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fastest.
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> Dear all,
>
> Unless someone objects, I plan to retire python-django4.2 from
> Rawhide
> next week.
>
> Tests currently fail:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2374048
>
> and Django upstream don
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> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
> FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org
> on Matrix.
>
> To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
> http://fedoraproject
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Since the actual effect is preventing Mono => Sans while a quick
reading of the title might suggest the opposite.
Overall, I am in favor, though a bit on the fence about whether this is
self contained or not, similar to what Peter noted a
lugin) = 1.17.1
>
I've taken python-paginate and added the mkdocs-sig group to it.
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> rpms/rust-pwd
Taken as a dependency of rust-nu-path; my intern initially packaged
this
> rpms/zile
Taking this too
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On Thu, 2025-04-24 at 18:13 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 6:11 PM Michel Lind
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2025-04-24 at 17:53 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 07:55:53PM +0100, Aoife Moloney via
tream drops
> support for a feature, we'll follow, but there is little benefit to
> us
> or our users by doing it before upstream.
>
Right. I raised this at the Workstation WG meeting when we reverted the
X11 droppage for F42 and urged that it be a proper change proposal
On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 08:08 +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025, at 11:56 PM, Michel Lind wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Over the past months FESCo has been considering my proposal to have
> > a
> > lighter weight process to get needed changes
esponsive" - just responsive enough to abort the non-
responsive process. There are some that never add co-maintainers - so
this is hopefully a small step in establishing the norm that
maintainers should not have an 'exclusive ownership' mentality but
should welcome sharing the
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have to be done immediately - and
I'll ask the EPEL Steering Committee if we can mark this package
deprecated for a while before then removing after a few months.
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On Wed, 2025-04-02 at 10:47 -0500, Michel Lind via Rust wrote:
> Dear maintainers,
>
> Fabio just flagged that below is now broken in Rawhide because
> netlink-
> packet-route is updated to an incompatible version without providing
> a
> compatibility crate
>
> https:
9.0 with
crate(netlink-packet-route/default) < 0.20.0~)
rust-below-tc : (crate(netlink-packet-route/default) >= 0.19.0 with
crate(netlink-packet-route/default) < 0.20.0~)
rust-rtnetlink : (crate(netlink-packet-route/default) >= 0.19.0 with
crate(netlink-packet-route/default) < 0.20.0~)
On Wed, 2025-04-02 at 11:21 -0500, Michel Lind wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-04-02 at 10:47 -0500, Michel Lind via Rust wrote:
> > Dear maintainers,
> >
> > Fabio just flagged that below is now broken in Rawhide because
> > netlink-
> > packet-route is updated t
maintainers were bcced both a month ago and now.
>
I think this is fine. We don’t plan mass rebuilds for stable releases, it just
means maintainers need to clean up the next time they need to update their
packages, right?
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025, at 2:17 PM, Peter Oliver wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, Michel Lind wrote:
>
>> When rolling out the rebuild of Emacs 30.1 in CentOS Hyperscale SIG, we
>> noticed package installation failures on hosts that have emacs-terminal
>> installed
>
&g
o
"maintain" it already for Hyperscale. FAS: salimma
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2025, at 12:16 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 4:44 PM Michel Lind wrote:
>>
>> > * support for signing with Sequoia-sq as an alternative to GnuPG
>>
>> Is this not already supported in the current RPM? I seem to remember dea
ing sequoia-sq and it being stricter with some non
compliant signatures on third party packages signed with other cryptographic
libraries
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downloads and the documentation. But
> it's probably not.
>
We should probably try and get this into Fedora proper, right? Ideally
everything needed by Fedora infrastructure is in Fedora itself, it took us a
few years to get there with mailman so the earlier we start the
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025, at 10:39 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:24 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:27:59AM -0800, Michel Lind wrote:
>> > - how easy is it to bootstrap the different options (Konflux, Koji, OBS
>> &g
gt; 10 years ago, I had never conceived it was possible, and now I want
> that for Fedora contributors.
This is probably a relevant part of any evaluation - and presumably is already
done, but:
- how easy is it to bootstrap the different options (Konflux, Koji, OBS etc)?
issue URL so he sees it.
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> On Mon, 3 Mar 2025, Michel Lind wrote:
>
> > we should probably
> > - also update F41 and F40?
>
> An exception to the updates policy has been requested, to rebase
> Fedora 41 and 40 to Emacs 30. https:/
The freeze exception has been requested:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1777
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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=30.1&packages=emacs
we should probably
- request that the f42 update be waived from the beta freeze
- also update F41 and F40? <-- happy to prepare PRs if that helps speed things
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>
Happy to co-maintain!
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moved.
From F44 onwards and EPEL 11 onwards, we will remove that upgrade path
since the oldest Fedora release with compat (F41) is not upgradable
directly to F44, and likewise LEAPP and ELevate only supports upgrading
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 12:16:39PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-01-24 at 12:02 -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 05:07:45PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Much like libtest, the mass rebuild has inadvertently bumped the soname
> > &
t's rpmautospec, then the release number need to be manually fiddled
with, but it seems better than having a potential land mine.
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update with --allowerasing and temporarily switch to installing the
extension from extensions.gnome.org
We'll discuss this at the meeting - at the very least some additional
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On Fri, 2025-01-03 at 16:09 -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm working on a Hypothesis update in Rawhide - we generally try and
> update it at least once per release cycle, and only in Rawhide, to
> keep
> it reasonably up to date.
>
> Most of the 78 dep
ut not in as dire a state yet.
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On Thu, 2025-01-09 at 15:59 -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
>
> sooperlooper has been FTBFS for a really long time due to an integer
> conversion issue
> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/2864/127712864/build.log
>
> I can put up a PR if I can get it to build but it prob
On Wed, 2025-01-08 at 23:03 -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 04:29:25PM -0800, Michel Lind wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This PR updates rubberband from v3 to v4; in the process the
> > soversion
> > is bumped from 2 to 3:
> >
> >
On Thu, 2025-01-02 at 12:52 -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 12:12:10PM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> > libkdumpfile 0.5.4 => 0.5.5 involves bumping its soname from 10 to
> > 12
> > (not quite semantic versioned, this one).
> >
> > Th
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 04:29:25PM -0800, Michel Lind wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This PR updates rubberband from v3 to v4; in the process the soversion
> is bumped from 2 to 3:
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rubberband/pull-request/11#request_diff
>
> Per the upstr
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 04:29:25PM -0800, Michel Lind wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This PR updates rubberband from v3 to v4; in the process the soversion
> is bumped from 2 to 3:
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rubberband/pull-request/11#request_diff
>
> Per the upstr
ompa, salimma)
> mailman3-3.3.9-1.fc42.noarch requires
> python3.13dist(flufl-i18n) = 2.0.2
> mailman3-3.3.9-1.fc42.src requires
> python3dist(flufl-i18n) = 2.0.2
>
Picking up python-flufl-i18n as a dependency of the mailman stack.
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On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 12:12:10PM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> libkdumpfile 0.5.4 => 0.5.5 involves bumping its soname from 10 to 12
> (not quite semantic versioned, this one).
>
> This is also the last release with the deprecated Python bindings, which
> no other packa
a 42, just in case) - unless we end
up in an unlikely situation where there is a major issue with
libkdumpfile that requires updating to address.
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On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 05:52:02PM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> pytest-runner has been considered deprecated upstream since 2019:
> https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-runner/commit/78a492cb9f611a4fccaf6556c966b848885833ba
>
> and the repo upstream was archiv
hout a change process.
There's probably also other cases where there are bad enough CVEs that
we want to stop using a package even in stable releases - even though we
can't retire it there (so a Change
process is not timely enough) but I suspect we'd want to get FESCo
approval for
can unmark the package as deprecated
later.
> I opened PR’s (or in some cases committed directly) to remove the
> pytest-runner dependency from the following packages for which I am a direct
> or group/SIG co-maintainer, sending PR’s upstream where applicable.
>
Thank you!
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python-token-bucket : python3dist(pytest-runner)
python-waterfurnace : python3dist(pytest-runner)
python-xdfile : python3dist(pytest-runner)
spec2scl : python3dist(pytest-runner)
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LGTM. Nit: probably mentions when RPM first supports this functionality?
This will head off the unnecessary questions of "can we get this in EL10
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 07:21:07PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 6:31 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:17:12AM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> > > but the only document I see for creating a SIG is still o
e should consider making the process of
creating a new SIG better documented
FESCo has a policy document on specific SIGs' rules
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/SIG_policy/
but the only document I see for creating a SIG is still only a wiki page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_
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> some missing test or documentation dependencies on EPEL side. This activity
> has been noticed, I was suggested that maybe I should go one step further and
> ask to enter the packager group, so here I am.
>
Thanks for those, it's been useful to prioritize which
-pydeps-verbose.sh libtmux
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uot;~" with a configurable separator (default:
> "-") so it is not even strictly suited to be a full RPM -> SemVer
> reverse-converter.
> This is the reason why recent rust2rpm versions just define a separate
> %crate_version macro tha
sure that's just a matter of time at this point and I am all for it.
>
Two new NodeJS maintainers, woohoo! Welcome, and thanks for working on this
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> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Tomas, I'm 23 and newly a part of the nodejs maintainers team at
> red hat.
>
Welcome! Echoing Stephen, glad to see more people tackling NodeJS
maintenance
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rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1
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Hi Kamil,
Firstly, apologies for dropping the ball responding to the PR.
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 08:30:52AM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 12:07:29 AM GMT+1 Michel Lind wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:11:27PM -0300, Marco Benatto wrote:
> &
ystem-wide change, I'll try and have it written up next week after
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branches; while
fast-forward is now supported[1], unless this is one of those packages
with a permanent update exception from FESCo it sounds like just
rebuilding whatever is pushed to Rawhide might be incompatible with the
stable update policy[2]
[1]
https://packit.dev/docs/fedora-releases-gu
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> >
> > Between different work and personal commitments, and evolving interest
> > over time, I sometimes find myself ove
elayed you could schedule it for Towel Day,
> celebrated in memory of Douglas Adams, which is 25th May.
>
> https://www.thereisadayforthat.com/holidays/united-kingdom/towel-day
I don't think we should intentionally delay the launch, but we certainly
could hold the Release Party
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>
> Between different work and personal commitments, and evolving interest
> over time, I sometimes find myself overstretched when it comes to
> maintaining packages, and some of these packages (and needless
s next week with the second package I'm letting go -
I'll try to ensure they are in a reasonable condition when they are
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Is there a reason this will get preinstalled only for KDE? Is that
only because it's the Fedora Asahi default desktop, or are there
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On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Michel Lind wrote:
> Hi all,
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> We thought the SIG might want to chime in on this (might as well sort it
> out before I start writing documentation anyway) - any pros/cons we have
> not thought up, and any recommendation about which
l?
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Fedora Code
did
not take up the package, so I've now filed a request to unretire it
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12287
Igor, let me know if you want to co-maintain.
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p is
> > mandatory there (at least, for Bodhi).
>
> Yep.
Does Packit enforce this too? Otherwise for packages configured to tell
Packit to auto-build, if the ex-packager still has commit access, a
build and Bodhi update can still happen since th
ystem for Linux environment
> notably on desktop i.e. easier boot (my system now uses UKified kernels and
> no longer use partioned nested boot in favour of ESP). Looking forward
> improvment.
>
Glad to hear!
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r all the work!
Thanks for the kind words!
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As you can see from the most recent Fedora changes, we've been defaulting to
Btrfs for a substantial proportion of Fedora variants for quite a while - this
fall will marks four years of Btr
gal statements -- and I think a similar attempt would run into the same
> problems. But, we could have a policy that _isn't_ a legal statement;
> basically a packaging guideline.
>
I'd be happy to help with that - should Council look at this first or
rebuild.
Thanks for the heads up!
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order to troubleshoot boot issues is a terrible change, IMO.
> >
>
> I was referring to the cloud image that were mentioned in this thread to
> not install Plymouth. Is that also the case for the Fedora server image ?
>
Server does not install Plymouth either AIUI; compare
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 02:15:28PM -0500, Michel Lind wrote:
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Descr
y have a good way to decide what spins to stop working
on
Also... if it turns out people are switching desktops quite often,
perhaps a way to properly switch variants cleanly without reinstalling
would be worth working on (this is already easy on immutable distros,
but there's no reason it ca
27;s too general and this
request is too Fedora-specific -- I notice Storyboard uses Ubuntu One
for login, for instance.
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of the company they want to attack. Connecting such devices is
> completely NO-GO.
>
I still cringe thinking of the Google Titan keys that's on every seat
for the keynote of OSSNA 2023.
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Michel Lind wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Just a heads up that the legacy libgee06 package is FTBFS for
> F40/F41:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2261317
>
> and only has one dependent, libfep:
>
> ```
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