Dud the phone work? Heh heh.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-09-03, at 23:00, "Jake Brodersen" wrote:
Dave,
I often find that the waters of the Patuxent River are pretty clear. One of my
crew dropped his phone overboard a couple years ago. I was able to see it and
pick it up d
I race a Hunter 23 in Colorado. Last year I bought a main from North Direct.
The price was very competitive with all the discount sailmakers(& beat some).
The sail is phenomenal. This year I bought a new headsail. Again very
competitive prices. On the first race with my brand new sail I get T'b
Dave,
I often find that the waters of the Patuxent River are pretty clear. One of
my crew dropped his phone overboard a couple years ago. I was able to see
it and pick it up during my morning cleaning routine. The visibility in the
south end of the bay is usually poor, although this summer i
One way to look at it, an open 40 would be anything but a comfortable ride.
Flat bottom trough landings in one of those must knock your teeth out.
Brent.
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On 2013-09-03, at 5:42 PM, "J.P." wrote:
> Fer Sure
>
> JP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Brennan
Sounds familiar. I bought a regulator, 50' of hose and 80 cubic foot aluminum
tank. Works well.
Jake, the water clarity observation was interesting. My experience is that the
upper sections of the Bay are less clear. I have noticed that this year the
waters in our area are much, much more visib
I have mine done before every race (about every 2 weeks) in the Neuse River in
North Carolina.
On a contract for regular cleaning, I am charged $1.50 per minute of dive +
prep time or about $40 each time.
Charlie Nelson
1995 C&C 36XL/kcb
cenel...@aol.com
-Original Message-
From:
Same here. My buddy, who is a salvage diver, recommended I pick up a Conshelf
XIV off eBay. I bought a Brownie's 3rd lung 50 foot hose and a 2 piece wet
suit. All told, around $300. I borrow a bottle of air from my buddy and spend
45 minutes under the boat with the gators. Done.
Rig came i
Joe,
I clean my own bottom too. It was well worth the investment in dive gear
and training. I can clean the bottom before each race and not worry about
the expense. The going rate around here is anywhere from $1.50 to $2.00 a
foot, unless the bottom is really fouled. Then plan on spending more
We have the bottom cleaned when the boat's hauled fornthe season. I never know
exactly when it'll be hauled until I getbthe email. Bybthe time I hear, the
boat's been out ofne water for a day or two. By the time I get to see the boat,
anything on the bottom is dried out. So, I pay the $4/foot.
E
Don't forget Webb Chiles going around the world in a Drascombe Lugger, a
small open boat.
Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
-Original Message-
From: J.P.
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:15 PM
To: 'Colin Kilgour' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject
Hookah compressor, w hose and regulator cost me $850 brand new. You can buy
cheaper ones on Ebay, I'm sure. We clean our own bottom before each race and
change zincs, and lend the system to others, it's proven a very good
investment.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Ori
Fer Sure
JP
-Original Message-
From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbren...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:39 PM
To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic
Don't forget Webb Chiles going aro
Yeah, and they are better sailors than a novice or first timer...
However, my very first boat was a copy of Tinkerbelle (Called Tinkerbelle
2), the 13' sloop sailed by Robert Manry. It's not a sea kindly boat, not in
any sense, but a proper mariner could probably make anything "useable" and
possib
Find the lowest part of your bilge and drill a hole then epoxy a
Garboard Drain/Plug in .
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 animated_favicon1
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Plavsa
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re:
Er Uh
LIN and Larry Pardey
JP
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Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:49 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J
Wow! Those are few and far between over here on the left coast compared to
east coast... I don't think I'll hit Seattle from homeport...
randy
Tamanawas
29-II
Hood River, OR
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Tuesday, Se
My marina here on Lake Champlain charges $4/foot.
Ed
From: Jack Brennan
Down here in Florida, you really need to have the bottom done every month,
even after a haulout and repaint. The algae growth is amazing. (The Tampa
Bay area bans the sale of fertilizer during the summer to protect against
m
And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J
JP
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Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Lots of very valid points - bu
You might try Mars Metals? I think they made all of our keels?
I bought a keel from them in 2007/08 and worked with a guy named Bill Souter.
1-800-381-5335
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Original Message -
From: cenel...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent:
Lots of very valid points - but as far as size, storage space is concerned,
I am reminded that Sir Robin Knox Johnston sailed non stop round the world -
taking 10 months - in a 32 ft ketch. Clearly the number of crew will
determine the amount of food, gear, water etc needed. Keep the crew size
dow
The Pardeys' boat is much more seakindly than a C&C. It's not just about size.
Cheers
Colin
On 9/3/13, J.P. wrote:
> And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J
>
>
>
> JP
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM
>
Did a little research on this. Not sure if SeaTow is the only provider of
this service, but it seems to be in Long Island Sound. The GOOD news is
that they use a number of different channels, so by knowing what stations
use which channels (for example Bridgeport, my closest station, uses #24,
Por
Here's an appropriate song by a friend of mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8_NlNSINbA
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Dennis C. wrote:
> September 19 is "Talk Like a Pirate Day".
>
> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
September 19 is "Talk Like a Pirate Day".
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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I can't say I've increased capacity on Anchovy. I converted the 35 gallon tank
under the v-berth to a holding tank as when I bought her she had a two gallon
gas can for that purpose. Then, to replace the capacity i installed bladders on
either side of the v-berth. I carry 50 gallons now.
Rick
A gentleman at RNSYS in Halifax by the name of Denis Linton sailed his 1985
CC27 to Ireland in around 2000 or do. No problem except lots of headsail
changes.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-09-03, at 14:59, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote:
> We all know the bigger C&Cs can do this, but wh
I am trying to locate drawings that give details on the keel/centerboard
dimensions for my 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb.
So far the Kingston Maritime Museum has not been able to find any and neither
does South Shore Yachts.
If someone on the list has them for this model or the centerboard
trunk/center
Reasons and methods to go across:
1. Delivery: you need the boat on the other side of the ocean. Add a
liferaft and EPIRB and go. Fix anything that looks defective. This is what a
paid crew would do. Pick time and route to avoid "perfect storms". The boat
will remain on the other side an
Coincidentally, there is a sistership to the Cat/Morgan on my dock. My
mechanic stopped working on it because access was so bad. When he need to
service the generator, Catalina told him to chisel off the nuts holding the
cover.
Joel
35/3
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote:
>
Barnacle cuts are nasty! I have one in my foot from cleaning bottom on day one
of man-cation. As an aside, I'm in Selby Bay on the South River on day four of
Man-cation 2013.
Rick
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Richard Walter wrote:
Greetings,
Our 1978 36-footer has a hard plastic water tank mounted under the
starboard settee, It extends from the nav. station through 2/3 of the
settee. Any idea what the capacity may be? We also have a soft tank
that empties to the hot water heater/shower/head sink.
You might try Fx sails. They are in North Carolina. Very pleased with the main
I bought from them. John Irvin FIREFLY BYC
From: Marek Dziedzic
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:25:49 AM
Subject: Stus-List New (replacement) sails
I'm happy with the design and quality of my Quantum mainsail. IMHO great
value should be given to having a local loft. I sent quotes from competing
lofts to one another and had them explain the differences. Once the
differences were removed the price was within a couple hundred and that was
easi
Marek, I went through this last year. I ended up at a local sail maker just
for convenience of service. They came to the boat to measure and to install
for the first time. I know a lot of people are really happy with Rolly Tasker
from my research. the only negatives i found were people who di
I recently went through this with a new genoa. I went with Rolly Tasker and
have nothing but good things to say. I spoke directly with the GM (Mike) in
Thailand and he was easy to deal with. After shipping and brokerage at my
door the sail cost $1700. North Sails direct wanted $2500 before taxes fo
$35 is an amazing price, especially in a warm climate where the growth is
guaranteed to be heavier. I've heard of others in the Solomons area
getting a recurrent contract price of $100 per month for biweekly
cleanings. Comes down to how often you think it needs done and how good
your paint is.
J
Down here in Florida, you really need to have the bottom done every month, even
after a haulout and repaint. The algae growth is amazing. (The Tampa Bay area
bans the sale of fertilizer during the summer to protect against major blooms.)
So the divers concentrate on a volume business. They try t
All these mods add up... which underscores a point I made in the past. In
today's market conditions, it simply doesn't make sense to outfit a boat
that's not ocean or cruise ready. It makes far more sense to buy a boat
that's 95% of the way there and then add the small mods that it is
missing.
A
Marek,
I'm very happy with my Rolly Tasker genoa (through National Sail Supply).
Yes to 2 reef points. Also, get at least 2 full battens. The main will
last longer. I forget the size of your boat. Under 30 feet I would think
7 oz cloth would be fine. Don't forget to show you are proud to own
Our boatyard already has the system in place and does not allow diving. Thus,
the bi-weekly trip up the river to a friend's house where the diver does both
of our boats.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Joel Aronson
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 1:
We have an agreement for bi-weekly cleanings at $45 each on our 30-1.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Josh Muckley
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List self-cleaning shaft
$35 is an amazing price, especially in a warm c
There are new restrictions going into place for Maryland in 2015. The
state will require boat yards that powerwash to install water recovery and
filtration systems:
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/environment/maryland-marinas-slow-to-adhere-to-discharge-regulations/article_537be9b9-e493-5d58-b8
Fred! Bad!
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-09-03, at 11:59, Frederick G Street wrote:
I'm kinda surprised the spam filters didn't catch this message… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Joe Della Barba wrot
If I could get $35 cleanings my bottom paint would likely be about 10 years old
by now!
Joe Della Barba
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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List self-cleaning shaft
A bottom scrub with a happy ending?
NTTIAWWT ;)
Joe Della Barba
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Street
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:59 AM
To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List self-cleaning shaft
I'm
Greetings,
Our 1978 36-footer has a hard plastic water tank mounted under the starboard
settee, It extends from the nav. station through 2/3 of the settee. Any idea
what the capacity may be? We also have a soft tank that empties to the hot
water heater/shower/head sink.
Have others increased
All good points,
Some key features I added in order of importance.
Inner forestay, and running backstays (2006)
Magnafluxed the standing rigging, replaced headstay and assembled a riggers
tackelbox with spares pins, washers, etc.
Added Monitor Windvane, kitted Autohelm 4000 ST with all spa
I bought a Tasker cruising genoa this spring, 145%, 7-oz dacron, with
foam luff, sunbrella leech/foot; with shipping total was $2200
For a cruising sail it's decent quality, the finishing work is pretty
good, my only issue the foot was cut a bit higher than I'd like, but it
was half the pric
A few thoughts on keel bolts:
Most boats do get a bit of water in the bilge.
Most of the stories I've read about actual stainless failures due to crevice
corrosion, and especially as it applies to wire
rigging in swaged terminals, have involved boats that sail in salt water. I
don't kn
I'm kinda surprised the spam filters didn't catch this message… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Joe Della Barba wrote:
> I had a diver give me a scrub before Labor Day. He said the good news was my
> shaft was spot
Marek: there will doubtless be lots of commentary from the list, but I suggest
talking to some local sailors perhaps at NYC and get their opinions.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-09-03, at 11:25, "Marek Dziedzic" wrote:
Hi,
The decision has been made - we are getting new sails.
What is the boat? I find North Direct to be a good value for the type of sails
you are describing. Also check to see if North One Design has sails for your
model. They are reasonably priced and performance oriented Dacron.
Jerome Tauber, C&C27-5 , Montauk NY.
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On Sep
Read the book "Berserk" - a story of three crazies who took a 27 foot sailboat
with outboard from Chile to Antarctica (and back). Not for the faint of heart.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Knowles Rich
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 3:58 PM
Subje
Hi,
The decision has been made - we are getting new sails. The ones we have are
about 20 years old and even my admiral can see that they are quite blown
(stretched). Now the questions start: what kind and where to buy.
We are in Ottawa, so there is no local sail loft. Doyle Sail can accept loca
Block island has some fantastic biking. A mountain or hybrid is better
because you can acces the dirt roads that lead to some scenic spots.
However, street bikes will still afford you a full day+ of great riding and
fantastic scenery. The roads are good, but you ARE in the State of Rhode
Island (f
$35 for a monthly cleaning on a 30-footer in St. Petersburg, Fl. I paid $45 in
Pompano Beach, Fl.
At those prices, there’s no way I would ever jump overboard and do it myself.
Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
From: Josh Muckley
Sent: Tuesday, September 03
The water you can see in the keel sump is not oxygen deprived. It's in
contact with the atmosphere and absorbs oxygen. My understanding is that if
water is trapped inside, say, the rudder or somewhere in contact with the
keel bolts, where no air can get to it, then that can cause the stainless
to c
Just as in fixing a crack in a plaster wall at home, using only a filler
in the crack itself will never be anything but a temporay solution. The
crack has to be bridged with a patch that spans an area substantially
larger than the crack. Ten or so years ago, I got tired of revisiting
the same i
I had sea water in the bilge and checked the keel bolts. They needed
tightening. I undid each one and put a rubber "0" ring under each backing plate
before installing the nut and torquing. No more leaks. I'll do the one under
the mast this fall when/if I pull the mast.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF3
Count me among those with water constantly in the bilge. The past two
winters with the boat out of the water there has been no evidence of a
smile but I have been concerned with the bilge and it always having water
in it. Keel stepped, when it rains, water in the bilge. Aside from that any
condensa
Bill
I have used G-Flex the past number of years. Prior to that I used 3M
Premium Marine filler (the blue stuff). G-Flex is marginally better.
The problem is not so much the smile as the fact that some keels move a
bit. On previous boat - George Hinterhoeller designed and build Niagara
26 it wa
I've ridden around the island on a regular bike with no problem. The roads
aren't the smoothest, but they're not terrible either.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260
On Sep 3, 2013,
John and others
In the reply below you reference the problems from wet stainless in
oxygen deprived environment. I have heard this comment several times
before also.
I am not aware of a large nimber of sailboats that do not have some
water in th bilge most if not all the time. Since this is wh
I just paid $100 for my 37+ (40') in Solomons. That's about half of what a
short haul was gonna cost.
Josh
On Sep 3, 2013 8:01 AM, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote:
> I have paid anyplace between $60 and $150, depending on who does it and
> how dirty the boat is. I have my own gear too, but my wife is
I rode around the island on a moped with no issues years ago.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Rendezvous on Block Island
I have only been
I have paid anyplace between $60 and $150, depending on who does it and how
dirty the boat is. I have my own gear too, but my wife is convinced I'll get a
horrible disease from swimming in the marina. She only wants me cleaning the
boat up at the yacht club or some other semi-clean place. So fa
I have only been to Block Island once many years ago and we only explored the road north to the lighthouse on mountain bikes. My wife and I would like to explore further and are planning on bringing road bikes. From what I have read, at least the main loop road should be road bike accessible. Tru
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