011-11-12 Thread Andrus Adamchik
vanum Srinivas +1 Ate Douma +1 Jean-Baptiste Onofré +1 Deepal Jayasinghe +1 Andrus Adamchik +1 Yegor Kozlov +1 Olivier Lamy +1 Mohammad Nour El-Din +1 Alan D. Cabrera +1 Jim Jagielski +1 [Wider community] Francis De Brabandere +1 Raffaele P. Guidi +1 Kalle Korhonen +1 Alexei Fedotov +1 Daniel Haisc

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache DeviceMap, a data repository and APIs for mobile device information

2011-12-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Big +1. With WURFL demise and disgraceful behavior of its founders, we certainly need a truly open source alternative. So what is the origin of OpenDDR database and how does it compare to WURFL? Cheers, Andrus On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC, > > T

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache DeviceMap, a data repository and APIs for mobile device information

2011-12-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Note that the proposal mentions OpenDDR donating their *source code* > only - as mentioned in the proposal, the "details" of the repository > data will be discussed once the podling starts. The repository is the most valuable piece here.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache DeviceMap, a data repository and APIs for mobile device information

2011-12-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
understand. Andrus On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: >> >> On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> >>> Note that the proposal mentions OpenDDR donating

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache DeviceMap, a data repository and APIs for mobile device information

2011-12-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Thanks. That answers it actually :-) On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: >> The question is essentially about any existing assets the project is >> planning to bring to Apache. While any

Re: [VOTE] DeviceMap to join the Apache incubator

2011-12-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC members (*), > > I've just reviewed the "[PROPOSAL] Apache DeviceMap..." thread and I > think all relevant issues have been adressed now. > > Let's cast your votes to accept DeviceMap as an incubating project, > propo

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Ross, > > Sorry, I didn't see a mail from Noel, but he's already the chair. > If this VOTE isn't successful, then he'll remain the chair. If > you want to explicitly call a VOTE for Noel, go ahead, but > this is the VOTE I am int

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
With Noel's email, this vote makes sense now. +1 to Jukka (binding) Cheers, Andrus On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > OK there has been enough discussion here. It's time to VOTE for a new IPMC > chair and it looks like the remaining folks (including m

Re: Your vote is casting Was: Openmeetings release approval by Incubator PMC Was: Incubation state transitions and stuck projects (Was: February report review)

2012-07-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Alexei, I am listed as a mentor in error at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openmeetings.html . I was the champion on the proposal. But even though I like the project, I knew I wouldn't be able to lead you through incubator and give all needed attention due to other commitments. So I i

Re: Your vote is casting Was: Openmeetings release approval by Incubator PMC Was: Incubation state transitions and stuck projects (Was: February report review)

2012-07-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: >> Hi Alexei, >> >> I am listed as a mentor in error at >> ht

Re: [VOTE] Approve Openmeetings (Incubating) release

2012-07-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 (binding) I notice you've done lots of ASF compliance-related work recently, going through 4 release candidates. Really appreciate your patience and resolve to get things right. Using Rat and scanning through the distro I couldn't find any new holes in the current iteration. Also just notice

Re: Blue Sky Distance Collaboration System_Proposal Draft

2007-08-27 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi there, I have a few high level technical questions about the scope of the system. I am just trying to understand what it is. * There is a quote 'BSDCS [...] changes the model from the "conference" to "collaboration"'. So is that video conferencing software that also allows playback of

Re: Blue Sky Distance Collaboration System_Proposal Draft

2007-08-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
x, CWPlayer for Win32) and MMA capable recorder. In this document(url is below) , there is also screenshot of our players: http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcj48f88_09k567f Andrus Adamchik wrote: Hi there, I have a few high level technical questions about the scope of the system. I am

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 9/6/07, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...So, any advice on this matter?... In my (totally non-lawyer) opinion, the cleanest way to change the JSPWiki code to the Apache License might be for the project to release an Apac

Re: Incubator Proposal: Pig

2007-09-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Sep 24, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Speaking just for myself, I find the name unusual but not offensive or even provocative. The fact that you wouldn't eat an animal doesn't mean you deny its existence... +1 I find it a fun name, and the one unlikely to infringe on the exi

Re: Java Jabber Server

2007-10-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
today I was looking for a Jabber server implemented entirely in Java, and the only results that I got was this: Not like the list you've quoted indicates scarcity in the XMPP server space ;-) Does anyone (besides me) think that we can build something better? As always having an Apache-lic

Re: [PROPOSAL] Shindig, an OpenSocial Container

2007-11-13 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 I have no explanation why the social networks are experiencing such growth these days, but it is certainly another fun area for developers :-) Andrus Brian McCallister wrote: Shindig Proposal -- = Abstract = Shindig will develop the container and backend server components for hosting O

Re: [DISCUSSION] BlueSky Proposal

2008-01-04 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jan 4, 2008, at 6:15 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 04 January 2008 11:22, Bozhong Lin wrote: If Apache could help this first Chinese-initiated project into incubation, this will stimulate lot of enthusiasms in talented Chinese developer community and many great Chinese-initiated pr

Re: [VOTE] Accept Bluesky Project into the Incubator

2008-01-06 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jan 5, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Bill Stoddard wrote: [x] +1 Accept BlueSky for incubation Andrus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Andrus Adamchik
:47 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On 2/4/08, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As long as you remember that you can't release or graduate without properly audited code with a paper trail to the original author of the code. You can release from the incubator before all IP

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-04 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: And to be quite frank, it feels very counterproductive to me to remove code from the project with full a priori intention of putting it back in. Are you sure you will get the appropriate ICLA's from all the authors that have contribu

Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal

2008-04-14 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one won't get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal following one of the existing templates and let the people on this list comment on it, and see if you can find mentors here. Andrus On Apr 14, 2008, at 5:21

Re: Duties of the PMC members

2008-05-05 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Dims, This looks good, so let me comment specifically on things that IMO need clarification. On May 5, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: #2: Create and maintain a charter that governs the PMC/project(s) That's probably obsolete. I recall seeing some TLP's having a charter, bu

Re: Duties of the PMC members

2008-05-06 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On May 6, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Roland Weber wrote: I believe that "bylaws" are required. At least the creation of bylaws is mentioned in the TLP resolutions I have read last year. I think that's obsolete. Cayenne graduated 1.5 years ago and has no bylaws. Of course I've also seen both terms

Re: JEUT Champion Recruitment

2008-05-15 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Alexis, I think it would really help if you started developing in the open using one of the free open source sites. This would provide the project history to a potential Champion, including access to the source code and general feel of whether you are really interested in building comm

Re: JEUT Champion Recruitment

2008-05-16 Thread Andrus Adamchik
reflection API or the XML files (orm.xml). Do you understand the goal of JEUT? 2008/5/15, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Alexis, I think it would really help if you started developing in the open using one of the free open source sites. This would provide the project histor

Re: JEUT Champion Recruitment

2008-05-16 Thread Andrus Adamchik
create a test class that extends a specific JEUT test class and all the work is done for you. The framework uses the annotations discovered via reflection API or the XML files (orm.xml). Do you understand the goal of JEUT? 2008/5/15, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Alexis

Re: JEUT Champion Recruitment

2008-05-20 Thread Andrus Adamchik
eally interested by the persistence layer. It would be a great pleasure to work on the Cayenne project. If you desire, we can speak about that by private email. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/5/16 Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: BTW, if that turns to be the case, yo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Click

2008-07-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1. In a crowded web frameworks space, I very much like Click's philosophy of trading off deeper abstractions for simplicity. Last time I used it, the impression was "nice and clean". Haven't used it lately (except for maintaining older projects). I hope it preserved that simplicity as th

Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?

2008-07-11 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Jim, It's no surprise that Maven chomps at the bit quite a bit regarding ASF policies, but values the "Apache brand" enough to tow the line. Did you mean Maven as "Maven repo deployed @Apache" or "Maven the PMC"? As Noel was talking specifically about the PMC. We can certainly ban Maven

Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?

2008-07-11 Thread Andrus Adamchik
rus On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jul 11, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Hi Jim, It's no surprise that Maven chomps at the bit quite a bit regarding ASF policies, but values the "Apache brand" enough to tow the line. Did you mean Maven as "Mav

Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?

2008-07-11 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 11, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: but I don't think ASF policies apply to the architecture decisions (good or bad) and development direction of any given project. They don't. Sorry if that wasn't clear :) Yep. That's where I was getting. You can ignore my last message the

Re: [VOTE] Accept Click for Incubation

2008-07-14 Thread Andrus Adamchik
itial Committers == The initial committers for the project should include: * Malcolm Edgar * Bob Schellink * Naoki Takezoe * Ahmed Mohombe * Henning Schmiedehausen * Will Glass-Husain * Ted Husted * Andrus Adamchik == Sponsors == === Champion === * Henning Schmiedeh

Re: [VOTE] Accept Click for Incubation

2008-07-19 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 18, 2008, at 8:59 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: There are no "project leads" at the ASF. All committers who become a member of the PMC shall have an equal say in the project. This can cause a great amount of friction when the project is perceived to be "owned" by a small subset

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Accept Click for Incubation

2008-07-21 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Note: Andrus and Will have requested to join the Incubator PMC but were no IPMC members at the time when they voted. I can vote one more time with my IPMC member hat on ;-) Not that we don't have enough votes. Andrus

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-27 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Malcolm, Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an ICLA or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance process. The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA, regardless of his future participation plans, but that's of course up to hi

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-28 Thread Andrus Adamchik
. But when I wrote a few Cayenne DB adapters that had been written by other people before, I am pretty sure I didn't steal anyone's original work. Andrus On Jul 28, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 27, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Is there existing code

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite code where the contributor can no

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
mes out. After all, that is where the lawyers lurk. Ciao Henning On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:42 -0400, Andrus Adamchik wrote: On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other contributor) contribute

Re: Multiple concerns reviewing BlueSky podling website

2008-07-31 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 31, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: - The BlueSky podling website have a download page, that is pointing to non-apache bluesky released artifacts. I think this is at least very confusing, as it can allude users to think this is a endorsed ASF release. Is this OK ? I don't see

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum

2008-12-18 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi JB, A very interesting problem you are addressing with AutoDeploy. JEE deployment tools that I've seen to date don't scale too well, so this area can use lots of improvement. I've developed a similar system for a big site of one of our customers, with the main goal to manage a mid- size

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum

2008-12-18 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Currently, there is not a lot of documentation (I need to produce one) but, anyway, quickly :), the deployment flow is : Step 0 : init VFS file manipulator ... So does it have some cluster deploy strategy (e.g. minimizing downtime

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum

2008-12-18 Thread Andrus Adamchik
ocess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net On Thu 18/12/08 11:38, "Andrus Adamchik" and...@objectstyle.org wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Currently, there is not a lot of documentation (I need to produce one) but, anyway,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Scrum

2008-12-18 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Yeah, I am curious how practical it is to use Puppet to deploy JEE apps? Maybe for managing the server config files, but the actual app deployment??? (sorry, that's getting a bit OT, but I think this discussion is still useful in mapping the AutoDeploy problem domain, and hence explaining

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Maestro

2008-12-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Dec 24, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: What have happened to previous tradition of coming up with good obscure names?? SpretFlinter (zero hits) Crentacto (one hit) Bristasse (116 hits) Not to make JB's job any harder, but IMO these examples are just silly. BTW, what traditio

Re: [Kalumet] Preparing source code

2009-02-03 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi JB, Procedural things can get really slow here at times due to the volunteer nature of the ASF. Don't get discouraged by that... For now you'll need to ping people to look at the proposal, and find two more mentors. I'd love to be one of them, but I am afraid I will be AWOL most of the

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Apache Click

2009-02-03 Thread Andrus Adamchik
) and no other votes: Andrus Adamchik +1 Bob Schellink +1 Naoki Takezoe +1 Malcolm Edgar +1 Ricardo Lecheta +1 Vote thread: http://click.markmail.org/search/#query:+page:1+mid:3t5lfsusnizffj4t+state:results Distribution can be found here: http://people.apache.org/~sabob/click/click/2.0

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Apache Click

2009-02-05 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1. On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Bob Schellink wrote: New snapshots are available and contains the incubation disclaimer. Thanks to Kevan for picking this up. The disclaimer can be found in the distribution root while for maven artifacts the disclaimer can be found under META-INF. New dist

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Apache Click

2009-02-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
replaced. We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release. The vote on the click-dev mailing list resulted in 5 +1 votes (4 binding) and no other votes: Andrus Adamchik +1 Bob Schellink +1 Naoki Takezoe +1 Malcolm Edgar +1 Ricardo Lecheta +1 Vote thread

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Apache Click

2009-02-10 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Bob Schellink wrote: Can we get fired for trying to release so many times? Hehe , no :-) Thanks Henning for catching those things. Andrus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubato

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Apache Click - third try

2009-02-18 Thread Andrus Adamchik
+1 On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Bob Schellink wrote: New snapshots are available with the following changes: # build.properties has new property to switch off the hibernate dependency # build.xml will only build the hibernate package if hibernate is available on the build path # The Co

Re: If you're not interested in Java and MySQL Cluster, you can stop reading now...

2009-03-19 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Interesting. This is the first time I see a high-level Java design that is a diversion from DB independence. So how much performance improvement do you see by nixing JDBC? Andrus On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: I'm working (day job!) on a Java interface to the MySQL Clu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Additional concern, it does not appear that the mentors are planning to be on the PMC. Why not? Why is this a concern? Mentors volunteer to do mentoring to ensure the project is viable and understands the Apache way, not necessarily to develop code. If you trace the existing Apache project

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-23 Thread Andrus Adamchik
3 is the minimal number that is needed for a formal acceptance. So I see no problem with it. Click has been a successful open source project done the Apache way before entering Apache, so I think it is definitely ready to graduate now. While a possibility of a vote deadlock exists, it does

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hmm.. 3 PMC members was always ok. Did it change recently? I agree on a tangential point though (and accept some blame myself as a mentor) that the project should've done more active recruiting of committers with the potential to join the PMC. In fact there seem to be good candidates, and t

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