Re: Stus-List Head Trouble (redux)

ryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble (redux) Ick... I replaced a joker valve on Bojangles last week that was about half as bad as that, and that was still pretty gross. (I don't know why they're called joker valves... Whenever I'm dealing with them, i

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble (redux)

Ick... I replaced a joker valve on Bojangles last week that was about half as bad as that, and that was still pretty gross. (I don't know why they're called joker valves... Whenever I'm dealing with them, it's never funny) Cheers Colin On 3/30/13, Wally Bryant wrote: > Just to revisit an thre

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble (redux)

Just to revisit an thread from six months ago. Check out this picture: This isn't my boat, but someone else had head problems and pulled this hose out of the boat. I've never seen it this bad. The hose was 8 years old. I didn't mention this before

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Nigel Calder's "Boatowner's Mechanical and Electical Manual" has a good section on recommended head plumbing arrangements. Agree it sounds like joker valve is one of the problems but addition of a vented discharge loop would solve the unending supply of blackwater siphoning back through the jo

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

f Gary Russell Sent: September 15, 2012 8:26 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble Hi Alex, I haven't seen any evidence that there was a tank on Expresso between the hull and the liner. Perhaps that was an option or the first owner did it. The idea of some sort of

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Hi Alex, I haven't seen any evidence that there was a tank on Expresso between the hull and the liner. Perhaps that was an option or the first owner did it. The idea of some sort of forced ventilation is a good idea. I'm not sure I like the idea of going through the deck, however. There wa

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

HI Gary and Dwight! As I understand it, and as evidenced by my forensics when I began rebuilding the thing, the original 35-II had a small tank port side between the cabin liner and the hull. In mine there is an original through hull up there. The Waste deck fill to pump out was originally lab

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Bay, NS > -- > > *From:* cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto: > cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Russell > *Sent:* September 14, 2012 12:34 PM > *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com > ** > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

st-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell Sent: September 14, 2012 12:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble I don't have a diagram, but I can try to work something up. It may take me a little while though. Perhaps a better description will work.

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble (Joel Aronson)

S) 10. Re: Head Trouble (Gary Russell) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:35:37 -0400 From: Joel Aronson To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble Message-ID: <-3072003660171851704@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

I don't have a diagram, but I can try to work something up. It may take me a little while though. Perhaps a better description will work. Let's start at the sea water inlet and work through the system. 1. Raw water inlet: The raw water input comes from the seacock and goes up through a "tee"

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Russ, There have been times when double rate wasn't enough.  :( Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Russ & Melody >To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:03 PM >Subjec

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

tucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Gary Russell To: cnc-list Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 5:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble Hi Bob, When I first bought Expresso in 1998 she had a small bladder tank for the head. Ever since, it has been my mission to build a s

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Oh, swell! Now you have opened the flood gates of really bad jokes! Gary On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Makes sense, but I am truly disappointed that we have only had one toilet > joke in this entire thread! > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Ga

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Hi Bob, When I first bought Expresso in 1998 she had a small bladder tank for the head. Ever since, it has been my mission to build a system that would work properly; that is, no leaks, no smell and can't syphon when the uninitiated left a valve in the wrong state. After many attempts and ch

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

ou're just rebuilding a problem. Buy a replacement pump assembly!!! Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville,LA From: "cenel...@aol.com" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble The proposed solutions will probably

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Crappy topic:( Rich K On 2012-09-13, at 16:35, Joel Aronson wrote: > Makes sense, but I am truly disappointed that we have only had one toilet > joke in this entire thread! > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Gary Russell wrote: > >> There is another possibility

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

; 35-1 #83 Mandeville,LA > > From: "cenel...@aol.com" >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:07 AM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble > > >The proposed solutions will probably do the trick. However, having

Stus-List Head Trouble

Gary: It's been a long day, and maybe, the effects an adult beverage has provided me with an induced state of brilliance, so after reading your description of your on board 'plumbing system', to avoid unweIcomed effluent backup in the head, I completely understand.quite brilliant really!

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Makes sense, but I am truly disappointed that we have only had one toilet joke in this entire thread! Joel Sent from my iPad On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Gary Russell wrote: There is another possibility to consider. In the case of my boat there were times when the level of the effluent in the

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

There is another possibility to consider. In the case of my boat there were times when the level of the effluent in the tank was above the bowl in the tank. In my case the tank is transverse in the boat (head on the port side) and when on starboard tack the fitting on the port side of the tank is

Stus-List Head Trouble/ ATN

Steve, Got to be Joker valve as others suggested. Once a year and carry a spare. At the risk of starting a debate- also be sure that you are using RV TP (or buy Scot's 'Septic Tank' Safe for the equivalent but cheaper). It was an easier solution than re-training the admiral. The incidents have dim

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

.@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Monty Schumpert Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble I went the same route with the new Jabsco locking pump assembly, which solved the problem. I agree with o

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

illed from the tank until the tank level is low enough, assuming you're taking water out of the bowl. Cheers, Steve Hood S/V Diamond Girl C&C 34 Lions Head ON -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:36:14 -0400 From: "Len Mitchell" To: Subject

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

Yup, it's not just salt, but an extraordinary amount of excess minerals are excreted through the kidneys (think about kidney stones,) and can build up in the hoses and the tank as well. For the last couple of years I have done an annual job of flushing a bunch of fresh water through the system

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

unhose > the old pump assy, pitch it, rebolt/rehose the new one in about 15 minutes. > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > C&C 36 XL/kcb > Greenville, NC > cenel...@aol.com > -Original Message- > From: Hoyt, Mike > To: cnc-list > Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

nutes. Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcb Greenville, NC cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Hoyt, Mike To: cnc-list Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 8:47 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble Steve We have had a similar problem on the 115 - also a Jabsco manual flush hea

Stus-List Head Trouble

Steve, Crappy Job! I had black water returning to the head on my previous 1981 36KCB and current boat. Salt from urine crystallizes on your joker valve and the joker valve leaks back. Ideally we are supposed to flush clean water thru but it never happens on the Great Lakes when you are trying to

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Head Trouble I've had this disgusting problem a few times and attributed it to someone over-flushing the head, but I think there's a problem with

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

; > -Original Message- > From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:00 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Head Trouble > > I've had this disgusting

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

east be cleaner water! Mike -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Head Trouble I've had this disgusting prob

Re: Stus-List Head Trouble

cleaner water! Mike -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Head Trouble I've had this disgusting problem a few time

Stus-List Head Trouble

I've had this disgusting problem a few times and attributed it to someone over-flushing the head, but I think there's a problem with the head: After a few days post-pump-out the head has back filled with blackwater while sailing and once while at anchor. First few times this happened I chalked it