Russ,

There have been times when double rate wasn't enough.  :(

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>________________________________
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
>To: Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble
> 
>
>Hi Dennis,
>A little suggestive story:
>         Many years
ago, during a winter cruise of some San Juan Islands, at a house social
on Lopez Island I met a ship's husband of the area . Most of his work was
in Friday Harbour for absentee owners. (He lived aboard a large old tug
with a gorgeous Atlas engine, but that's another story.)
>Anyhow, long story made short, at the time he charged $25 per hour except
for time on toilet or sewage systems. That was charged at double time. 
>He may have heard grumbling from the owners about the rate but he still
ended up doing the work.
>
>         Cheers,
Russ
>        Sweet 35 mk-1
>east Vancouver Island
>
>At 05:26 PM 13/09/2012, you wrote:
>
>Smart move.  I never
rebuild a head.  I tell customers I will install a new pump
assembly.  A few $$ more for the part but less of my billable
hours.
>>
>>If the cylinder of your pump is scores, you're just rebuilding a
problem.  Buy a replacement pump assembly!!!
>>
>>Dennis C.
>>Touche' 35-1 #83
>>Mandeville,LA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "cenel...@aol.com"
<cenel...@aol.com>
>>
>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:07 AM
>>
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble
>>
>>
>>The proposed solutions will probably do the
trick. However, having suffered the same problem with my jabasco unit,
now + 15 years old with several rebuilds, 
>>
>>I bought the jabasco kit with a new 'locking' pump assembly.
>>
>> 
>>
>>With it is in the locked position, where it stays unless used, no
water can return from anywhere back to the bowl.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Problem solved for about the cost of he usual rebuild kit cost and it
hasn't returned in the 3-4 years since I replaced it.
>>
>> 
>>
>>The bolts match exactly so you unbolt/unhose
>>
>>the old pump assy, pitch it, rebolt/rehose the new one in about 15
minutes.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Charlie Nelson
>>
>>Water Phantom
>>
>>C&C 36 XL/kcb
>>
>>Greenville, NC
>>
>>cenel...@aol.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
>>
>>To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>
>>Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 8:47 am
>>
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Trouble
>>
>>
>> 
>>Steve
>>
>>
>>We have had a similar problem on the 115 - also a Jabsco manual
flush
>>
>>head.  In our case the water was backflowing from the discharge
hose
>>
>>into the bowl.  Our solution was to over pump for approx 20
seconds on
>>
>>wet flush before pumping on dry flush.  That way the backflow
would at
>>
>>least be cleaner water!
>>
>>
>>Mike 
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>
>>[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH
>>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:00 AM
>>
>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>>Subject: Stus-List Head Trouble
>>
>>
>>I've had this disgusting problem a few times and attributed it
to
>>
>>someone
>>
>>over-flushing the head, but I think there's a problem with the
head:
>>
>>
>>After a few days post-pump-out the head has back filled with
blackwater
>>
>>while sailing and once while at anchor.
>>
>>First few times this happened I chalked it up to a guest
over-flushing,
>>
>>got
>>
>>it pumped and went on my way.
>>
>>
>>The Jabsco head is 3 years old. The system was completely redone
by
>>
>>previous
>>
>>owner.
>>
>>It was a very well done job, no mickey mouse stuff on the surface,
all
>>
>>new
>>
>>hoses and recommissioned blackwater tank.
>>
>>I checked the Jabsco manual and all appears to be piped
correctly.
>>
>>
>>The last trip was the last straw. I had to go below every 10 minutes
and
>>
>>scoop some very disgusting water out of the bowl and pour down
sink
>>
>>drain
>>
>>otherwise it would have overflowed. After a couple of hours of this
the
>>
>>shine wears off, believe me.
>>
>>
>>So - my plan is to take out the pump/valve assembly and look for
a
>>
>>failed
>>
>>seal.
>>
>>Should the head discharge hose-to-tank have a check valve in it? I
think
>>
>>not
>>
>>because it would become fouled with solids.
>>
>>I'm aware of principles of siphoning but short of drawing a diagram
I
>>
>>don't
>>
>>think siphoning is the problem.
>>
>>I can't think of anything besides a failed seal.
>>
>>
>>Help!
>>
>>
>>
>>Steve Hood
>>
>>S/V Diamond Girl
>>
>>C&C 34
>>
>>Lions Head ON
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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