Hi Jim, On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Thanks for the proposal. It's best to submit the proposal itself to the list, and provide a URL as backup, but that's no problem.
Yeah, I overlooked this requirement. Leo screen-scraped the text from Wiki and sent it to this list already.
IMO, this looks like a very worthwhile proposal, but I would consider that this may likely be best under db first, with movement to TLP sometime after that, at least at this stage. I am also curious about the comparison between this and Torque, and if you have any thoughts about that, regarding any potential impacts or conflicts within the ASF space.
Can't compare us with Torque, as I am unfamiliar with it. From what I know we are closer to OJB and JDO rather than Torque (but I can be wrong on that). I don't see a conflict with either of the three. We just provide another way of doing object persistence, kind of like Struts, Tapestry and MyFaces provide three different ways to implement Java web layer.
We viewed DB as one logical possibility (so we first presented a proposal to DB PMC). But there are arguments from both Cayenne and DB communities that make us think that TLP is a better option:
1. Umbrella argument [that I don't fully understand; I guess it has something to do with the history of other TLPs?]
2. Cayenne is a mature community-based project that has demonstrated self-management abilities that we would like to preserve.
3. We have a number of subprojects that evolved around Cayenne core that are not about database interaction - there is a Swing widget binding framework (and a GUI tool), there is an ability to do object persistence and distributed object management via web services (aka remote object persistence feature), etc. In other words Cayenne is not DB centric; what's common in all the features above is that all those are object [management|binding|persistence] services centered around a single object model.
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