Marek,

You are correct about the length! I was thinking of the overall length, not
the hoisted length. Its Monday.  My 35/3 has about a 45 foot mast, so with
the run to the clutch we are talking about 55 feet.
My VPC probably stretches no more than 4 inches as I load it. Dyneema does
not actually stretch - the braids bury and compact when loaded, lengthening
the line.  Once it is loaded, it isn't going anywhere.  I was told to make
my Dyneema lifelines 6 inches shorter than the wire, and it is a good
thing I listened.

1/4 in Amsteel is rated at 8600 pounds and is $1.40 a foot at Defender.
 Add 6 feet of cover and you are good to go.

Joel




On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>   Joel,
>
> not exactly. I don’t know what kind of masts you guys have, but probably
> not in the 100 ft range.
>
> The halyard stretches only on the length of the mast plus the line from
> the mast to the clutch (if you run it to the cockpit). Most of the boats we
> talk about here have masts in the 40-45 ft range (P dimension). Add 10 ft
> for mast to clutch distance. So we are talking 50-60 ft max.
>
> Additionally, the problem is not with the stretch itself. Once you hoist
> the sail and tighten the halyard, you induced most of that stretch already
> (it is a good 1+ ft!). The issue is with how that stretch varies with time
> and load (creep). In most applications, that creep is substantially less
> (single inches vs. 1-2 ft). One of the funniest parts is that Dyneema has
> substantial creep under a static load (more than many other less exotic
> lines).
>
> Marek (in Ottawa)
>
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> David,
>
> The rope is stretching over the entire 100 foot -plus length.
> Halyard tension should be adjusted during a race - less downwind, more
> upwind.
> You would need to check the sheaves to see if they were changed.  Rope
> compatible sheaves are more V shaped.
> Rope is more of a DIY project unless you have the tools.  You still the
> need the rope tail.
> Dyneema is lighter than wire, but I doubt you would notice the difference
> on a 12,000 boat.
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
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