So you are right on the last part of you statement.

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> On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:59 PM, "Dan Mccorison via CnC-List" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> That saying you can be the manufacture.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:24 PM, "Bill Bina via CnC-List" 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There is no such animal as a "USCG approved navigation light. The USCG does 
>> not have a department that tests products. When a nav light (or a PFD)  is 
>> certified, it is certified by the manufacturer to meet or exceed the USCG 
>> requirements. When a manufacturer certifies a nav light, it certifies the 
>> whole fixture including the lightbulb within. You cannot legally even 
>> replace the original bulb with one from another source, even if it has the 
>> same specs and part number. It HAS to come from the company that made the 
>> fixture, or the whole       thing becomes not certified. Just the same, in 
>> the highly unlikely event that your nav light becomes central to a case 
>> being heard in admiralty court, you and your lawyer can always provide 
>> evidence that your light meets the coast guard requirements, even though YOU 
>> are the one certifying it. Kerosene lanterns that are over 100 years old can 
>> be perfectly legal as nav lights, even though they pre-date the colregs. 
>> They just have to meet or exceed the USCG requirements for color, 
>> visibility, etc. 
>> 
>> Bill Bina
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/30/2014 9:53 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List wrote:
>>> And then there was the discussion of whether putting LED bulbs in old 
>>> fixtures would be compliant with USCG regs.  Many said no as the whole 
>>> unit, both bulb and fixture, has to be certified.  And that was why for a 
>>> long period there were so few USCG approved LED running lights; the 
>>> approval process was long and involved and many companies did not want to 
>>> expend the $ or effort…
>>>  
>>> So, if an incident were to occur and it was discovered that the whole 
>>> fixture was not in compliance [and lights were relevant to the incident] 
>>> might liability fall differently and insurance companies not be forthcoming 
>>> with any coverage?
>>>  
>>> Any current thoughts? 
>>>  
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
>>> Coleman via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:24 AM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List Running Lights
>>>  
>>> Now this really confuses me, when I first went LED on my forward running 
>>> lights, I replaced them with red and green, and then someone, I think at 
>>> the boat show, or maybe in one of the             boat magazines, said you 
>>> had to have white coming through a colored lens, so I changed back to white.
>>> Now my port running light is broken, and I am in the market, and now I am 
>>> really confused!
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>>  
>>> Bill Coleman
>>> C&C 39
>>>  
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick 
>>> Brass via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:49 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
>>>  
>>> Four or five years ago, I replaced the bulbs in my existing running lights 
>>> and stern lights with LED bulbs. IIRC I got them from Dr. LED and the red 
>>> and green bulbs were about $10 or $11 each, and the bulb for the stern 
>>> light (I think it is called a festoon bulb, a cylinder that has pointy 
>>> contacts on each end) was about $5 or $6.
>>>  
>>> The bulbs in my running lights are a type 90 bulb, which is sort of hard to 
>>> come by anyway. The supplier explained I needed a green bulb behind the 
>>> green lens and a red bulb behind the red lens to get maximum light 
>>> transmission and meet the USCG 2 mile visibility standard. Much of the 
>>> light generated by a white light is apparently absorbed when it goes 
>>> through the green lens.
>>>  
>>> I asked about a 5 mile bulb, but was told that there was no point on a 
>>> light so close to the surface. As part of the             mast rebuild, I 
>>> installed a 5 mile tricolor  light at the top of the mast for use when 
>>> offshore.
>>>  
>>> I recently noticed that the teardrop (I kind of think of them as cat’s eye) 
>>> running lights on my bow are beginning to corrode and look shoddy after 38 
>>> years of service. I, too, wonder if there is a direct replacement for the 
>>> old light fixtures available somewhere.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Rick Brass
>>> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
>>> la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
>>> Washington, NC
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> wwadjo...@aol.com via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:44 PM
>>> To: Rick Brass via CnC-List
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
>>>  
>>> Does anyone have source for replacement lens for our teardrop running 
>>> lights, circa 1981?  Orin alternative, experience with replacements(led) I 
>>> see on internet?
>>> Bill Walker
>>> Evening Star
>>> CnC 36
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>  
>>> 
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