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> From: "Bill Dennis via EV"
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla
>There's an article in slate.com today about some of the reasons why people
>dislike Tesla, and Musk.
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>https:
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From: "Bill Dennis via EV"
To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'"
Cc: "Bill Dennis"
Sent: 29-May-22 17:04:16
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla
There's an article in slate.com today about some of the reasons why people
dislike Tesla, a
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On Sunday, May 29, 2022, 6:32 PM, Michael A. Radtke via EV
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David,
>Not to break in on a semi-private conversation here, but I wonder what
>end- of-life looks like for an EV.
Well, for my Jet ElecraVan, end of
There's an article in slate.com today about some of the reasons why people
dislike Tesla, and Musk.
https://slate.com/technology/2022/05/elon-musk-tesla-twitter-fables.html
Bill
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David,
>Not to break in on a semi-private conversation here, but I wonder what
>end- of-life looks like for an EV.
Well, for my Jet ElecraVan, end of life is lead acid is obsolete and
while there were only a few produced, it is not considered a classic.
(Yet, I'm tinkering with moving to lithium.
I own and have owned several dozen EVs, mostly Nissan Leafs, but also
RAV4EV (the 2002 NiMH variant) and a few electric trucks, mostly the 1994
S10 US Electricar conversion, which I still have 2 of.
Recently bought a cheap 2013 Tesla Model S.
Cheap because I never spend much on cars and I like fixi
I spent 7 years designing sensors and actuators for the aftermarket
business of Standard Motor Products. A successful manufacturing and
reselling auto part supplier since the 1920's. Still going strong,
aggregating the demand for lower volume parts to supply your local auto
parts store. There is st
On 29 May 2022 at 11:54, Michael A. Radtke via EV wrote:
> I use the [Imiev] nearly every day and depend on it. I also realize that
> it is approaching end of life and there is nothing on the market that,
> in my opinion, does the job that I need it to do.
Not to break in on a semi-private con
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Original Message
Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 20:47:43 + (UTC)
From: paul dove via EV
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: paul dove , EV List Lackey
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla
I am game! I have a 2012 I-MiEV that does about 30 miles. I b
On 28 May 2022 at 22:47, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I think the truth is nobody here can make an EV as reliable or as cheaply than
> the lowly Nissan Leaf.
I thought about that when I read this piece:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/27/new-zealand-grandmother-
creates-her-own-ele
I think the truth is nobody here can make an EV as reliable or as cheaply than
the lowly Nissan Leaf. 107 Miles range and under 14k in 2016 as the Chevy Bolt
came out. I got the last one on the lot and didn't care weather it had the
color I wanted. It had cruise control, heated seats and air co
I am game! I have a 2012 I-MiEV that does about 30 miles. I bought some Samsung
SDI cells that are 94Ah original batteries were 50Ah. They are just slightly
taller than the Yuasa batteries used originally so I believe they will fit with
no mods. I had one before that had the battery replaced by
It's been interesting to watch this thread, and think about how posts here
on the EV list have changed.
The EVDL has been around for over 30 years now. Even as recently as 2008-
10, we were all about conversions. Posts flew by on motor brush advance,
Lovejoy couplers, adapter plates, controlle
They're in my contact list. Don't remember how I originally got them.
Although when I just googled Tesla it came up
with the local SC telephone number.
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 10:04 AM Neal, Gary via EV
wrote:
> Barry,
>
> Interesting...how do you get the phone number for your local SC? I
> u
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Cc: Barry Oppenheim
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla
I just call the local number for my SC. Usually an option in the menu for the
service.
Occasionally a tech or service center employee has texted/called me before the
appointment to get additional information. In that case
I just call the local number for my SC. Usually an option in the menu for
the service.
Occasionally a tech or service center employee has texted/called me before
the appointment to get additional information. In that case I've
texted/called back to that number.
Barry
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 9:
Of Barry Oppenheim via EV
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 8:39 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: Barry Oppenheim ; Ken Olum
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla
We've had three Teslas beginning in 2013. Two different service centers.
I wish I could say that I've never
We've had three Teslas beginning in 2013. Two different service centers.
I wish I could say that I've never needed to use the service centers. But
as an early adopter I was willing to accept some of the "quirks" of the
car.
The majority of issues have been minor and mostly plug and play repairs
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 11:21:16 + (UTC)
From: paul dove
I get real tired of people who don't own a Tesla saying Tesla has a
service problem.
I originated this thread. I do have a Tesla, and that's the only reason
I know about their service issues. For very standard things it is
I own a Tesla and my service has been fine.Remote service is great, they
arrived as expected and fixed all my issues.
Been to the service center and had no problems. Considering how quickly the
California market is saturating with Tesla's I feel they have provided enough
resources to maintain
Not to mention Tesla is the only Manufacturer with thei model.
All the rest go through Dealers.
On Monday, May 23, 2022, 12:24:56 PM CDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV
wrote:
Well, I don’t have a Tesla, but I own a piece of the company. And people
beyond non-owners raise the service question
My Tesla service experience (albeit limited since not much has gone wrong) has
also been great.
But the empty barrel makes the most noise - all you hear about are the bad.
Happy customers don’t necessarily speak up. Like me in the thread until now :)
Charles
> On May 23, 2022, at 1:10 PM, M
Well, I don’t have a Tesla, but I own a piece of the company. And people beyond
non-owners raise the service question, as do stock analysts.
They come to your house because that is their service model. They have some
service centers, but because the “mobile” model is not proving to be adequate,
On 23 May 2022 at 11:21, paul dove via EV wrote:
> I get real tired of people who donTMt own a Tesla saying Tesla has a service
> problem. Every company gets complaints and dealerships are notorious for bad
> service and pushy salespeople.
Absolutely, there are good and bad service departments f
I get real tired of people who don’t own a Tesla saying Tesla has a service
problem. Every company gets complaints and dealerships are notorious for bad
service and pushy salespeople. Heck, I can’t even get the Mitsubishi dealer
here to fix the I-MiEV. I bought one with a new battery and it woul
It also should be noted that Tesla increasingly has competition. It
may be true that something like a Chevy Bolt is not quite the car a
Model S is but it does have a radio (satellite radio even),
potentially bose sound, and it drives basically just as far as a Model
S does. Tesla has long had a ser
It’s the new paradigm, right?!
(I share your appalledness)
They are first movers in an industry, and with a great product. But this is
disturbing, and they won’t ultimately succeed unless they fix this.
- Mark
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> On May 20, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Ken Olum via E
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