Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

Hi! The trick is that "if errorlevel 42" does not only trigger if the errorlevel is EXACTLY 42, but if it is AT LEAST 42: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/if As you already found out, you could also use == for equality. Of course, FreeCOM only

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

> On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:43:29PM -0400, Roger wrote: >> On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 02:50:11PM -0400, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user >> wrote: >> >> >>> On May 7, 2025, at 2:17 PM, Roger via Freedos-user >>> wrote: >>> >>> Forgot mentioning, when booting FreeDOS-1.4 from USB flash media, >>> do

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

> On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 02:50:11PM -0400, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user > wrote: > > >> On May 7, 2025, at 2:17 PM, Roger via Freedos-user >> wrote: >> >> Forgot mentioning, when booting FreeDOS-1.4 from USB flash media, >> doesn't appear for having a method for detecting when booting from b

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

> On May 7, 2025, at 2:17 PM, Roger via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Forgot mentioning, when booting FreeDOS-1.4 from USB flash media, > doesn't appear for having a method for detecting when booting from between > Qemu or a bare metal PC, as hardware configuration (eg. autoexec.bat) between > th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

Forgot mentioning, when booting FreeDOS-1.4 from USB flash media, doesn't appear for having a method for detecting when booting from between Qemu or a bare metal PC, as hardware configuration (eg. autoexec.bat) between the two hardware schemes would likely be different. Roger __

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

> On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 10:17:10AM +0200, Alex via Freedos-user wrote: >Hello, I wanted to ask if there's a way to install full FreeDOS OS on a >USB stick, not the FullUSB live version, but the full operating system. Works very well, using Qemu on Linux hosts and when booting from a bare metal P

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

> On May 7, 2025, at 4:17 AM, Alex via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Hello, I wanted to ask if there's a way to install full FreeDOS OS on a USB > stick, not the FullUSB live version, but the full operating system. Message contains instructions on how too easily convert the FullUSB Install imag

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 09:20, Alex via Freedos-user wrote: > > Hello, I wanted to ask if there's a way to install full FreeDOS OS on a USB > stick, not the FullUSB live version, but the full operating system. Yes. I wrote about it here: https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/26/dos_distraction_free

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-1.4 Networking ODI Driver Setup Corrections

There is a better version for E1000ODI.COM, if you quickly google search PRONWARE.EXE, it has v5.07 from 2014, I'm also have a copy on my website www.packetdriverdos.net, you even find not broken links to reliable sources for netware files.Happy to hear to someone using networking on bare metal

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-1.4 Networking ODI Driver Setup Corrections

Roger, I am glad that you had success! Earlier this year I had tried the ODI driver method for a Realtek 8168 NIC unsuccessfully (the computer was a Zimaboard 832). However, I went the NDIS drivers route successfully. It was a bit of an adventure finding everything that was needed, but perseveran

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 Mouse

I apologize for my mistake. Lugupidamisega Madis - Siim Kull Mu veebikodu: http://madis-siim-kull.format.com/ telf: +37255597153 On Sun, Apr 27, 2025, 20:03 Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 3:11 AM madis-siim kull via Freedos-u

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 Mouse problem

Isn't this the same question you asked in the other email discussion thread? Why start a new thread? [**or see below] My reply on the other discussion thread was: : This sounds like a hardware problem. FreeDOS 1.4 uses the same kernel : as FreeDOS 1.3, so this can't be a kernel regression. You sa

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 Mouse

On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 7:12 PM Norby Droid via Freedos-user wrote: > > I have noticed an issue with the mouse in FreeDOS 1.4 that wasn't > there in 1.3. > > Whenever I start FreeDOS with a mouse installed and I use programs, > the program acts as if there is a mouse button held down, and it > pre

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 Mouse

On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 3:11 AM madis-siim kull via Freedos-user wrote: > > Is there any way to install Estonian key map on FreeDos 1 4 and make system > understand Estonian spesal characters (õ ä ö ü) > This is a new topic, so you should start a new discussion in the email list so that others

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 Mouse

Is there any way to install Estonian key map on FreeDos 1 4 and make system understand Estonian spesal characters (õ ä ö ü) On Sun, Apr 27, 2025, 09:05 Louis Santillan via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Do you have this issue with other DOSes? > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 Mouse

Do you have this issue with other DOSes? On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 5:12 PM Norby Droid via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I have noticed an issue with the mouse in FreeDOS 1.4 that wasn't there in > 1.3. > > Whenever I start FreeDOS with a mouse installed and I use prog

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.4 PCMCIA CF Card (ATACARD) Support

On 4/16/2025 7:07 AM, Markus Schneider via Freedos-user wrote: Hi all, hope I'm using this channel in the right way, first time :-) I'm trying to setup an Compaq Elite LTE Laptop (486-DX2-75, 16MB) with Freedos and everything is working great after some time, even got WIN3.1 running in standa

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.4 PCMCIA CF Card (ATACARD) Support

I have the same Compaq laptop, but sadly is not working anymore, but looking the motherboard it has 2 chips for pcmcia, the VLSI VL82C146, a quick google search shows me that the AST ASCENTIA 900N uses the same chip, here more details https://minuszerodegrees.net/manuals/AST/Bulletins/Technical%2

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.4 PCMCIA CF Card (ATACARD) Support

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:07:58 +0200, Markus Schneider via Freedos-user wrote: > [...] a CF Card via PCMCIA adapter acting as additional hard disk [...] The way it worked for me was that the card needs to be inserted when you boot, and if you swap the card then the change will not be detected. I di

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 - why 2 discs, and not one?

Hello Jerome, Thank you very much. That sheds a lot of light on valid points and considerations that go beyond my personal use cases. Best regards, Michał W dniu 9.04.2025 o 13:23, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user pisze: On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:14 AM, Michał Dec via Freedos-user wrote: Hel

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 - why 2 discs, and not one?

Hi Eric, > On Apr 9, 2025, at 7:52 AM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Hello :-) > >> I've counted that the two images of FreeDOS 1.4, live and bonus, amount to >> 355567 sectors. This is still within the realm of possibility to fit it all >> on one CD, as 80 minute CDs can hold 360

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 - why 2 discs, and not one?

Hello :-) I've counted that the two images of FreeDOS 1.4, live and bonus, amount to 355567 sectors. This is still within the realm of possibility to fit it all on one CD, as 80 minute CDs can hold 360k sectors. What influenced this decision to make 2 CDs and not one when one? Looking at the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4 - why 2 discs, and not one?

> On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:14 AM, Michał Dec via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I've counted that the two images of FreeDOS 1.4, live and bonus, amount to > 355567 sectors. This is still within the realm of possibility to fit it all > on one CD, as 80 minute CDs can hold 360k se

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.4-GM

Excellent! Thanks, Jerome! Best Regards, Bill Allen On Tue, Apr 1, 2025, 06:56 Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > The FreeDOS 1.4 “Gold Master” is now available for download at: > > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/fi

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

While nobody could say why they update it so often, (e.g. to restrict downloaders or as part of the regular "product enhancement" cycle) YouTube does in fact change regularly enough that I have to update yt-dlp about once every few months because of some change that breaks downloading capability

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

Makes me wonder if those changes are chrome related. YouTube decides there is a broken security element in chrome, makes a change, which then impacts YouTube at some level. To be sure they want You to encounter the ads. still the view later nature of YouTube means rather a few are downloading

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

On Saturday, March 22nd, 2025 at 6:01 PM, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: > The biggest problem is that youtube is constantly changing their site to foil > downloaders. The program referred to in this thread youtube-dl has an older > version as mentioned, that runs on python 2. something, a

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

Hi, I think other people are exaggerating a little bit with YouTube changing all the time with the explicit purpose of thwarting downloaders and here's my 2 cents. First, I highly doubt that Google gives YouTube enough money that YouTube developers have the leisure of having enough things don

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

Yt-dlp seems quite solid, there are several ports of the program. In theory it is considered to be a replacement for YouTube dl, which indeed is no longer being updated. On Sat, 22 Mar 2025, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: The biggest problem is that youtube is constantly changing their

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

The biggest problem is that youtube is constantly changing their site to foil downloaders.  The program referred to in this thread youtube-dl has an older version as mentioned, that runs on python 2. something, and that version no longer works, because it hasn't been updated in a very long time

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

Nice to learn that a yt-dlp port for DOS might be possible. What some do not keep in mind is that one can just get audio only at YouTube, with the program allowing you to simply download a converted edition of that audio. Might make for a good financial investment for me. Paying a developer t

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

More consolus than answer, YouTube has demented advertising methods. Not as if I were learning much watching cleaning videos. Most videos are also poorly edited, wasting much viewing time. Or again, maybe it was just the types of videos I was watching? Youtube-dl, and more recently yt-dlp, pac

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and ports of Youtube downloading programs?

Someone on our Facebook group asked this question about a year ago, asking is there was a DOS program to download YouTube videos so you could watch them later. The answer was No, sorry. But that was a year ago, maybe someone here knows of something since then. On Sat, Mar 22, 2025, 12:11 AM Kare

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS adventures - latest project

I worked out getting the BonusCD apps updated via the FDIMPLES config mode. Fully updated the system to 1.4rc3 now! Best Regards, Bill Allen On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:21 PM Bill Allen wrote: > Jim, > I have not tried sound yet on the Zimaboard, but I do not see a specific > local sound output

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS adventures - latest project

Jim, I have not tried sound yet on the Zimaboard, but I do not see a specific local sound output on it so I would probably have to try USB speakers (maybe bluetooth? this sounds like a new experiment for me!). The VNC is through an external IP KVM device that acts as the VNC server, so I am sure th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS adventures - latest project

That's a pretty cool project! I like these small systems that can run FreeDOS. I have a Pocket'386 which does the job for me, but the Zimaboard looks very interesting too. Since it's running over a network (VNC) I'm curious what the performance is like for things like games. I'm assuming you don't

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a Dell Inspiron 1150: safe-mode only?

Thank you. On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 10:22:41PM -0400, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user wrote: > JEMM has been updated since FreeDOS 1.3 was released. > > I recommend updating that program. Or, try using the monthly interim test > build of FreeDOS. The interim test build contains the latest version

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a Dell Inspiron 1150: safe-mode only?

JEMM has been updated since FreeDOS 1.3 was released. I recommend updating that program. Or, try using the monthly interim test build of FreeDOS. The interim test build contains the latest versions we have of the programs provided with the OS. > On Aug 21, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Nicholas Bernhard

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a Dell Inspiron 1150: safe-mode only?

Hi! I recently pulled a Dell Inspiron 1150 from my local landfill. This is a Windows XP-era laptop... Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz, and I installed 2 GB of RAM. I was able to install FreeDOS... but... https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html Well, if

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2670, Issue 2

> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 14:49:21 -0400 > From: jer...@shidel.net > > Have you considered using EtherDFS or NetDrive? > > https://etherdfs.sourceforge.net/ > https://www.brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP_NetDrive.html > I'

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On at 2024-07-01 20:12 +, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: On 7/1/2024 7:56 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: The WIN31SUPPORT define is still not enabled/defined by default I believe. Some discussion in [7]. At some point I manually built a kernel including it. I also contributed

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On at 2024-07-01 21:56 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi ECM, thanks for the explanations! If I understand https://github.com/FDOS/kernel/issues/50 correctly, Windows 386enh support is not part of the automated builds yet because there originally were limitations regarding which com

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi, > On Jul 1, 2024, at 4:15 PM, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user > wrote: > >  >> On 7/1/2024 7:46 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: >> >> Hi Jerome, >> I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the use

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

> On Jul 1, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > >  > Hi Jerome, > >>> I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to >>> "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user >>> run FDISK interactively and then returns to the installer. >> It

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On 7/1/2024 7:56 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: The WIN31SUPPORT define is still not enabled/defined by default I believe. Some discussion in [7]. At some point I manually built a kernel including it. I also contributed a workaround to allow the gcc build to succeed with WIN31SUPPORT

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On 7/1/2024 7:46 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi Jerome, I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user run FDISK interactively and then returns to the installer. It could be a shell to dos instea

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi ECM, thanks for the explanations! If I understand https://github.com/FDOS/kernel/issues/50 correctly, Windows 386enh support is not part of the automated builds yet because there originally were limitations regarding which compilers are supported, which have since been resolved? The secon

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi Jerome, I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user run FDISK interactively and then returns to the installer. It only auto partitions in normal mode when no partitions exist. If partitions exist and ar

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

PPS: I do not suggest specific UEFI-BIOS-CSM projects. Anybody? I went searching for some recently, and the only ones I found were pcem (no longer maintained it seems, although there was an update a few months ago, just no new release), and of course, the original pcXT rom from IBM which is

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On at 2024-07-01 13:26 -0400, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user wrote: Hi ECM, On Jul 1, 2024, at 12:51 PM, E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user wrote: On at 2024-06-30 23:32 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof of concept demo of

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi ECM, > On Jul 1, 2024, at 12:51 PM, E. C. Masloch via Freedos-user > wrote: > > On at 2024-06-30 23:32 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > >> Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof >> of concept demo of a Windows 386enh install on FreeDOS kernel. >> Kernel ve

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On at 2024-06-30 23:32 +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof of concept demo of a Windows 386enh install on FreeDOS kernel. Kernel version 2044 exists since 2023-12-02. Since then, we basically have been waiting for people to TE

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 at 16:43, Alvah Whealton via Freedos-user wrote: > > Excellent, Liam, and thanks greatly for posting. I would try keeping up with > all that you write but there are an insufficient number of hours in a day. Why thank you! I can tell you that it frequently feels like there are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Excellent, Liam, and thanks greatly for posting. I would try keeping up with all that you write but there are an insufficient number of hours in a day. Al Whealton On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 8:23 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 23

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 23:34, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > > Interesting that MS Word for DOS looks a bit like EDIT, but > with char style highlighting and a graphical preview :-D Well, yes. They are both Common User Access apps. MS Word for DOS up to v5.0 used its own UI, but 5.5 switche

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

> On Jun 30, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > >  > Hi Jim, > > *Installer* > >> the installer tries to do everything for you; the user should >> just be able to respond to prompts. > > I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to > "auto-fdisk & au

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi Jim, *Installer* the installer tries to do everything for you; the user should just be able to respond to prompts. I basically wonder about something like a third choice, next to "auto-fdisk & auto-format" and "exit to DOS", which lets the user run FDISK interactively and then returns to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Jim Hall wrote: > > Join us today for the VCF Live Stream, hosted by Jeff Brace from the > > Vintage Computer Federation. Jerome Shidel wrote: > I was tied up (figuratively). So, I missed the first couple minutes. > > I was thinking it was going to be another interview. > > I just found it a littl

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Eric Auer wrote: [..] > Interesting that MS Word for DOS looks a bit like EDIT, but > with char style highlighting and a graphical preview :-D Yes, it's probably not surprising that the company that made MS-DOS Edit and Word for DOS would make them look a bit similar. I used Microsoft QuickC in th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi Jim, > On Jun 29, 2024, at 5:03 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Join us today for the VCF Live Stream, hosted by Jeff Brace from the > Vintage Computer Federation. > I was tied up (figuratively). So, I missed the first couple minutes. I was thinking it was going to be another

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Eric Auer wrote: > Hi Jim and VCF, thank you for sharing the stream on > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peIYEAM9pk > > Of course, I have some thoughts about it: > > Earlier in the video, when you present some spreadsheets > and word processors, there is a point where you show the > Windows 3

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Eric Auer wrote: [..] > Unfortunately, the rolling monthly release apparently > uses very OLD FreeDOS core components: > > A 2021 kernel with a copyright message saying 1995-2012 > and a 2021 shell version 0.85a :-( [...] > Remember that Jeremy first posted in 2021-07-26 about his proof > of concep

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Eric, > On Jun 30, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user > wrote: > […] > > Unfortunately, the rolling monthly release apparently > uses very OLD FreeDOS core components: > > A 2021 kernel with a copyright message saying 1995-2012 > and a 2021 shell version 0.85a :-( What? Those are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi Jim and VCF, thank you for sharing the stream on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peIYEAM9pk Of course, I have some thoughts about it: Earlier in the video, when you present some spreadsheets and word processors, there is a point where you show the Windows 3 about screen and it mentions

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Hi and a belated happy 30th birthday FreeDOS! If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? As Jim mentioned accessibility (although in another context) it would indeed be a good question whether for example the audio could be provided as a non-https download

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On 2024-06-30 00:37, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? It could be downloaded with a browser using an Invidious link (either the audio, the video, or both) and later reproduced using a media player. Has mpla

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

no. It is supposed to be a question allowing the sharing of how those using freedos could have enjoyed this event. On Sat, 29 Jun 2024, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 6/29/2024 3:37 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Just wondering. If using freedos exclusively, what tools

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

On 6/29/2024 3:37 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Just wondering. If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? Again, simply curious. Best, Karen Was this supposed to be a trick question? Ralf ___

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS live stream event with VCF

Just wondering. If using freedos exclusively, what tools would allow you to attend this event? Again, simply curious. Best, Karen On Sat, 29 Jun 2024, Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote: Join us today for the VCF Live Stream, hosted by Jeff Brace from the Vintage Computer Federation. I'm plan

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wiki is temporary offline

A hint, microsoft employees are mad, and they're trying to make a living! On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 11:38 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I just realized that someone started spamming our wiki yesterday. So I've > taken that down until I can clean it out

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 2595, Issue 3

> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:56:58 -0500 > From: Jim Hall > > I think you have experienced what is known as "AI Hallucination" where > the AI just makes stuff up. "I asked ELIZA about this in-depth technical question and here's what she babbled, can you tell me if it's anything approaching conven

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

Hi Norby, > Thanks to jerome I believe the issue was tryin to install over the old > copy since i fprmated the drive before the install this time and it > worked. I probably should have tried that before sendin out the long > message. My gremlin there. Glad it worked now. > I cannot use vbox s

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

Thanks to jerome I believe the issue was tryin to install over the old copy since i fprmated the drive before the install this time and it worked. I probably should have tried that before sendin out the long message. My gremlin there. I cannot use vbox since my pc cannot run it, unless there is

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/FDT2404-LiveCD.zip worked for me (in QEMU). I have chosen 'Install to hard disk' from the main menu. Do you install in english? Have you verified the file with https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dis

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

The install I have wanted to try (in connectix vpc) is the test FreeDOS FDT2404-Live CD.zip from ibiblio. The test fails on both options with or without sources added. TestDisk is where it will always stop. ‘Util\testdisk’ package. A reboot may help. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 01:49 Jerome Shidel vi

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

Hi, > On Apr 6, 2024, at 8:40 PM, Norby Droid via Freedos-user > wrote: > > One issue I find alot when tryin to install FreeDos is that it would go most > of the way through the install then without any reason and no explanation as > to why, it just stops and says there is a problem so reboo

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS webpage - where can I see more News?

I will need to add a link or button to show more news. Right now, it just shows the latest six news items. The FreeDOS news items are actually stored in the SourceForge News system, and the website pulls from the RSS feed to generate the news items for the front page. Here's the link to our news i

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2024 calendar coming soon

Jim Hall wrote: [..] >>> The anniversary is coming up in June 2024. I'm trying to finish a >>> 2024 calendar that you can buy (at low cost, if you want it in print) >>> or download (if you just want the images). I'm trying to finish >>> grading a bunch of university classes that I teach, so I haven

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2024 calendar coming soon

If the calendar is a bunch of engineers in bathing suits, then I'll take 10. On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:02 AM Gabriele Barbone via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Merry Christmas guys and Happy 2024 > > Il dom 17 dic 2023, 20:43 Jim Hall via Freedos-user < > freedos-use

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2024 calendar coming soon

Merry Christmas guys and Happy 2024 Il dom 17 dic 2023, 20:43 Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> ha scritto: > (I'm re-sharing this item from my virtual get-together "followup" > email so it gets seen by others) > > > The anniversary is coming up in June 2024. I'm try

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

My understanding is that there are two major differences between POP and IMAP. The first is that POP only allows one-way communication (downloading from the server to the client) so there is no synchronization mechanism. If you download the same e-mail to multiple devices, each one can be set

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

Hi Jose, > PS: The older POP3 only allowed access to the inbox, > while IMAP also allows access to your other mail folders, > so I expect most mail providers to support IMAP now. I thought that folders were a client-side convention, and mail (POP3, IMAP) servers kept all incoming

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS or DOS based mail clients

This is not strictly a DOS remark; it applies to any e-mail but I think it can appear here. Eric Auer said: > PS: The older POP3 only allowed access to the inbox, > while IMAP also allows access to your other mail folders, > so I expect most mail providers to support IMAP now. I thoug

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

Karen also asked about this on the lynx-dev mailing list. They reported that panix.com tested squirrelmail and roundcube in lynx and found that neither works because certain controls in both apps are proprietary controls not standard web controls. I don't do email on DOS, but if i did, i would

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

Hi mart, Eric and all. Sharing more details, thanks for all these ideas. Because there is no direct inclusive tool for me with the combination of adaptive technology I use in Linux, I ssh telnet from my DOS computer into shellworld using the recently updated sshdos program. Further, I use ssh f

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

As I physically cannot use Linux outside of the shell services I use, that door is possible, just not from my desktop. I do have a question though. Does your configuration give you total access to email contents, folders sent mail, contact lists and the like? I may need to pay someone to do th

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

Hi, On 22/11/2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > Does anybody here have experience with using a squirrelmail > or roundcoube webmail in links? Might need less java script > compared to gmail to use those, and one could forward the > gmail mail to a mail provider with squirrelmail or roundcu

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

Hi! As it seems that sshdos (ssh) and the links text mode browser for DOS support current security protocols and https: Does anybody here have experience with using a squirrelmail or roundcoube webmail in links? Might need less java script compared to gmail to use those, and one could forward

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

I'm using Mutt right now, a command-line email client for Linux. On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 07:01:11PM -0600, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > Google intends removing all access to basic HTML, and is forci

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos, or dos based mail clients?

Hi, On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: > > Google intends removing all access to basic HTML, and is forcing the issue > as of today. Did they state a reason? Maintenance burden? Or just better security? Because email was always plain text and pretty insecure.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

Another option is to use a gemini proxy. For example: C:\>lynx https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/geminispace.info/search%3Ffreedos This is an indirect way to access gemini://geminispace.info/search?freedos ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

Thanks, Paul: gemini://geminispace.info/search?freedos There is a search "button" in top where you can enter term you care about. Here I have given the term "Freedos" to search. I'm using amfora in a terminal window. -- My old iiNet address will die 2 October! Instead, send to my new addres

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

Le sam., 26 août 2023 03:52:41 -0400 Bryan Kilgallin via Freedos-user a écrit > I have installed amfora in a Ubuntu PC. And I briefly looked in the > CAPCOM aggregator. > > But I feel lost! Please advise a newbie on browsing Gemini content. > -- gemini://geminispace.info/sear

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

Thanks, Paul: I recently learn of the Gemini protocol. I apologise for slowness getting-around-to my e-Mail Inbox contents. Gemini is a group of technologies similar to the ones that lie behind your familiar web browser. Using Gemini, you can explore an online collection of written document

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

Le Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:52:05 -0400 Michał Dec a écrit > Hello Paul, > > You could've said "Gopher with TLS". Well, I did not known much Gopher (that seems to have come down in popularity at the end of the nineties). I think Gemini is about middle ground between Gopher and HTML.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

Hello Paul, You could've said "Gopher with TLS". Best regards, Michał W dniu 19.08.2023 o 09:11, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user pisze: I recently learn of the Gemini protocol. What is the Gemini protocol? "1.1.1 The dense, jargony answer for geeks in a hurry Gemini is an application-level

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol

On 19/08/2023 09:11, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user wrote: I am writing this here, because I believe the low-resource needed to run a Gemini Browser is appropriate for FreeDOS. Gemini is an invention that shoehorns a gopher-like protocol into TLS. TLS is everything but "low ressource". For a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

On 6/13/2023 11:08 AM, Jose Senna wrote: Vacek Nules said: I'd like to ask the community's opinion and possible endorsements to get the UTC to accept the [Forint] symbol Is the Forint still in use in Hungary ? Yes, it is still the official currency of Hungary. They apparently didn't swit

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

On 6/13/2023 1:42 AM, EdzUp wrote: Hi,    To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any barriers to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this seems like a reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there. -Ed Much less of a good idea (not referring to the issu

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS code page Unicode compatibility

Hi, To be fair this seems like a very good idea mainly because any barriers to FreeDOS use and acceptance should be removed and this seems like a reasonably easy thing to do as it already is there. -Ed On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 22:58 Vacek Nules, wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm Vacek Nules, a softw

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