I own and have owned several dozen EVs, mostly Nissan Leafs, but also RAV4EV (the 2002 NiMH variant) and a few electric trucks, mostly the 1994 S10 US Electricar conversion, which I still have 2 of. Recently bought a cheap 2013 Tesla Model S. Cheap because I never spend much on cars and I like fixing my stuff. This one was salvage due to prior (driveable, unrepaired) damage to right rear quarter panel as well as having swapped in a bad battery pack from the previous owner's other 2013 S85. Further issues were a broken C pillar window and 3 door handles with issues. Still, the car is a great drive. And Ebay supplied a set of stainless steel paddle gears, so the door handles have been fixed. Most time cost the (dis)-mounting, because the fix is easy as pi. Ebay further led me to a dismantler who supplied a used triangle window as well as a pack module from another 2013 S85, to replace the unbalanced module from the bad pack that was swapped in. Opening, cleaning and carefully gluing the pack back together is what took most of the time. In the process, I found out that this pack was already repaired in 2018 (probably by Tesla) with the same module that was now bad, from a 2012 pack. So, not all repairs work out well. I had the car recharge the whole pack from 15 to 90% before gluing it back together and found the replaced module slightly higher in voltage by about 0.05V so apparently the module has slightly lower capacity, but as long as it does not get too stressed and the BMS can keep it in line with the other modules, we should be good. Just need to replace the C pillar window and it is a very useful vehicle, unfortunately without the Super Charging, which irks me as nothing anywhere near the charging system had been affected when it was disabled (after the rear right fender bender). Anyway, for its price it is a *LOT* of vehicle. But not as easy to work on as a Leaf, for sure. I still have a 2011 Leaf with about 40 miles range. And a 2012 that had 22 mi range when I towed it home, until I dropped a 2019 62kWh pack into it, combined with Dala-supplied CANbridge to make that pack work in the first gen. So, now it has well over 200 mi range. And I have a 2013 Leaf with 1 year ago replaced pack (just within the 8y California drivetrain warranty) which is really the smoothest and most efficient of all my cars, regularly getting 5mi/kWh. The Model S will probably be the smoothest as soon I start driving it more. No complaints about service here, because I typically only use it to buy unique parts, but dismantlers are a much more reliable source for me, except for Leaf batteries, which are pretty much unobtanium, so it is good I have plenty of them for battery storage experiments. Cor.
On Sunday, May 29, 2022, EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 29 May 2022 at 11:54, Michael A. Radtke via EV wrote: > > > I use the [Imiev] nearly every day and depend on it. I also realize that > > it is approaching end of life and there is nothing on the market that, > > in my opinion, does the job that I need it to do. > > Not to break in on a semi-private conversation here, but I wonder what end- > of-life looks like for an EV. > > For as long as I've been following EVs (about 55 years), lower mechanical > complexity => longer potential mechanical life has always been a big check > in the plus column. > > Stuff wears out, yea verily even electronics. "Longer life" thus assumes > that spare parts remain available and affordable, and that the battery is > rebuildable or replaceable. Spares are always a fight as a car ages. > Fortunately consumer law is more or less on our side on that scrap. > > But at least in the US it's become tougher to improve consumer law. If > we're stuck with the ICEV-oriented laws on EV spare parts availablity, > then > EV end of life might look pretty much like ICEV end of life. > > And then there's the body, again from the perspective of the snowy, salty > northern US. The (galvanized?) steel now used in cars lasts longer than > the > old dip-primed (or not) stuff of 50-60 years ago. But steel never really > stops longing to return to its lower energy steady state of iron oxide. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > We can't solve problems by using the same kind > of thinking we used when we created them. > > -- Alan Kay > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220529/17a8ec61/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
