Hi Yoav,

We've actually looked at the DB option (and are still open to it as a second choice). The reasoning behind the TLP proposal is that Cayenne has quite some history as an open source project and we have a number of subprojects that may not fit into the DB community scope as there is no database involved.

Cayenne is all these things:

* An object relational mapping framework (ORM). This part similar in functionality to OJB. * A framework for remote objects persistence (user API similar to ORM, but no DB on the backend). I am not even sure how to classify that ... persistence through web services (??)
* UI tools (ORM tools and tools for object to UI binding)
* [still in the early stages] JPA implementation (JSR-220) - this is another ORM API, but IMO within Apache it has most synergy with Geronimo.

In fact we've already presented our proposal to the DB community, and the consensus seems to be that TLP is a better option:

http://www.mail-archive.com/general@db.apache.org/msg00247.html

Andrus


On Feb 25, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:

Hola,
db.apache.org might be a better place for Cayenne than a TLP, no?
It's similar to OJB...

Yoav

On 2/25/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi folks,

We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to
join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here:

http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal

Brian McCallister volunteered to help us as a mentor. And now we need
a Sponsor. I understand that for TLP a sponsor must be either
Incubator PMC or the ASF Board. I am asking for advice on how we can
go about that.

Thanks
Andrus



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Andrei (aka Andrus) Adamchik
Cayenne Persistence Framework
Lead Architect
http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/



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