Thanks for all the input guys. I remain baffled too. What are thoughts on this: the leak is in the keel bolt just aft of the stringer, instead of coming through the bolt it's found a void in the core and into the stringer? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hi Erik >I would tighten it while in the water, it is so unlikely to result in a bad >outcome that I don't see a reason why you wouldn't try it. > >I remain baffled though as to the path the water is taking. A leak at the >keel stub to lead joint should come in at a bolt. For it to get up under that >stringer is a mystery to me (but then I have a leak into my hanging locker >that I am unable to find, so what do I know???). > >Good luck! >Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-05-22 6:24 PM, Erik >Hillenmeyer wrote: > >Keith, > > > >The tanks are empty, I never filled them. The water is crystal clear (thanks >to Zebra mussels) Lake Michigan water - no fuel, oil, etc. > > > >I am not completely convinced it isn't finding it's way to the stringer from >elsewhere, but I just can't prove it. I've removed all the floor boards and >the the thing is just bone dry everywhere except inside that limber hole. in >fact, if i stick my finger in the cutout in the stringer for the bilge hose, >which is several inches to port of the limber hole it is dry, so it almost has >to be coming from below. > > > >My shower pump was straight forward, hose from the shower sump to a pump under >the sink and up to a thru hull at the toe rail. I disabled this yesterday >because i installed an automatic bilge pump and float switch to keep up with >the water and the only above the water line thru hull available was the shower >drain pump - i don't use it anyway. In off season I'll maybe add a thru hull >and reattach it. > > > >Thanks for the input! Any opinion on tightening keel bolts in the water - I >cannot get a conclusive answer on this. Some sources say do it and some say >never. I've seen it argued on several forums, but haven't formed my own >opinion yet... > > > >Thanks, > > > >Erik > > >From: "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR" <keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> >To: Erik Hillenmeyer <erik_hawk...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:51 PM >Subject: RE: Stus-List 35-3 Leak > > >Erik, > >I've been mulling over your situation. > >Here's my thoughts: > >You indicate that it seems like the water is originating from somewhere >*inside* the stringer. We know that there are no keel bolts in there, >nor are there any openings to the ocean there...and it's in front of the >last keel bolt, so it seems unlikely (to me) that it's a grounding >problem. >So...where would water come from *inside* the stringer? > >On my 35-3, they've run all the water hoses/pipes thru large holes in >the stringers, drilled maybe 1" or so down from the top. >If one of those pipes has a weeping leak where it passes over the >perhaps sharp edge of the hole drilled, it could seem like the water is >originating in there. Then gravity just makes the water tanks drip into >the bilge. >It's been a few days...at 2.5 gallons a day, your water tanks should be >noticeably low if this was the source. To test, put two different food >colors (or two different liquors) in the tanks, and close the valves at >the water pump so they aren't cross-connected, then wait it out. What >color/taste is the bilge? > >Another possibility along these lines is an extra bilge pump pickup...on >my 35-3 there is a shower sump pump for the shower in the head. But >somewhere along the line (maybe at the factory) they put a 3-way valve >in, then ran a hose thru the bilge to a point between the mast and >engine, and there is a pickup there too. (it's my "aft" bilge pump >pickup) >If this was deranged like above (leaky hose/fitting), or if there was >some sort of siphon being set up from the shower to the bilge via the >overboard lines? It's a stretch...but maybe. > >-Keith Morgenstern >C&C 35-3 cb > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Erik Hillenmeyer [mailto:erik_hawk...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 17:03 >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Subject: Stus-List 35-3 Leak > >Hello, > >Been following on here for a while but never posted. > >I have a new-to-me 1984 C&C 35 MKIII on Lake Michigan. When we launched >six days ago I noticed a large amount of water in the bilge when I would >go to the boat. Approximately 2.5 gallons every 24 hours. I have >narrowed the leak down to what I assume is a hull/keel joint issue. > >After checking all the obvious sources for this much water (thru hull, >tanks, etc, etc) I finally noticed that all the water was coming from a >limber hole in the stringer just forward of the aft most keel bolt. The >water is NOTcoming out this limber hole because it's flowing through >there from a higher point in the bilge - it's flooding up from >underneath the stringer. The bilge area aft of this stringer is dusty >dry and I've elminated all other sources of water. > >The first thing I'm in the process of doing is installing an automatic >bilge pump and float switch (PO never had one). > >I also plan on tightening the keel bolts as soon as I get access to a >torque wrench and an extension that can reach the 2 feet to the deepest >part of the sump where one of the keel bolts is located. I'm hoping >this is some help in stopping or reducing the leak. The sailing season >is very short here and hauling out now would cost us a big chunk of >sailing, so I'm willing to try anything to stay in. > >I've thrown this out on some other blogs, but wanted to know if other >C&C owners have experienced this issue or have some solutions for >getting her through the season. > >Thanks, > >Erik > > > >_______________________________________________ This List is provided by the >C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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