Re: Altgr on iBook

2003-03-08 Thread Frank Murphy
> Search the list archives for altgr for the last couple of months, a > solution was found I believe. > > If someone would like to contribute a little writeup about this, I could > add it to the install manual's post-install section. I saw this old problem on the powerpc list. I've been messing

Re: getting audio cd sound to work

2003-03-14 Thread Frank Murphy
I tried to solve this problem this week as well. It seems that it's not possible to play audio CDs in KDE (through arts) on NewWorld ppc machines. KsCD doesn't actually read the CD data, but controls the track movement and relies on the CD/soundcard direct connection (which doesn't exist on New

iBook at 640x480

2003-03-14 Thread Frank Murphy
Has anyone worked out what the framebuffer config is for an iBook at 640x480? Trying to get Mac-on-Linux to run at 640x480 in fullscreen mode, but there's no configuration for 640x480. Has anyone here already worked this out? Frank

iBook screen contrast

2003-03-15 Thread Frank Murphy
I realize that my iBook's screen contrast is way to high. (It's difficult to read everything.) It seems that adjusting screen contrast on these is done in software. Any ideas how to adjust this? Frank __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establis

Re: iBook at 640x480

2003-03-15 Thread Frank Murphy
--- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fre, 2003-03-14 at 17:46, Frank Murphy wrote: > > Has anyone worked out what the framebuffer config is for an iBook > at 640x480? > > Trying to get Mac-on-Linux to run at 640x480 in fullscreen mode, > but there&

Re: iBook at 640x480

2003-03-16 Thread Frank Murphy
--- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sam, 2003-03-15 at 10:41, Frank Murphy wrote: > > --- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fre, 2003-03-14 at 17:46, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > Has anyone worked out what the framebuffer

Re: iBook at 640x480

2003-03-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 17 March 2003 02:27 am, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Can you point me to a specific place in there if you think it's > important? I don't have time to dig through it right now. Sorry. I thought I had, but had the URL for the wrong frame. Here's the specific: http://developer.apple.com/techpu

sid audio problem xmms & artsdsp

2003-03-24 Thread Frank Murphy
I recently upgraded my sid, and now xmms plays static when I try playing audio when starting xmms with artsdsp. Unfortunately, I didn't notice what I had upgraded to get this. I think that it might be an endian problem because it sounds the same as when I used the xmmsarts plugin (which does ha

Re: sid audio problem xmms & artsdsp

2003-03-25 Thread Frank Murphy
--- Ralf Nolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 24 March 2003 21:58, Frank Murphy wrote: > > I recently upgraded my sid, and now xmms plays static when I try > > playing audio when starting xmms with artsdsp. Unfortunately, I didn't > > notice what I had up

pmud sleep and eth0 ifconfig on old iBook

2003-04-05 Thread Frank Murphy
Hi All, I know that this is a common problem, but I don't know what the proper solution is. I have an old two-tone iBook with sid installed, and when I close the cover, it sleeps like it should (pulsing light and everything). However, on restart, the built-in ethernet is down. I can restart

Re: What can I get rid of?

2003-04-05 Thread Frank Murphy
`apt-get clean` will delete all your downloaded packages (the .deb files). If you use dselect, it happens automatically though. Otherwise, do dpkg -l and see which packages you don't use. (And don't have both KDE & Gnome installed! :) Frank On Saturday 05 April 2003 5:28, Nathan S. wrote: > I

Re: keymaps

2003-04-10 Thread Frank Murphy
Most of these files should already be in /usr/share/keymaps/i386 as part of the console-data package. It's odd that they're in i386, but it's because the ppc kernel is now using the "default" linux keycodes (and we all know that "default linux" = i386 :) The mac-usb-qwertz-layout is identical

Re: keymaps

2003-04-10 Thread Frank Murphy
What happens if you pick "arch list," "qwertz," "Swiss"? I'm running unstable, so this might be a bit different than yours. > Very interesting. But how do you configure the keyboard? I do kbdconfig > and then I choose 'arch list' 'German' 'latin 1'. > > But this gives me the @ on the 2 and not o

Re: keymaps

2003-04-10 Thread Frank Murphy
> Sorry, I don't get it! Yeah, the keyboard configuration setup on Linux leaves much to be desired. But it should work in the end. > I have a keymap "ibook2-de-latin1" of which i thought it might help me > to get a working alt and/or apple key,anything that lets me have these > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: keymaps

2003-04-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Friday 11 April 2003 8:29, Zeno Davatz wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > >What happens if you pick "arch list," "qwertz," "Swiss"? I'm running > > unstable, so this might be a bit different than yours. > > I am running unstable to. I choose

Re: xine-lib-1-beta12 and XV crashes Xserver

2003-05-16 Thread Frank Murphy
> Also, the usual precautions related to fonts apply. What are the usual precautions related to fonts? Frank

keymaps question

2003-05-16 Thread Frank Murphy
I have an older clamshell iBook with a US keyboard. From the documentation on Apple's website[1], the Apple logo/command key should be the windows key when the special 'fn' key is held down. However, in both the console and XFree86, the fn+Apple Logo generates keycode 116 on the console (using

Re: ibook 2000 kernel config, install config

2003-05-19 Thread Frank Murphy
> I'm installing Debian 3.0r1 ppc from CDs onto a year 2000 ibook. I installed onto my Grey/White 1999iBook from the net using Branden's instructions (http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook). I immediately went to sid though. > 2. Where can I find a copy of the .config files used to build the

Re: German keyboard and X on PB Ti 1GHz

2003-06-01 Thread Frank Murphy
> 2.) Apply the attached patch file. It patches > /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 and sets the AppleKey to > be AltGr. To note, without all this patching, the AltGr key is generated by pressing the 'fn' key plus either Alt key. A bit strange, but it's the way Apple designed these keyboards. Fran

usb keyboard and "keypad equals"

2003-06-02 Thread Frank Murphy
Is anyone here able to use the equals key on the keypad in X? For me, it moves the cursor back one space, like the left arrow. Looking at xev, it seems that the keycodes for these two keys are the same: KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0x1e1, root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 109

Re: Is make-kpkg supposed to work on ppc ?

2003-06-05 Thread Frank Murphy
> BTW, if i were to make an official kernel package with it, should i > create a whole new package or make a patch against one of the existing > kernel-source packages ? The actual package is a bastard fork from one > year ago or such, so i don't really know from which kernel-source > package i sh

Re: I can´t configure X - Windows on my iMac!

2003-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
> I installed through TASKSEL and when I rebooted the machine, the > screen just flickered two or three times, went blank and gave me the > command line prompt. with a message of something like "no core devices > identified". I guess it is a problem with the XF86Config file. Look at the XFr

Re: french keyboard on Pismo

2003-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 12 June 2003 3:10, Jacques Kern wrote: > I was unable to find how to configure a french keyboard correctly. Are you trying to get it working in X or on the console? The two methods are different. For the console, do `dpkg-reconfigure console-data` and select the keyboard you think w

pmud security problem? Anyone can snooze a system

2003-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
Seems that on iX86 boxes, apm only allows a user to snooze a system if the binary is SUID root (which it's not, by default, on Debian). pmud's /sbin/snooze, however, allows anyone to suspend the system. This seems like a way to a local DOS, though only desktop systems would be using pmud. I no

Re: french keyboard on Pismo

2003-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
> Then it appears that X has a bug, while console-tools correctly supports > this early iMac CRT keyboard (the original narrow keyboard, before the Pro > model). After you've configured X (with `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`), what does the Keyboard InputDevice section in /etc/X11/XF86Config

Re: non-US keyboard on Pismo

2003-06-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 14 June 2003 6:13, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Then it appears that X has a bug, while console-tools correctly > > > supports this early iMac CRT keyboard (the original narrow keyboard, > > > before the Pr

Re: non-US keyboard on Pismo

2003-06-16 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Otherwise, try deleting the XkbLayout line and adding a line: > > XkbSymbols "symbols/en_us(pc105)+fi > > Nope. Oops. Try XkbSymbols "en_us(pc105)+fi" In /var/log/XFree86.0.log, what are the lines following: (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" Frank

Re: non-US keyboard on Pismo

2003-06-17 Thread Frank Murphy
OK. Add the following at the top of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbLayout" "fi"

Re: kde

2003-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy
> I had kde 2.9.9 (woody disks) runing, i upgraded to kde3.1.1 (deb > http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian/ stable main (atpt-get > install kdebse)) These debs from kde.org are not from Debian, so they might cause problems like the ones you're seeing. > Where can i get libarts1? or what

Re: non-US keyboard on Pismo

2003-06-23 Thread Frank Murphy
> The source of the problem is that absolutely everything in XFree is assumed > to be a variation on PC keyboards. The bottom row on a Finnish/Swedish > pc105 is: > > Control_L,(windows),Alt_L,space,Mode_switch,(windows),(menu),Control_R. > > On a Finnish/Swedish early iMac with the narrow

Re: KDE3

2003-06-23 Thread Frank Murphy
> KDE 3.1.2 here running in an ibook2.2 under debian sid. No problem at all, > runs fine ;-) I had been running KDE 3.1.1 with no problems, but now that I have upgraded to 3.1.2, I have problems with websites detecting that I have JavaScript enabled. An easy page to see this is here: https://t

Re: KDE3

2003-06-25 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Is anyone else having problems like this? I have it with Yahoo! Mail and > > I get a connection broken error, at least under i386, haven't tried under > ppc yet. Works fine under mozilla Turns out that there's a problem with libpcre3 not providing libpcreposix anymore when it still should. A

Re: sound

2003-07-01 Thread Frank Murphy
> i can't hear any music cd, not with xmms (the proper plugin is installed), > not with kscd. You won't hear any sound with kscd on Apple PPC hardware. kscd assumes that the CD drive is directly connected to the sound card, which it's not on Apple hardware. I assume that you have the xmms-cdrea

Re: sound

2003-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
> i desinstaled xmmsarts package, because i upgrade to kde 3.1.2, and it > uses libarts1, not libarts. if i try to install xmmsarts package the > system would desinstall all kde. I assume that you upgraded to KDE 3.1.2 from the kde.org site, not from Debian's sarge or sid, right? If that's the c

Re: keycodes

2003-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
xev only shows the X keycodes. He needs the console keycodes which can be gotten with showkey run on a console (not in an XTerm). > use the program "xev" > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 12:50:44AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How can i see the keycodes? > > > > i want to configure the 2 and

Re: sound

2003-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
> i would try, but when i do: > > apt-get source xmmsarts > > it download 3 packages: > > xmmsarts_0.4-18.diff.gz > xmmsarts_0.4-18.dsc > xmmsarts_0.4.orig.tar.gz > > what i should do with the 3 files? (i never used apt-get source before, > and i'm new in debian) I haven't used apt-get source ei

Re: sound

2003-07-03 Thread Frank Murphy
> > > the user is in the groups: > > > > > > disk,cdrom,audio > > > > > > and no sound. > > > > OK, just being in audio should be enough. What's the output of `id` from > > konsole? > > I don't understand this, what do you mean with "the output of `id` from > konsole" Sorry. There's a command lin

Kernel warning messages when insmodding unix.o

2003-07-03 Thread Frank Murphy
I've been getting these warning messages on boot for a while. I get them with stock kernel-images 2.4.19-2 and 2.4.20-4. The system boots fine, so the warnings seem harmless, but I'd prefer they weren't there. insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.20-powerpc/kernel/net/unix/unix.o Cannot open /proc/ksyms N

Re: Kernel warning messages when insmodding unix.o

2003-07-03 Thread Frank Murphy
failed It seems that the unix sockets are loaded before init starts. But if that's true, the /proc/ksyms warning is confusing. Or are there multiple things going wrong here? It's also strange that the 'insmod:' gets repeated. Frank On Thursday 03 July 2003 1:54, Frank Murph

Re: Kernel warning messages when insmodding unix.o

2003-07-04 Thread Frank Murphy
> > But if that's true, the /proc/ksyms warning is confusing. Or are there > > multiple things going wrong here? > > Indeed, part of it could be the /proc problem someone else has reported > before. There was also discussion about how to track this down in that > thread. When was that thread? Do

Re: Kernel warning messages when insmodding unix.o

2003-07-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 08 July 2003 2:28, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 18:22, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > But if that's true, the /proc/ksyms warning is confusing. Or are > > > > there multiple things going wrong here? > > > > > > Indeed, part

Re: Kernel warning messages when insmodding unix.o

2003-07-10 Thread Frank Murphy
> Well, init is /bin/sh in this scenario, so you're saying the warnings > also appear if you don't type anything at the shell prompt? If not, the > idea is to start the /etc/rcS.d/S* scripts one by one and notice after > which one(s) the warnings appear. Exactly. In fact, the unix.o warnings are

Re: Kernel warning messages when insmodding unix.o

2003-07-10 Thread Frank Murphy
> > > > I get another complaint with hid.o and a missing mousedev module > > > > (which makes sense because moudev.o is only for PS/2 mice, I believe; > > > > however, before init starts there's a log "mice: PS/2 mouse device > > > > common for all mice"). > > > > > > Which doesn't sound like it's

Re: Kernel configuration for USB mouse

2003-07-14 Thread Frank Murphy
> On a Powerbook G4: > For a Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: > > Do I need the CONFIG_MOUSE (or some other) option enabled in the > 2.4.21-ben2 Kernel, if I want to plug the mouse to an USB connector? > > Or will the mouse be run by enabling one of the CONFIG_USB options in this > kernel? I'm no

cannot adjust audio balance with OSS on old iBook

2003-07-15 Thread Frank Murphy
I just noticed that I can't adjust the audio balance on my iBook. When I boot into OS 9, I can adjust it, so it seems to be a Linux problem. When I adjust the balance with aumix or xmms to be stronger on the left, the volume decreases, and it increases when I strengthen it on the right. When I

Re: Kernel configuration for USB mouse

2003-07-16 Thread Frank Murphy
> ... the point is, that with pre-compiled kernels, AfAIK, I'll have a lot > of non-modular capabilities built-in to the kernel, thus wasting RAM (and > speed?) that otherwise could be used for stuff I really need on the > machine. > > So compiling myself is option #1 (I'm definitely not keen on e

Re: Xpmac couldn't find font 'fixed'

2003-07-18 Thread Frank Murphy
> Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining > > > Where can I get the fixed font? apt-get install xfonts-base

Re: cannot adjust audio balance with OSS on old iBook

2003-07-19 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Others seeing this? Any ideas where this problem might lie? Because it > > happens in two audio apps, I imagine it's a lower-level problem. Anyone > > seeing the same thing with ALSA? > > Is this one of the round clamshell-style iBooks? I don't think I was > able to discern from the DACA mixer

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
> The Opt-F1,F2,etc trick wasn't working, and neither does this. I think that the Xpmac server doesn't allow this -- trick (but it is Control and Opt and Function key; I assume you typoed that above.) > To those who wanted the logs, it was actually at /var/log/xdm.log > And, to those who are sa

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
> I turned authorization off as you said, and now I get a > cooler-looking login screen, along with a little output-only console in > the bottom right. When I enter my name/pass, the console prints "(xdm) > session opened by uid" and the rest is cut off at the edge of the > screen. The screen f

Re: X Won't Log In

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 4:48, Steven Schlansker wrote: > Kernel options? Where do I set those? > I set the video driver to the framebuffer one (fbdev I think) but it > doesn't work. (in the real XFree86 that is) - I'll try to set the > video=valkyriefb as soon as someone tells me where I set the k

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
> > But Xpmac is unsupported in Debian (which is why you had to compile > > it yourself), so that means that valkyrie video devices are unsupported > > in Debian. > > Unsupported? The fbdev driver should work with it, at least with > valkyriefb. Ah OK. So Xpmac is unsupported, but valkyrie device

Re: X Won't Log In

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
g else to try to get XFree86 running. Frank On Tuesday 22 July 2003 7:45, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 4:48, Steven Schlansker wrote: > > Kernel options? Where do I set those? > > I set the video driver to the framebuffer one (fbdev I think) but it > > doesn

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
> This does look like a problem: > Xsession: unable to start X session; no /home/steven/.xsession file, no > /home/steven/.Xsession file, no session managers, no window managers, > and no > terminal emulators found. Aborting. Seems that you don't have any X programs installed. I don't know if y

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 24 July 2003 5:00, Steven Schlansker wrote: > Amazingly enough, it launched an xterm when I logged in. It seems that gnome-core doesn't get everything you want. Apt-get these, too: apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-panel gnome-session > Now the only > problem is t

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
> > It seems that gnome-core doesn't get everything you want. Apt-get > > these, too: > > > > apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-panel > > gnome-session > > Got it. OK, the next time you log in, you should get more than just an xterm. > I replaced Xpmac with XFree86, and put t

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
down because it didn't work... Oh > well. > > On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 09:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >>> It seems that gnome-core doesn't get everything you want. Apt-get > >>> these, too: > >>> > >>> apt-get instal

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
> > I'm surprised that XFree86 doesn't downgrade automatically though. > > Why? The X server generally tries to behave as requested, and if that's > not possible, it aborts. Even if you don't like this policy, and > assuming that it knows that the depth causes the problem (I doubt it, > but I have

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy
> > > > I'm missing the bar sign, the @ sign (I had to paste this one from > > > > the address in the header), bracketleft, bracketright, EuroSign and I > > > > don't know what else on the keyboard on X. > > > > > > Same here, on an iBook2 700Mhz. I ended up writing my own ~/.Xmodmap > > > which i

Re: X startup... (was Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys)

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 8:03, Thomas Otto wrote: > Same here, on an iBook2 700Mhz. I ended up writing my own ~/.Xmodmap > which i load when I login. > >>> > >>> It seems everybody does that, instead of fixing the X keymaps... I'm no > >>> better myself. :) > > > > But where *is* this ke

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 6:38, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On 27 Jul 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 05:06, Thomas Otto wrote: > > > > I'm missing the bar sign, the @ sign (I had to paste this one from > > > > the address in the header), bracketleft, bracketright, EuroSign and

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
> I don't think this is the problem (are you sure this file is even used > with your configuration? :). I'm pretty sure, but not positive. The only files that mention 'macintosh_old' (the other option for this line) are keymap.dir, keymap/macintosh, and rules/xfree86. But the geometry is only s

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 31 July 2003 2:27, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 11:25, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > You've already made contact with _the_ Xkb developer Ivan Pascal, > > > he can answer all your questions about it. > > > > I haven't talked with I

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
> > About X, I did found about alt:swapmeta, and understand it is > > obsolete. I also found altwin:meta_win, is that the right one to use? > > Did some experimenting, altwin:meta_win does work, but only > for the first server -- I use two servers in this system, started by > gdm. Any

Re: Some sound doesn't work yet

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
> However, when playing some sounds I just get lots random noise (a bit like > white noise, but less soothing). This happens to the sound-track on mpeg > videos when I'm watching them on Kaboodle or Noatun (the media players from > KDE 3.1). And also when I try to play MOD files (that's an old 80s

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Hmm. That it only works on display :0 seems like a bug. > > Any way to confirm it's a bug? Should I report it to XFree or > Debian? Normally to XFree, I'd think. Unless it's a packaging problem. They're responding pretty well to Bugzilla these days (with enough information). But it h

Re: Some sound doesn't work yet

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
> I'm just messing about at the moment - trying to find ones that work. > Kaboodle and Noatun got installed automatically with KDE 3.. They play MP3s > and wavs fine, but when playing mpeg movies, the sound displays the endian > problem... Different drivers for the different file-types I guess(?)

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
> > So, when you run xev and press the left key, you get > > something like this: > > > > KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x221, > > root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 71770797, (2,148), root:(574,566), > > state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, > >

Re: Some sound doesn't work yet

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
> Do you have a link of a simple setup with alsa dmix ? All web pages I > found are really complicated. Not one that works. I've played with it a bit, but even when I can get it to work, xmms hangs after 3-5 songs. What I've done is put this in my .asoundrc: # use this by specifying plug:mydmi

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 12:41, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:23:21 +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: > >>No, it is not. My point is exactly that xmodmap and altwin:meta_win > >> aren't taking effect in :1, only in :1. > >

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
> Funny, this one caused the Apple/Command key to produce M-s, > that is, Meta-Super. That is so whack. I'm not getting any of the same results you do. > This gives me Alt and Meta as I want them in Emacs, but with > an additional strange twist: M-TAB gets captured by Emacs without c

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
> > >> and ideally also the framebuffer ones? > > > > > > Option "UseFBDev" does that. > > > > OK, I thought about that after hitting the send button. But > > then again, at the moment the X drivers seem to be more developed than > > the kernel ones. I guess eventually the kernel drivers sho

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 3:25, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:45:39 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > The X server always uses the same config file (usually > > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4) unless it's told otherwise. Does it say pc101 or > > macintosh for XkbMod

Re: cannot adjust audio balance with OSS on old iBook

2003-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 19 July 2003 9:34, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Others seeing this? Any ideas where this problem might lie? Because it > > > happens in two audio apps, I imagine it's a lower-level problem. Anyone > > > seeing the same thing with ALSA? > > > &

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-12 Thread Frank Murphy
> Aha, I see. But, hmm, this doesn't seem to be a laptop specific problem, > no? I have to be honest, I don't understand the Mode_switch problem > anyway. When using the stock settings, i.e. > > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > Option "XkbModel" "macintosh"

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Option "XkbSymbols" "de_CH+group(switch)" > > Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but, > uhhm, this has to be the so called make-fun-at-your-co-workers-option, > no? ;) > > But serious, the effect was quite interesting. No keys except the number > keys were w

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
> Having just substituted the original narrow iMac keyboard with an > after-market keyboard, largely because that original keyboard appears > unsupported by X11, I find that the Finnish XFree keymap still fails; > several keys are where they should not be. I tried the normal i386 keymap, > which a

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 10:32, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:34, Andreas Wüst wrote: > > I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the > > difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart from the lacking > > keypad? > > Other lacking keys and dupl

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
> Most importantly, the shift and command keys are duplicate, so the right > shift, command and alt keys are missing. (I know that they're sort of > available with fn, but I doubt that most people consider that a viable > solution for often-used symbols) Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. D

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for > > getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often > > used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a > > standard way? > > Can't think of much else except UAE wanting right ctrl

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 14 August 2003 11:37, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for > > > > getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is >

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
> > What exactly do you mean by that? Same as in Mac OS? It has very > > different requirements for modifiers, doesn't it? > > Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with > the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards > that ALT-G = @, ALT-8

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Your third-party keyboard should be considered an i386 keyboard, and the > > Apple keyboard a mac-usb one. The differences there are the locations of > > the @, which seems to work fine for you. > > Mainly that and that the Apple/Windows keys and Alt keys are reverted, then > the Euro sign app

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
> > Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with > > the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards > > that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {, ALT-6 = ],...) ? > > What about apps which use these combos for something else? I agree that > -G should yield @,

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-15 Thread Frank Murphy
> > And are you > > dpk-reconfigure-ing xserver-xfree86 every time you change? > > Both console and X are configured to use PC / standard / finnish-latin1, > since I have no use for Apple's own mapping. ... > All USB keyboards I currently have are meant to be Mac keyboards (whatever > usbmgr repor

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Murphy
> > By Mac keyboard, you seem to mean USB keyboard. > > No, I mean Mac keyboard, as in keycaps layout. > > > The keys of the third-party keyboards are in the standard PC position, > > right? > > They are in the Mac position, since they are meant as replacements for the > narrow iMac keyboard by Ap

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote: > Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the > left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols > worked. For example, I could get [ (fn+alt+5), but I couldn't get ] > (fn+alt+6). { and } was imposs

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:00, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: > > So, the <>| is between Z and left shift and the §½¶ is left of the 1 on > > all three keyboards, but on the third-party keyboards, pressing §½¶ > > generates the s

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sunday 17 August 2003 10:06, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:00, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > > > > > > I'd be interested to know what the linux scancodes and X keycodes > > > > &

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sunday 17 August 2003 1:19, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > Configurations, logs etc follow: > > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Optio

Supplemental Apple keymap

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
I've attached a small symbol keymap to see what folks here think. To use it, copy it to /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/apple and run `setxkbmap -v 6 -symbols 'macintosh/us+apple(laptop)'` I've also put an 'extended' version for desktop keyboards that have Help instead of Insert and other changes. However

Re: Supplemental Apple keymap

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 2:50, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:21:43 +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: > > Also, there's a macos_alt flavor that will change the Alt key to do > > Mode_switch as is expected outside of the US. > > I

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 4:28, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > Latest news... everything works now, in both servers. Great! > Now I have: > > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "keyboard" >

Re: Supplemental Apple keymap

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 4:31, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:35:42 +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: > > The compose key is Multi_key, which means that to get a > > key, a combination must be hit. (Multi_key+<,> then for 'ç'). Thi

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 7:10, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > Em Seg, 2003-08-18 às 18:11, Michel Dänzer escreveu: > > the keyboard configuration was always identical on > > server startup (unless the logs contained a relevant difference you > > didn't post), the difference was lik

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 1:32, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wüst wrote: > > fn+alt+6: > > > > KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181, > > root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353), > > state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 10:11, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 19:10, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra > > Em Seg, 2003-08-18 às 18:11, Michel Dänzer escreveu: > > > The logs don't lie > > > > I hope that's true in X. I wouldn't hold it as absolute truth, from > > the exper

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:17, Emmanuel Eckard wrote: > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > It seems that we n

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to > Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key), OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works OK as a default. I'll probably add another variati

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to > > > Shift-Mode_switch-key,

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