On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:00, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: > > So, the <>| is between Z and left shift and the §˝¶ is left of the 1 on > > all three keyboards, but on the third-party keyboards, pressing §˝¶ > > generates the symbol from the <>| key (and vice-versa)? > > Precisely.
Wow. That is bizarre. > > > > I'd be interested to know what the linux scancodes and X keycodes are > > > > for these keys on i386 Linux. Are you able to try these on a PC? If > > > > so, try these commands on both: > > > > > > > > # from the console, then press the <>| and §˝¶ keys > > > > $ showkey -s > > > > $ showkey -k > > > > > > See attached files. > > > > OK, I need you to annotate these files. Write in the codes that you get > > depending on which key you press. Otherwise, it's just guesswork for us. > > It's as much guesswork for me. I press them in the order: normal, shift, > altgr. first lesser/greater/pipe, then paragraph/half/degree. Well, you knew the order in which you pressed the keys, I didn't. Try it again, but this time, only press the <>| (no Shift or Alt) and record the output (should be a pressed/released pair). Then do the same for §˝¶. Then send the results here labeled with what keys you pressed. > > > > # Also, in X, press these keys with the keyboard in the xev window > > > > $ xev > > > > > > Haven't found any way to paste the output. :( > > That's not what I meant. the xev output is not scrollable and since xev > takes all crap running thru X, not just keypresses, then i cannot select > the desired output. What X terminal emulator are you using? Is the desired output running off the screen? I don't understand the problem. > > > The console-data mac-usb-fi keymap uses the Left_alt as Mode_switch and > > > makes the left Apple key into a Left_alt, which works very well. > > > > Perhaps it works well for you, but it is very confusing for someone who > > sits at a new keyboard and looks at the keys to find out what they should > > do. > > It works well, from the perspective that it provides nearly the same > physical kjeycaps location as a PC, that is the key just left of spacebar > is used to change console, in conjunction with ctrl. it makes a LOT of > sense. It does make a lot of sense if the desired behavior is to mimic the physical key location of a PC keyboard. But it is at the expense of matching the printed keys. I think that it would be a good option to have the behavior you expect, though. > > OK, so to switch the left Alt key to act like a PC's AltGr key (and let > > you type the third letters on the keys), plus use the left Apple logo key > > as an Alt key, put the following in your .Xmodmap and run `xmodmap > > ~/.Xmodmap`: > > > > keycode 64 = Mode_switch > > keycode 115 = Alt_L Did you try this xmodmap? What was the result? Frank
