Bravo Rick.
Well stated. In my mind this clears things up very nicely.
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
P.S. I'm a bit glad to know you sent us this from
your iPad, but I don't know why... :)
At 09:14 PM 30/10/2014, you wrote:
The USCG minutia is contained in 33CFR84. You
will find it in Annex I of the COLREGS, which
you are required to have on your boat if you
have a Captain's License. And which you probably have on you boat in any event.
33CFR88.05 says: The operator of each
self-propelled vessel 12 meters (39.4') or more
in length shall carry on board and maintain for
ready reference a copy of the Inland Navigation Rules.
As has been pointed out before, a navigation
light is certified by the light manufacturer to
comply with the USCG requirements. IF YOU
MANUFACTURE A BOAT FOR SALE IN THE USA YOU MAY
ONLY USE A CERTIFIED LIGHT ASSEMBLY. If you are
a boat owner, or building a boat for your own
use, you can use any lighting device or bulb you
chose, provided that the lights meet the
requirements of COLREGS RULE 22 (visibility) and RULE 23 (light patterns).
Raise your hand if you have one of the Davis LED
anchor lights that plug into a cigarette
lighter, or a battery operated Perko anchor
light you keep as a backup. Both meet COLREGS 22
for boats less than 39 feet, but neither are
certified by the manufacturer. At least mine aren't marked as certified.
I can find no direct reference to the nav lights
required in 46CFR Subchapter C covering
uninspected passenger vessels of less than 100
tons carrying 6 or fewer passengers, other than
the requirement to comply with COLREGS 22 & 23.
For small inspected passenger vessels up to 100
tons carrying 100 or fewer passengers, 46CFR
Subchapter T paragraph 183.420 says: All vessels
must have navigation lights that are in
compliance with the applicable sections of the
International and Inland Navigation rules,
except that a vessel of more than 198 meters
(65') in length must also have navigation lights
that meet UL 1104 "Standards for Marine
Navigation Lights" or other standard specified by the Commandant.
Bottom line is that as a Captain you must comply
with the light visibility and patterns specified
in the COLREGS, and you must have a copy of the current COLREGS aboard.
If you don't have a captain's license and you
boat is less than 12 meters you must comply with the COLREGS.
And if the boat is over 12 meters you need to
comply and carry a copy of the COLREGS.
I could not find anything in the 2000+ pages of
Federal Regulation I got while obtaining my
Masters License that indicates you need to use a
certified light, use the same type of bulb, or
buy the same bulb used in building your boat -
but you must comply with COLREGS 22&23.
Rick Brass
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 30, 2014, at 21:38, Russ & Melody via
CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I'm guessing from previous discussions that you
only need to worry about this USCG reg minutiae
is if you have a Captain's license. Right?
:)
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
If you dream, dream big.
If you can think of a better world you will have a better world.
If pigs could fly imagine how good their wings would taste...
At 06:53 AM 30/10/2014, you wrote:
And then there was the discussion of whether
putting LED bulbs in old fixtures would be
compliant with USCG regs.Ã Many said no as
the whole unit, both bulb and fixture, has to
be certified.Ã And that was why for a long
period there were so few USCG approved LED
running lights; the approval process was long
and involved and many companies did not want to expend the $ or effort
So, if an incident were to occur and it was
discovered that the whole fixture was not in
compliance [and lights were relevant to the
incident] might liability fall differently and
insurance companies not be forthcoming with any coverage?
Any current thoughts?Ã
From: CnC-List [
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:24 AM
To: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Running Lights
Now this really confuses me, when I first went
LED on my forward running lights, I replaced
them with red and green, and then someone, I
think at the boat show, or maybe in one of the
boat magazines, said you had to have white
coming through a colored lens, so I changed back to white.
Now my port running light is broken, and I am
in the market, and now I am really confused!
Regards,
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
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