, 2013 12:39
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Remove the inspection panel above the nav station, and lay a paper towel under any wiring in the area as far forward of the inspection panel as you can reach. The leak can be anywhere forward of where it appears, before it works
m: Alan Bergen [mailto:alan-at-h...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:39
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> Remove the inspection panel above the nav station, and lay a paper towel
> under any wiring in the area as far forward of the i
: Alan Bergen [mailto:alan-at-h...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:39
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Remove the inspection panel above the nav station, and lay a paper towel under
any wiring in the area as far forward of the inspection panel as you can reach
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f Of dwight
veinot
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
I am betting on the companion way slide hatch
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hi Erik
I would tighten it while in the water, it is so unlikely to
result in a bad outcome that I don't see a reason why you
wouldn't try it.
re to tighten
things up a bit.
Neil
1982 C&C32 FoxFire
Worton Creek, MD/
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Aronson
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
If you have the heavy duty blue paper
If you have the heavy duty blue paper towel it might be easier to see the
source than if you use a towel. you could put one above the winch access
panel too to see if it is the companionway.
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Alan Bergen wrote:
> Remove the inspection panel above the nav station
Remove the inspection panel above the nav station, and lay a paper towel under
any wiring in the area as far forward of the inspection panel as you can reach.
The leak can be anywhere forward of where it appears, before it works its way
to where you think it might be. The leak could be from the
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veinot
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
I am betting on the companion way slide hatch
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Marg
le en route.
Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
I am betting on the companion way slide hatch
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
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To: Erik Hillenmeyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hi Erik
I would tighten it while in the water, it is so unlikely to result in a
bad outcome that I don't see a reason why you wouldn't try it.
I remain baffled though as to the path the water is taking. A leak a
Graham Collins [mailto:cnclistforw...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 20:25
> To: Erik Hillenmeyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
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> Hi Erik
> I would tighten it while in the water, it is so unlikely to result in a
> bad outcome that I don
ture...it's a mystery.
-Keith
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From: Graham Collins [mailto:cnclistforw...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 20:25
To: Erik Hillenmeyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hi Erik
I would tighten it while in the water, it is so unlikely to resul
t: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 17:25
To: Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Keith,
The tanks are empty, I never filled them. The water is crystal clear
(thanks to Zebra mussels) Lake Michigan water - no fuel, oil, etc.
I am not completely convinc
ater - I
>cannot get a conclusive answer on this. Some sources say do it and some say
>never. I've seen it argued on several forums, but haven't formed my own
>opinion yet...
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>Thanks,
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>Erik
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>From: "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Collins
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:25 PM
To: Erik Hillenmeyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hi Erik
I would tighten it while in the water, it is so unlikely to resul
on yet...
Thanks,
Erik
*From:* "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR"
*To:* Erik Hillenmeyer ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:51 PM
*Subject:* RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Erik,
I've been mulling over your situation.
Here's my thoughts:
You indicate that i
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To: Erik Hillenmeyer ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Erik,
I've been mulling over your situation.
Here's my thoughts:
You indicate that it seems like the water is originating from somewhere
*inside* the stringer. We know
If the boat is leaking and you suspect
the keel needs tightening to stop the leak, don't worry about the
fact that it is in the water. Just tighten them and get that leak
stopped. You can always properly loosen and re-tighten them to
spec at the end of the season
gued on several forums, but haven't formed my own
opinion yet...
Thanks,
Erik
From: "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR"
To: Erik Hillenmeyer ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Eri
com]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 17:03
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hello,
Been following on here for a while but never posted.
I have a new-to-me 1984 C&C 35 MKIII on Lake Michigan. When we launched
six days ago I noticed a large amount of water in the bilge when I
or me :-)
From: Rick Taillieu
To: 'Erik Hillenmeyer' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Erik,
I don’t know what the 35 Mk3 bilge looks like or how deep it is, but is it
possible that there was a “Garboard Plug”
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Erik
Hillenmeyer
Sent: May-21-13 4:25 PM
To: Hoyt, Mike; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
The leaks appears to be directly underneath the stringer. in fact, if you
stick your finger down in the limber hol
cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Erik:
Despite Chuck's expertise, I don't recommend using 5200, or even doing the
repair as he suggests. I did a R&R of my keel,
the bilge
from the ports/grab rails etc.
Jonathan
Indigo 35/3 Southport CT
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:12 PM
To: Erik Hillenmeyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Erik,
Put
that
> foam I don't think I'm going to see the actual leak - unless anyone has some
> suggestions.
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> From: "Hoyt, Mike"
> To: Erik Hillenmeyer ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Stus-L
unless anyone has some
suggestions.
From: "Hoyt, Mike"
To: Erik Hillenmeyer ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
If you are having the volume of water you have described
accumulating each day
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 07:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Erik Hillenmeyer
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 L
] On Behalf Of Erik
Hillenmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:00 PM
To: dwight veinot; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
I've definitely ruled that out and yes, the stern section is bone dry.
Also water tanks were never filled and all thru hulls appear perfectly
sealed.
er ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hi Erik,
Since the boat was in storage for 18 months you have to ask the following
questions. How was she stored, on her own cradle or jack stands. On solid
surface or ground with s
Duh! You're in Chicago. No salt!
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-05-21, at 13:27, Knowles Rich wrote:
Have you stuck your finger in and tasted it to make sure it's sea water? It
might be rainwater coming down the mast.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-05-21, at 11:59, E
t: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Are you sure it’s not the prop shaft stuffing box that is leaking? You said
the stern section was dry which would indicate it’s not the stuffing box but
just saying in case. Sometimes a stuffing box will take time in the wa
.
Tom
Escape
C&C 33-2
Hammond Indiana
From: Erik Hillenmeyer
To: dwight veinot ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
I've definitely ruled that out and yes, the stern section
icago, IL
From: dwight veinot
To: 'Erik Hillenmeyer' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Are you sure it’s not the prop
shaft stuffing box that is leaking? You said the stern section
&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Erik
Hillenmeyer
Sent: May 21, 2013 11:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
The previous owner says the bilge was dry the last
c-list@cnc-list.com"
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Erik, I have just spent a large number of boat bucks replacing the tabbing in
the keel stub and repairing wet core above the stub. We also had a recurring
crack at the rear of the keel that I hope is
The previous owner says the bilge was dry the last season he had it in the
water. I know him well and trust him that he doesn't recall a grouding either.
I know I haven't grounded it in the week I've had it in the water... I'm
wondering what happened in those 18 months on the hard to create l
Erik, I have just spent a large number of boat bucks replacing the tabbing in
the keel stub and repairing wet core above the stub. We also had a recurring
crack at the rear of the keel that I hope is finally dealt with, but was
seeping water (more slowly than yours). If there was nothing obvio
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> *To:* Joel Aronson
> *Cc:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1
la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC
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erik_hawk...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:52 PM
To: Joel Aronson
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Th
Erik:
Despite Chuck's expertise, I don't recommend using 5200, or even doing the
repair as he suggests. I did a R&R of my keel, several years ago, and never had
my problem return. My problem? When the boat was hauled, the keel was loose, so
loose that I could move it. Upon removing the keel, w
Aronson
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Thanks for the welcome!
Any issue with tightening in the water? I've read conflicting thoughts on the
subject. I'm also hoping based on where the leak is missing the one bolt will
be okay until end of season. Th
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Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:51:56 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Thanks for the welcome!
Any issue with tightening in the water? I've read conflicting thoughts on the
subject. I'm also hoping based on where the leak is missing the one bolt will
Thanks for the welcome!
Any issue with tightening in the water? I've read conflicting thoughts on the
subject. I'm also hoping based on where the leak is missing the one bolt will
be okay until end of season. The PO tells me they were tightened 3 or 4 years
ago and rebedded 15 years ago. I wa
I don't have an automatic pump! Can't believe that boat is still
afloat, I better go check! :-)
The only automatic pump I have is in my basement, and that damn thing
keeps jamming on sawdust.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
On 2013-05-20 7:08 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
Erik,
Welc
list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Erik
Hillenmeyer
Sent: May 20, 2013 6:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35-3 Leak
Hello,
Been following on here for a while but never posted.
I have a new-to-me 1984 C&C 35 MKIII on Lake Michigan. When we launched six
days ag
Erik,
Welcome!
Was the keel joint tight before the boat was launched?
There is a keel bolt under the mast, but you can reach the others and it
sounds like the leak is aft of the mast.
Can't believe there was no automatic pump!
Joel
Sent from my iPad
On May 20, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Erik Hillenmeyer
Hello,
Been following on here for a while but never posted.
I have a new-to-me 1984 C&C 35 MKIII on Lake Michigan. When we launched six
days ago I noticed a large amount of water in the bilge when I would go to the
boat. Approximately 2.5 gallons every 24 hours. I have narrowed the leak do
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