RE: Open office Calc crashing

2015-07-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It need not be the same bug. An SEH Exception: Access Violation usually means that the hardware detected an invalid access. See . In general, an Access Violation is not recoverable, which is how it shows up as an

RE: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 122712] PDF Export dialog too tall for some monitor screens

2015-07-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 also -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 05:17 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 122712] PDF Export dialog too tall for some monitor screens On 18 July 2015 at 00:53, Andrea Pescetti w

[DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This is not a nomination statement. It is a comment and a procedural suggestion. COMMENT Jan, I am certain that you gave deep consideration to your decision to resign. I trust that you have other pursuits that are more satisfying and that you can now provide full devotion to. I wish you go

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO

2015-07-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It looks like two mileposts are the same, with August 16 (17 days from now) including "Discuss". I suggest that the "Discussion ends August 23" be removed. I suggest that we can then have "Voting ends" backed up to August 28, 12 days from August 16. This allows some slack time in case there is

[NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton (was [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair ...)

2015-07-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am gratified by the endorsements made to me on this thread. I accept nomination for recommendation as the next Chair for Apache OpenOffice. Jan's August 16 milestone should give us time to identify other's willing to serve as Chair and address any questions that the AOO community may have for

[DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 (was RE: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton ... )

2015-07-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Roberto mentions the forthcoming ODF Plugfest to be held September 15-16 at the Hague. WHAT THE ODF PLUGFEST IS Information about the Plugfest is on this Wiki page: . To see how these have operated, it is useful t

RE: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 - Interop Testing

2015-08-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Comment below, -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 07:29 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 (was RE: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton ... ) On 01/08/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-08-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ginal Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 07:29 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 (was RE: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton ... ) On 01/08/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I do not have the

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO

2015-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
is anything unexpected. - Dennis -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 15:38 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Dennis E

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO

2015-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ay to say this is Discussion will end 7 days after the last accepted-/self- Nomination, and no earlier than August 16. Since August 16 is already on the books, that would not change, but we might find some slack post-August 16. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Ham

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO

2015-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The August Board meeting is on August 19 and I suspect that a resolution to the Board must be provided on or before August 17. (I couldn't find a different deadline other than 2 days before.) My sense is that it is very important to be consistent and deliberate. For me, August 16 closing of n

RE: For Information: Reported Windows 10 problems

2015-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
These accounts don't provide enough information to nail anything down to root causes, and some of the forum cases are not resolved one way or the other yet. My main desktop machine upgraded (with my permission) to Windows 10 Pro x64 on the evening of July 29. I already had AOO 4.1.1 and Libre

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO

2015-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, August 4, 2015 11:05 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO Hi it seems there are different opinions on how to handle the rest of the chair election process. I suggested a timeline, in the beginning, but I cannot see

STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

2015-08-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Apache OpenOffice, other than noticing what they are. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed

RE: STATE OF AOO: Overall Bugzilla Activity through July 2015

2015-08-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Marcus, the queries I did for identification of open issues found only issues with no resolution of any kind. That automatically excluded issues with any of DUPLICATE, ..., WON'T FIX, and CLOSED status. Older open issues, some from long before Apache OpenOffice was established, continue to rec

REPORTING Windows 10 Upgrade Issues: BASIC SITUATION

2015-08-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
We are reading reports of some users being able to edit in OpenOffice after upgrading to Windows 10. We have not been able to reproduce the situation from that information alone. Many of us have upgraded to Windows 10 without difficulty. If you or someone you know is having this problem show

REPORTING Windows 10 Upgrade Issues: BASIC SITUATION - Correction

2015-08-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
We are reading reports of some users *not* being able to edit in OpenOffice after upgrading to Windows 10. We have not been able to reproduce the situation from that information alone. Many of us have upgraded to Windows 10 without difficulty. If you or someone you know is having this proble

RE: REPORTING Windows 10 Upgrade Issues: BASIC SITUATION

2015-08-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
re using for OpenOffice are set to "read only". Seems like the likeliest thing to me. Max Am 08.08.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > We are reading reports of some users being able to edit in OpenOffice after > upgrading to Windows 10. We have not been able to rep

RE: Simple code practice to get started

2015-08-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Building AOO does not put its results where an operating version of AOO has been installed on Windows. It sounds like you have not built the entire package. Or you built it but did not run the installer that you built. Running the installer will replace an existing version. It would be goo

FW: REPORTING Windows 10 Upgrade Issues: BASIC SITUATION

2015-08-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Janet Monk sent her response directly to me. I am forwarding it to the list with permission. I have a response for the *.odt files that I will post at once. The *.odb files may be trickier. [ … ] From: Janet Monk [mailto:janm...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 02:05 To: orc...@apac

RE: Simple code practice to get started

2015-08-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Jason, use the more-comprehensive advice from Regina. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Jason Marshall [mailto:j_k_marshall_2...@live.com] Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:20 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: Simple code practice to get started Dear Dennis Thank you for loo

NOT EDITABLE ON WINDOWS 10: The Lingering-Lock Case

2015-08-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
After upgrading to Windows 10, some users notice that they have files OpenOffice reports as not editable. There is a report that the named file is "locked for editing." (This is slightly different than saying the files are read-only.) WHEN THIS IS HAPPENING TO YOU ... If you followed the pro

NOT EDITABLE ON WINDOWS 10: The Lingering-Lock Case - Update

2015-08-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Corrections to the wording in "IF YOU DON'T SUCCEED" -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 13:46 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: NOT EDITABLE ON WINDOWS 10: The Lingering-Lock Case After upgrading to W

RE: FW: NOT EDITABLE ON WINDOWS 10: The Lingering-Lock Case

2015-08-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, Dennis E. Hamilton mailto:orc...@apache.org> > wrote: Here is the procedure for you to try. I have more questions: 1. I don't know if this will work as described for a file in a OneDrive folder. Let us know if it works. 2. I don't know about .odb files either. Let us know i

FW: FW: NOT EDITABLE ON WINDOWS 10: The Lingering-Lock Case

2015-08-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
and clicked off the child permission blockage which gave the administrator full control and so far it seems to be working. regards Janet On 12 August 2015 at 18:22, Dennis E. Hamilton mailto:orc...@apache.org> > wrote: Janet, Thank you for your follow-up. Are you saying that with

RE: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.

2015-08-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
=0 (binding), abstain -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 23:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair. [ ... ] Voting rules are as follows: - Only PMC votes are binding, but everybody are welcom

QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-08-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Tony, this reminds me of some questions that would help us understand what is involved. These questions are anyone knowledgable of the current arrangements: I see four levels of support to wikis and forums: 1. User Account and Content Administration I believe this is handed. Does

RE: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-08-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
onday, August 17, 2015 14:42 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 02:23:48PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks Tony, this reminds me of some questions that would help us understand > what

Others Pontificate the future of Apache OpenOffice

2015-08-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This blog post was just brought to my attention, . From my perspective, the Apache OpenOffice team is found in this dev@ community, where the committers and the PMC are successive subsets

RE: Section styles?

2015-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Rory, concerning difficulties setting styles on sections, Do you mean you used multiple sections or did you make multiple copies of the same section? I am not clear how OpenOffice handles the copying of sections as well as linking of one section for content/styles of another. The ODF 1.2 spe

RE: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I suspect the Roman alphabet, conventional-font space-/indent-sizing is inapplicable for some Asian languages. (I hope the Asian setting is specifically for CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) or we could be having problems with some very complex language scripts as well. Rory, I don't believe "au

RE: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Apparently, Friday is ODF question day [;<). I suspect that default indentation amounts are nowhere specified in the ODF 1.2 Specification and it is an implementation-defined behavior. I looked at every occurrence of indent* in the ODF 1.2 specification and nowhere are there default values fo

RE: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ri, 21 Aug 2015 15:23:22 -0700 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: [ ... ] I cannot answer for what happens when using R to L type or what (if any) is the typesetting "norm" for such languages. I'll root around later today to see if I can come up with anything, but I'm

RE: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 09:20 To: OOo Apache Subject: Re: help needed on ODF standard for "auto" indent for paragraphs On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:23:22 -0700 > "Dennis E. Hamilton&qu

RE: [RESULT][VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.

2015-08-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
0 Jan Iverson (binding) =0 Dennis E. Hamilton (binding) +0 Olaf Felka 3 TOTAL ABSTENTIONS NO votes none - Dennis -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 00:27 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO

2015-08-24 Future Board Reports

2015-08-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am changing the practice of development and submission of Reports to the Board. Technically, Reports to the Board are an accountability of the PMC Chair to the ASF Board of Directors. It is one of the matters that is an obligation of the Chair and it is to the Board and only the Board. Clea

RE: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports

2015-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
an also see how other projects report there. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 20:14 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports Dennis, [ ... ] Thanks f

RE: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports

2015-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ion from Louis Suárez-Potts. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 02:07 To: dev ; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >

2015-08-25 When Speaking as the Chair

2015-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to the AOO PMC] >From the Chair, It occurs to me that the role of the Chair of the Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee is often seriously over-estimated. There is also a level of prestige that may be associated with it that tends to give more weight to what I might say than ot

RE: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports

2015-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thank you Andrea, Your suggestions are valuable to me and I will take them to heart. -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 14:44 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports [ ... ] Can I propo

2015-08-26 Role of the Chair

2015-08-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to the AOO PMC] >From the Chair, It is useful to know some specifics concerning the role of a Project Management Committee (PMC) Chair. This is what I rely on as guidance for carrying out my responsibilities. **PLEASE NOTE** It might appear in the material below that the Chair is in a

[REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
>From an AOO PMC Member, I have compiled a high-level traffic analysis of discussion activity on the OpenOffice PMC private@ oo.a.o list. These are *statistics* and noisy ones at that. I am looking for trends that are good-enough at this level of precision. It is in the nature of private@ th

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
With a correction already, Of all the messages sent, 84.3% are by members of the PMC, 13.4% are by other ASF participants, and 2.3% are by others. [The extra decimals are simply to achieve a confirmable total of 100%, precision not so much.] -Original Message- From: Dennis E

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ty dormant for a long-time, so I'm a little out of touch with what's going on (gone on) here, but you have me intrigued with this. Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > From an AOO PMC Member, > >

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Good idea, Phil Separating out [VOTE] and maybe even [DISCUSS] threads related to [VOTE]s and/or lazy consensus should be possible. I will look into that as a refinement in future reports. (It will also be helpful if the practices for tagging mail threads are followed consistently.) It shoul

Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion (was RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List ...)

2015-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
>From the Chair, I don't know, off-hand, what the proportion of discussion of Trademark Policy is in the PMC private discussion activity so far this year. However, a discussion of trademark policy, as such, especially with "real and fictional examples," is inappropriate on this list if it is ab

RE: Programming Open Office

2015-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
All of the source code used in making an Apache OpenOffice distribution is available free to the public, in the same manner as the OpenOffice software the people directly. The code can be downloaded, modified (or not) and used to build the programs. The use of that code is governed by the Apac

RE: Programming Open Office

2015-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
--Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 17:42 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: Programming Open Office All of the source code used in making an Apache OpenOffice distribution is available free to the public, in the

Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

2015-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
>From the Chair, I need to speak up about the "rebasing" business. 1. Use of the ALv2 has nothing to do with trademarks, so this conversation should be on a separate thread. 2. However, it probably should not be held here and certainly not privately by the PMC. If someone wants to pursue

RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion (was RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List ...)

2015-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm wondering about the following. I think the "based on X" conversation is already happening at a general level and I believe participation at that level is better, since this will probably be simple and generic and VP Brand Management will likely take a position that applies to us also.

RE: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

2015-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Oh, I'm sorry, Dave. I thought I was making it clear, on this change of subject, that I am not talking about trademarks but only 3rd parties deriving from ALv2 code itself, including by "rebasing," forking, or any other means. With regard to the use of marks and "Powered By" I agree that is sep

RE: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

2015-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thank you for your remarks, Pedro. Just two things: 1. I was referring to LICENSE and NOTICE files in an installed binary distribution. I should have used NOTICE file, since that is what is named in ALv2, and I should have said copy of the license, not a specific LICENSE file. I verifie

RE: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

2015-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Pedro, can you provide a public URL to the file that concerns you? I cannot find directory main/ooo_custom_images on https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main and there is nothing similar on the web site. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache

RE: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

2015-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 09:28 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...) Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I cannot find direct

RE: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

2015-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
pache notice. This appears to be an oversight. 1.1 I need to confirm the provenance of this file. 1.2 We do need to figure out why RAT apparently does not catch it. Pondering next steps, looking for insights of others, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are users who will find the political drama compelling. There is nothing to be done about that. It does not make the product better and it distracts those who want to find ways to serve the broad community no matter what code base is being worked on. The asymmetrical situation around li

FW: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
More information about the Plugfest for some who might not have noticed earlier. I have edited this lightly to reflect the current status in my case. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 15:31 To: dev

RE: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:06 To: dev ; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: AOO -> LO or MS O 2015-09-03 17:48 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton : > PS: On the interoperable-use challenge lurking in the article, > > The historical business was too long and not so meaningful to user need

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
rvive on this list though.) If you prefer that work-in-progress not be posted to this public list, you are welcome to respond to private@ openoffice.apache.org where the Project Management Committee can look it over. We will probably need to have a link to some repository location. -- Den

RE: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is not clear to me what is being discussed here. Can we separate out the parts, please? 1. There is discussion of sending someone to participate in the ODF Plugfest to be held on 2015-09/15-16, 11 days from now. That includes a request for travel funding. 2. It is not clear to me exactl

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
glish and Dutch. The document and many translations make up the OFE ODF toolkit which can be found here: http://www.openforumeurope.org/library/odf-toolkit-2/ I hope this helps inform you of our project. Best regards, Stuart. PS Louis, thanks for the note. -- Dennis E. Hami

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hi Basil, It appears this message was caught in whatever routing issue that interfered with traffic between the US and UK earlier today. Here, we have already seen Roberto’s response, a second response from you, and discussion on dev@ oo.a.o. I think we’ll all catch our breath now and wait f

RE: [PROPOSAL][EXT] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
How are these files distributed now, Carl? -Original Message- From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 17:18 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [PROPOSAL][EXT] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository Hi all, I propose submitting the latest

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the idea is to work toward consensus. The proposal of a [VOTE] on a matter not yet made specific and discussed is not particularly advisable. How about a [PROPOSE] or a [DISCUSS] thread. If you look for a lazy consensus, please allow for the fact that this is a 3-day Holiday weekend in

[DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice ODF in the Marketplace

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
tied directly to how they are supported in ODF by Apache OpenOffice. We could mine some of the data we have for a profile of these categories. It is not clear how indicative it is until we gather it. Where would be a good start for a short term trial investigation? -Original Message

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
; Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets Hi all, > On 04 Sep 15, at 22:13, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > I think the idea is to work toward consensus. The proposal of a [VOTE] on a > matter not yet made specific and discussed is not particularly advisab

RE: [PROPOSAL][EXT] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository

2015-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ou can follow the discussion on legal-discuss @ apache.org. -Original Message- From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 19:51 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][EXT] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository On 09/04/2015 0

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Andrea, I am missing context. Where are you seeing this information and where do you propose to submit the updates? I have no problem with the proposed changes. Just want to know where they go. Is it meaningful to report that the default and recommended outputs are Extended ODF 1.2 do

RE: FreeBSD build success!

2015-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Awesome, Pedro. Thank you for your effort in this accomplishment too. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 10:26 To: Apache OO ; Don Lewis Subject: Re: FreeBSD build success! Hello; As Kay has noticed, and basical

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
leaflets Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I am missing context. Where are you seeing this information and where do you > propose to submit the updates? It is page 5 of http://openforumeurope.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/OFE-COIS-DFD-ODF-Open-Document-Principles-for-Government-Technology

RE: Status page for OpenOffice 4.1.2

2015-09-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
FYI, . There will be AOO 4.1.2 release notes. Exactly what point is intended to be made? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 17:35 To: dev@openoffice.apache

RE: [PROPOSAL][EXT] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository

2015-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository Dennis, Thanks for the information If there are no -1's I'll report back after I look into all the requirements. Thanks, Carl On 09/05/2015 10:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks for the information, Carl. > > The labelin

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
>From the Chair, Stuart, thank you for your patience and keeping the AOO community tied into the planning for the ODF Plugfest and preparation of the booklet. It appears that the “Application Choices” convergence achieved with the suggestions from Andrea Pescetti is quite satisfactory. There

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks, Stuart. To be clear, I was not thinking of direct participation but something simple to be used in providing the “ODF in the marketplace” session with some useful self-explanatory data from the Apache OpenOffice Project. In any case, I doubt there is something that could be done in th

[DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: The AOO PMC

2015-09-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
er, 2012. 7 are new or returned PMC members 6 of the current PMC are Apache Software Foundation Members, including the one Past Chair 2015-08-23 Jan Iverson retired 2015-02-13 Dennis E. Hamilton joined the PMC 2015-02-11 Jan Iverson returned to PMC as Chair 2015-01-03 Mecht

RE: [DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: The AOO PMC

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks, Andrea s in-line. -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 00:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: The AOO PMC On 09/09/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > the only nominee to s

RE: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. WARNING: It is your responsibility to take all necessary steps to ensure this e-mail and any attachments to it are free from viruses. On 7 September 2015 at 20:21, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks, Stuart.

FW: [DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
th positive assistance no matter how they bring their situation to the attention of the project. Accomplishing that is open for discussion. "It takes a village." -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 19:57 To

RE: FW: [DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to extrapolate without any deeper understanding. On 09/09/2015 11:33 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > From the Chair, > [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

AOO-Earmarked Funds

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Andrea, I notice, from time-to-time that there seem to be funds that there are AOO-earmarked funds that the ASF received.. Is it the case that those funds are dedicated to events, such as attendance allowances and collateral materials? Or may these funds be applied to other purposes? One case

Slow but steady, please

2015-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the Wikipedia editing adventure did not have a good ending. That is to be expected. I think that there is no point in attempting to edit Wikipedia in situations such as this. These things invariably end badly. On the other hand, there are level-headed folk out there, and you might fi

INTEROPERABILITY: Initial PLugfest Test Collection

2015-09-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
A set of initial, raw tests was provided for review, clarification, and updating at the ODF Plugfest that started today in The Netherlands. I asked permission to share this information, at the end, below, with the Apache OpenOffice developers list, with the following observations: "I am more

RE: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Time, gentlemen, time. We're far across the ad hominem boundary and it is time to let this thread go night-night. Whatever is thought of about what happens on Wikipedia, it is not ASF and AOO business. We have our own business to attend to. If folks want to keep fussing about it, there are m

FW: [PROPOSAL] QA Prioritization on Reports

2015-09-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Although of specific importance for QA, this deserves awareness and consideration in the boarder dev community. Sorry, I was focused too narrowly, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 08:29 To: q

FW: [PROPOSAL] On Reproducibility of Defects

2015-09-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Here's another. It is so easy to just keep responding on a thread where something first comes up. I will do better on this. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 19:17 To: q...@openoffice.apache.org

The "right way" to Ship Software

2015-09-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There is a need basis also, especially around the fact that predictability is a big deal with regard to the handling of digital documents across platforms. Look at the whole article. Where are we? And then how does management of risk fit? -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.

RE: [DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice ODF in the Marketplace - Downloading

2015-09-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ffice. There may be ways to learn more. - Dennis -----Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 20:01 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice ODF in the Marketplace I had not encountered the topic of &

Apache OpenOffice Board-Reporting Schedule

2015-10-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to PMC] >From the Chair, After watching the Board process for almost a month now, I have the following observations about the reporting calendar for Apache OpenOffice. Here is the reporting cycle we are on: QUARTER REPORTFINAL January 1 - March 31 April

[QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality

2015-10-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In looking into some usability issues, I ran into a concern about how Java is optional yet there are features that absolutely depend on it. I think some of those are essential features. I have been mentioning this in other contexts and I'd like to test community wisdom for understanding here. I

RE: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality

2015-10-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks, Marcus and Kay. Oh, I know so little about what is on the web site and wikis now. Must nose around more. I would reword the Java and Accessibility statements a bit, but you have answered my basic question. There remain some usability questions. I wonder if others have Observations or

RE: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality

2015-10-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 17:25 > To: Apache OO > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Kay Schenk > wrote: [ ... ] > > Maybe it's time

RE: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126597] Object Properties dialog contains "JRE Required" trap

2015-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm sorry. It was not my intention to request a release blocker. That must have been automatically checked. Please deny the request. I agree completely that there should be no blocker on this. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Tuesda

RE: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality

2015-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Summary of what this thread revealed, in-line. > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:58 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality > >

RE: Please test updates with OpenOffice 4.1.2-RC2

2015-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I confirmed that "Check for Updates" works on Windows 10 Pro x64 en-US. The results are at . I did not do the extensions test. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October

[QUESTION] How Many Pre-Built Binaries are Enough?

2015-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
platforms. It is only about distributing pre-built binaries. I suspect there are more details, and better questions, that could be raised. I'm all ears. What are your concerns? What do you see being overlooked in this calculus? - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis

[REPORT] PMC 2015-08 Private-List Activity through August

2015-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
vocal 9 of the 15 PMC members that posted approximating the overall pattern through July. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 14:43 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: R

RE: Does GPL apply when building AOO under CygWin?

2015-10-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Cygwin is used only for building Windows binaries. The resulting binaries are native Windows and neither use nor distribute the Cygwin DLL. (The Visual Studio VC++ tool chain is run from within the CygWin shell, and that is what provides the completely-native Windows binary for Apache OpenOffic

RE: Pending release tasks

2015-10-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Excellent! > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 16:15 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pending release tasks > > Marcus wrote: > 2) Upload to mirrors. Does anyone know how to copy files to SF... > > U

RE: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Release 4.1.2-RC3 as OpenOffice 4.1.2

2015-10-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:04 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Release 4.1.2-RC3 as OpenOffice 4.1.2 > > On 27/10/15 17:45, Regina Henschel wrote: > > Hi Jürgen, > > > > Jürg

RE: Remembering Ian Lynch in 4.1.2 announcement

2015-10-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 also > -Original Message- > From: JZA [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 16:57 > To: dev > Subject: Re: Remembering Ian Lynch in 4.1.2 announcement > > +1 > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: > > > I was wondering whether we shou

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