Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler

2014-10-30 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
IMHO, Perko chrome plated brass won't hold up in saltwater. Their stuff looks good in the store but pits terribly once on the boat. I'd look for stainless. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Ric

Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Now this really confuses me, when I first went LED on my forward running lights, I replaced them with red and green, and then someone, I think at the boat show, or maybe in one of the boat magazines, said you had to have white coming through a colored lens, so I changed back to white. Now my po

Stus-List In hull side lights

2014-10-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
In hull flush mount side lights are made by Seadog or Whitecap. Seadog make an LED version. http://www.sea-dog.com/categories/lighting/side-lights http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=13496 Dennis C. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < c

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
And then there was the discussion of whether putting LED bulbs in old fixtures would be compliant with USCG regs. Many said no as the whole unit, both bulb and fixture, has to be certified. And that was why for a long period there were so few USCG approved LED running lights; the approval proc

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
If I remember correctly (and this is based on reading only), the Nav lights are Coast Guard certified only if the light and the bulb are certified. If you replace the bulb with anything else (other than what the light was certified with), you, at least theoretically, lose the certification of th

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
And one other thing to consider, as well: although the “teardrop” style sidelights on our older boats are grandfathered in, any navigation lights below deck level are no longer considered by the Coast Guard to comply with regs. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on

Re: Stus-List Running Lights - LED's

2014-10-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
FYI, I've bought LED bulbs from http://store.marinebeam.com/ and have been very satisfied. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, i

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
HI Guys, Can anyone shed any light on what is necessary when a coastguard documented vessel changes hands in Massachusetts? In otherwords both seller and buyer reside in Massachusetts? What are the sales tax requirements? the coastguard site does not seem to mention sales tax in the instructio

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Danny — the Coast Guard has nothing to do with sales tax; that’s strictly a state issue. You’ll need to talk with the Commonwealth of Massachusetts about that. As far as the documentation goes, the seller should be able to initiate the transfer process with the National Vessel Documentation Ce

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachusetts

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Unfortunately they all talk to each other now, so at some point MA will find out from USCG that you bought a boat and want whatever MA state sales tax is on the purchase price. USCG has nothing to do with the tax, other than letting MA know that a transaction happened. So, Pay till it hurts! (

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
HA! I will pass on the RI comment! LOL Yea I just can't remember how it worked when I bought Lolita... I'm actually trying to help a woman that wants to buy my boat with information about the transfer. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List To: Subject:

Stus-List SAVE THE DATE -- 2015 C&C Northeast Rendezvous

2014-10-30 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, Thank you for all your input — I’m proud to announce the dates of the 2015 C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Long Island Sound — September 11-13, 2015 We’ll have a private dock at Cedar Island Marina in Clinton, CT (http://www.cedarislandmarina.com). Discounted rate. Floating docks.

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Running lights that meet the criteria prescribed by the USCG are mandated for original equipment installation by the boat manufacturer. As an owner, you can use any bulb or fixture you chose – with the provision that your choice must meet or exceed the requirements of the ColRegs for visibility.

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The coast guard doesn't collect the taxes; just the documentation change fee and any fees involved in registering the lien if there is a mortgage on the boat. The documentation change fee used to be $90, but I seem to recall it was going up to something like $125. If the sale is through a broke

Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
In Washington state you still need to register your boat and pay the sales tax and annual vessel registration fee. If documented you don't need to display the state number on the bow, but do need a current state sticker on each side of the boat (we put them on either side of the mast). Ymmv st

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Once the USCG documents and/or re-documents (in the case of sale or change of ownership) a vessel for a new owner the documentation team sends notice of the new ownership to the tax commissioner and/tax assessor in the City and/or County of the boat's hailing port. In most cases this is the owner's

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
There is no such animal as a "USCG approved navigation light. The USCG does not have a department that tests products. When a nav light (or a PFD)  is certified, it is certified by the manufacturer to meet or exceed the USCG requirements. When a manufacturer certi

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
You cannot document the vessel until you can provide proof that you have done all the legal stuff and taxes for Massachusetts first. Documentation is an entirely separate operation. In Connecticut, you do state registration and pay the taxes and fees for that befo

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Here is the link: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/ Joel On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bill Bina via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You cannot document the vessel until you can provide proof that you have > done all the legal stuff and taxes for Massachusetts first. Documentation

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I think you just send in the bill of sale: http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/forms/cg1340.pdf Joel On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Here is the link: > > http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/ > > Joel > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bill Bina via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-l

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I have to say, I remember it being a very easy process when I bought Lolita. The broker did it in his office, on his computer in like 15 minutes and said, " write a check for $75..." (or whatever the fee was) Then the cert came in the mail! I can't remember anything else I did in that regard

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
I strongly recommend that as a starting point, you read the entire FAQ before you begin. Guessing is a very risky strategy! :-) http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/nvdcfaq.asp Bill Bina On 10/30/2014 2:39 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Documenting your vessel with USCG is a LEGAL transaction. The doc center wants docs with ORIGINAL signatures. NO copies!!! When I was transferring the doc for Touché. The PO had failed to clear a $62,400 mortgage on the boat which he failed to disclose at purchase. The doc center refused to

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
it seems my part for selling is easy... WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I SELL MY DOCUMENTED VESSEL?When the sale is finalized you may complete a U.S. Coast Guard Bill of Sale (CG-1340) or complete the “Sale or Transfer of Vessel” section on the reverse of the Certificate of Documentation (CG-1270). Documenta

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
Bill, LEDs generate light at a given frequency (color) based on the "impurities" on the chip. Those are carefully controlled impurities; but can not be mixed for wide color spectrum. So a red or green led will be tuned for that color and all the power goes into that color. Most likely their b

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
In addition, the white light gets filtered by the red or green lens, cutting out other frequencies (colors). The power that went into generating the unwanted colors is lost. (Not fully applicable to single 'bulb' tri-color lights, there you have to live with the losses) Leslie. -

Stus-List Overpriced surveyors

2014-10-30 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Roger: Five (5) years later our boat was surveyed again for insurance purposesthe local surveyor was recommended by a fellow C&C listerthe day of the survey, I met him at the boat.when he was checking the deck, coach roof, topsides, etc.he left the boat and went to his car to

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
It does. I think I will now look for a high-lumen Red bulb Thanks Leslie, Bill -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal [mailto:lpaalc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:46 PM To: Bill Coleman; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Lights Bill, LEDs generate

Re: Stus-List One of C&C's initial designs

2014-10-30 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
Hi John, Another interesting mid Cuthbertson and Cassian design, before the creation of C&C Yachts. Big George tells me that *Psyche II*, designed for Bob Grant, a future Commodore of RCYC, was essentially a sister to *Ivanhoe II* which proceeded *Psyche *by a couple of years. *Ivanhoe II *was des

Stus-List delta marine sidney bc

2014-10-30 Thread jimmy kelly via CnC-List
have used Delta marine sidney..excellent service...had major rudder work plus new steering cable...rudder shaft bearings top & bottom redone. new system to lubricate rudder shaft..bottom sanded &repainted csc painthull buffed...a few other small itemsall done on time ...no surprises bil

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Check out http://store.marinebeam.com . I've used them multiple times. Lots of options. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 30, 2014 9:24 AM, "Bill Coleman via CnC-List" wrote: > Now this really confuses me, when I first went LED on my forward running > lights, I replace

Re: Stus-List Running Lights

2014-10-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Strictly speaking, that's not true. You don't need to live with a white LED to replace the bayonet mount white incandescent bulb. When I installed my 5 mile tricolor and anchor light fixture, the guy at the LED supplier (as I said, I think it was Dr.LED) asked if I was using a Hella or an Aqua

Re: Stus-List One of C&C's initial designs

2014-10-30 Thread henry evans via CnC-List
Hi Rob, Your knowledge of the history of C&C designs is truly amazing. I enjoyed reading your tutorial. I never knew Eric was in the kitchen business. After I and a bunch of others left the faltering C&C, I spent 10 years in brick manufacturing which landed me in Des Moines, Iowa. Exiting t

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
As long as the rules are met nothing is specified in any regs about incandescent vs LED. Whether or not an LED will meet the visibility requirements in a fixture originally made for incandescent bulbs is the users responsibility to determine. The manufacturers only test for compliance using their

Re: Stus-List CG Documentation and exchange of ownership in Massachuse tts

2014-10-30 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Danny, A Massachusetts purchaser must pay the Sales and Use Tax by the 20th day of the month following the transaction. See: http://www.mass.gov/dor/all-taxes/sales-and-use/boats-recreational-and-snow- vehicles/ Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot C&C 37+ Bristol, RI

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
I'm guessing from previous discussions that you only need to worry about this USCG reg minutiae is if you have a Captain's license. Right? :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 If you dream, dream big. If you can think of a better world you will have a better world. If pigs could fl

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Dan Mccorison via CnC-List
Your wrong about the lights, as long as it meets coast guard standards for the seen per mile required for the size boat, you could make your own lights to meet the requirement. And you can replace bulbs and it will still meet the requirements. Check with the coast guard.. Sent from my iPhone >

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Dan Mccorison via CnC-List
That saying you can be the manufacture. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:24 PM, "Bill Bina via CnC-List" > wrote: > > There is no such animal as a "USCG approved navigation light. The USCG does > not have a department that tests products. When a nav light (or a PFD) is > certifie

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Dan Mccorison via CnC-List
So you are right on the last part of you statement. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:59 PM, "Dan Mccorison via CnC-List" > wrote: > > That saying you can be the manufacture. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:24 PM, "Bill Bina via CnC-List" >> wrote: >> >> There

Stus-List USCG Navigation Light certification

2014-10-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
§ 183.810 Navigation light certification requirements. (a) Except as provided by paragraph (b) of this section, each navigation light must— (1) Meet the technical standards of the applicable Navigation Rules; (2) Be certified by a laboratory listed by the Coast Guard to the standards of ABYC A-

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The USCG minutia is contained in 33CFR84. You will find it in Annex I of the COLREGS, which you are required to have on your boat if you have a Captain's License. And which you probably have on you boat in any event. 33CFR88.05 says: The operator of each self-propelled vessel 12 meters (39.4')

Re: Stus-List USCG Navigation Light certification

2014-10-30 Thread Dan Mccorison via CnC-List
Thanks Dennis Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:43 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" > wrote: > > § 183.810 Navigation light certification requirements. > (a) Except as provided by paragraph (b) of this section, each navigation > light must— > (1) Meet the technical standards of the app

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-30 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Bravo Rick. Well stated. In my mind this clears things up very nicely. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 P.S. I'm a bit glad to know you sent us this from your iPad, but I don't know why... :) At 09:14 PM 30/10/2014, you wrote: The USCG minutia is contained in 33CFR84. You will fi