Stus-List Stiff throttle and belt recommendations for Yamar 2GM20 on cnc 30 mkII

2013-12-02 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Our new to us 30-2 started sounding a bit hollow and throwing some stream out of exist the other night so I opened the water pump Sunday and found this: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8N3E0cmJrYWwyTlE/edit?usp=docslist_api Only one of the fins appeared to be completely in tact So my qu

Stus-List Halyard Tension

2013-12-02 Thread sam.c.salter
Reading the tread about halyards, and an earlier post about furlers reminded me to ask a question of you racers out there: - I don’t race - only because there’s no-one racing on our lake. Although I have done a couple of Swiftsures. But I like passing boats and hate it when boats pass me! My

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Touche'

2013-12-02 Thread J.P.
Winterizing Gabriela 1) Try to figure out if it is going to snow or be 60 degrees - no forecast, map, radar, or local weather is ever correct in our part of the world. 2) Get tired of trying to figure out the weather and turn on the heater in the cabin and watch a football game 3)

Re: Stus-List Barient# 10 winch

2013-12-02 Thread Sylvain Laplante
If you want to wait until spring, I will have 2 1975 Barient #10, they look ok although the chrome is a bit "tired". I think the bearing on 1 of them is shot( noisy ) but pawl/springs are ok. I bought 2 Lewmar #8 to replace them. Sylvain C&C27MkIII From: Joh

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Touche'

2013-12-02 Thread bobmor99 .
Winterizing Ox: 1) Discharge lightning capacitors into battery bank. 2) Clean headliner while wondering what lurks between it and the deck. 3) Consider projects that I might get around to starting now that it's not so damned hot. 4) Top the tank with ethanol-free gas (Ox has an A4). 5) Go sailing

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread Chuck S
Hey Dennis, Godfrey Zincs look interesting. Good idea and nice quality product, though the price is scary. A zinc for my 1 1/8" shaft costs $43 before shipping. http://store-bbba2.mybigcommerce.com/godfrey-premium-streamlined-zincs/ I'll stick w my $7 zincs from below, and try the TefGel trick

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-02 Thread dreuge
I guess don't follow the adage of 10 aloft equals a man on the rail. While the mast to rail distance is a factor of 10, there is a sin(heel) factor for the aloft weight whereas it is a cos(heel) for the rail. That is, at zero heel any weight aloft is equal to zero on the rail. At 20 degrees

Re: Stus-List Barient# 10 winch

2013-12-02 Thread John Russo
Paul, Thanks for the response. The16 is a bit too big for the job and the space available but I will keep it in mind for any future applications. I will soon have a couple of Barient 22's on my hands that I am replacing with Lewmar ST 40 EVO winches. John From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread Dennis C.
Once you sand the shaft bright and apply the zinc, TefGel will protect the contact area from corrosion thus maintaining conductance between the shaft and zinc contact.  If you don't have good conductance between the zinc and shaft at the onset, TefGel won't help.  As in most boat work, preparati

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread Chuck S
Hi David, Someone suggested using TefGel to ensure a better electrical bond between the zinc and the prop shaft. If it is bonded well, the zincs might all wear evenly? Never tried that. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "David Knecht" To: "

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread jtsails
Dwight, Our sailing styles sound very much alike, most of my time nowadays is spent cruising around with the wife and kids but I did spend I lot of time racing and working all the different parts of the boats. The bottom line is that I would not consider putting a wire halyard on my boat, the te

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread jtsails
There are a lot of properties to look at when selecting the best material for our halyards. The most obvious are stretch and strength. Creep, abrasion resistance, ease of splicing, weight, and UV resistance are all important to. We should also consider how we use the halyard. A halyard for a rol

Re: Stus-List halyards again wire-to-rope

2013-12-02 Thread Mark G
Let me reiterate the point Dwight is making about getting the length at the wire end right. You don't want the wire-to-rope splice going around the sheave at the top of the mast and you don't want it going around a mast-mounted winch. The splice is stiff and doesn't seem to have the same ben

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-12-02 Thread dwight
Most oils do that, "lubricate and protect" _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen Sent: December 2, 2013 7:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Rick, Fogging oil is also useful for fogging tools and equi

Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - mast rake

2013-12-02 Thread dwight
Ron That sounds about right from my experience, but I like the way the boat works with a slightly smaller headsail _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker Sent: December 2, 2013 7:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-12-02 Thread Jake Brodersen
Rick, Fogging oil is also useful for fogging tools and equipment for storage. In the military we used a product called PLS in the machine shop and the armory. It lubricates and protects. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton Va cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread dwight
Right.I never go up there except when on the hook and neither does anyone else.we carry a furling 135 and a main sail, both of them pretty good performance sails but we don't race and we don't need to do headsail changes on the fly to have fun and the rest of my numerous sails stay in the basement.

Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - mast rake

2013-12-02 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
The manual for my 30 indicates the rake should be 9in measured at the gooseneck.  I have a 1973 vintage. I've sailed in 15kt with gusts and the 160 up and a bubble in half the main, traveler down, with no problems with weather helm until the puffs hit.  Granted the rail was almost kissing the wa

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread jtsails
Dwight, you obviously don't work on the pointy end of the boat! Whoever does that on your boat is handling wire, and fish hooks suck James S/V Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC - Original Message - From: dwight To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:41 PM

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Dennis C.
Most often, halyard damage occurs at or near the eye splice at the working end.  When buying halyards, particularly hi-tech halyards, I buy them 10-15 feet extra long so I can end for end them.  If the byte end hasn't been loaded, you can usually splice an eye in it.  Over the years, I truly believ

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread dwight
I never get the wire on my hands, so I don't worry about fish hooks.you need to adjust length at the wire end to make that right.my boat was delivered with rope to wire about 40 years ago.the sheaves don't mind some new wire.my lines don't chew on each other.if they did I would change something.if

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread niall buckley
Hi David, I switched to spectra for both genoa halyards and the main halyard. They are expensive, they are much nicer on the hands and there is no noticeable stretch. The weight aloft does make a differenceI don't remember the numbers but 10 lbs aloft equals one man on the rail.or somethin

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Andrew Burton
Good sailmaker, Alan! Bet you wouldn't go anywhere else for a sail, now. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Dec 2, 2013, at 15:34, Alan Bergen wrote: > Many years ago, when I

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Alan Bergen
Many years ago, when I wasn't winning races with my first boat, I spoke with my sailmaker about getting a new sail. Instead of selling me a new sail, he suggested I work on my crew work, and only consider getting a new sail when I'm losing races by seconds. Dave, are you losing races by seconds?

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Joel Aronson
Marek, You are correct about the length! I was thinking of the overall length, not the hoisted length. Its Monday. My 35/3 has about a 45 foot mast, so with the run to the clutch we are talking about 55 feet. My VPC probably stretches no more than 4 inches as I load it. Dyneema does not actually

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Josh Muckley
Rope is lighter, DIY, easier on the hand, easier on the sheaves, rope doesn't get fish hooks and won't chew on the other lines as bad. Often times the rope will float depending on the material and may be hydrophobic. You can also flip rope end for end when it starts to get worn or simply freshen

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Joel, not exactly. I don’t know what kind of masts you guys have, but probably not in the 100 ft range. The halyard stretches only on the length of the mast plus the line from the mast to the clutch (if you run it to the cockpit). Most of the boats we talk about here have masts in the 40-45 ft

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread dwight veinot
Path of least resistance for current flow is the shortest path, closest one to the prop should go first Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: > I generally put two identical zincs on our prop shaft. When I hauled

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread Tim Goodyear
I generally put two identical zincs on our prop shaft. When I hauled this year one was 3/4 gone and the other fully intact. I was wondering what on earth might have caused that until I saw this thread... Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Chuck S wrote: > Wow. >

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Joel Aronson
David, The rope is stretching over the entire 100 foot -plus length. Halyard tension should be adjusted during a race - less downwind, more upwind. You would need to check the sheaves to see if they were changed. Rope compatible sheaves are more V shaped. Rope is more of a DIY project unless you

Re: Stus-List C&C 29 rig tuning

2013-12-02 Thread Aaron Rouhi
In addition to photo album's rig tuning guide, I found the following document from Selden very useful: http://www.riggingandsails.com/pdf/selden-tuning.pdf Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD From: mikebc...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:58:58 -0800 To: cnc-list@

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread dwight veinot
David I agree with you on that rational for using wire to rope halyards...I use all wire to rope except for the spinn halyards Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, David Knecht wrote: > I was thinking about the recent discussions of n

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike
David Have your ruled out slippage of the halyards in the clutches? We have this problem on a number of boats on which I sail. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:58 AM To: Cn

Re: Stus-List C&C 29 rig tuning

2013-12-02 Thread Dennis C.
Go here:  http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/rod_rig_tuning.htm It's on the home page of the photoalbum if you ever want to find it again. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Mike Cain >To: C&C >Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:58 PM >

Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread David Knecht
I was thinking about the recent discussions of new high tech halyards and have a question.  The PO replaced my halyards with all rope, but I don’t know what kind it is.  I have noticed significant changes in sail shape over a day of sailing which I am presuming is stretch.  Given the length of a ro

Stus-List C&C 29 rig tuning

2013-12-02 Thread Mike Cain
Sailors, Can anyone advise a rig tuning rookie on tuning his rig? A very experienced racing skipper came aboard and and gave me a few tips. All I did was loosen the baby stay a few turnsand that seemed to make a big improvement. So it got me thinking about the rest of the rig. Any ideas wou

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread dwight veinot
I think it might be because your shaft zincs are further away from the prop thaat they are protecting than the bullet zinc on the aft hub of the prop. The bullet to fit my H5 Aotuoprop is quite expensive and I have to order it from AB Marine in RI so I tried putting a doughnut zinc next to the prop

Re: Stus-List installing shaft zincs

2013-12-02 Thread David Knecht
Hi Chuck- I had exactly the same experience after a May launch. The shaft zincs looked fine at that time, so I left them and put a new bullet on the prop. They still look pretty good and the bullet was nearly gone when I hauled. It seems like we are getting differential erosion. What are you

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-12-02 Thread Rick Brass
Dwight; Fogging oil is pretty much what you surmise: a light machine oil (think 3-in-1 Oil or sewing machine oil) in an aerosol can with a nozzle designed to produce a very fine mist (like fog). The fog of oil gets drawn into the cylinders with the airflow and coats any surface it touches. I re