One way to look at it, an open 40 would be anything but a comfortable ride. 
Flat bottom trough landings in one of those must knock your teeth out. 

Brent. 

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On 2013-09-03, at 5:42 PM, "J.P." <ja...@jpiworldwide.com> wrote:

> Fer Sure....
> 
> JP
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbren...@bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:39 PM
> To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic
> 
> Don't forget Webb Chiles going around the world in a Drascombe Lugger, a
> small open boat.
> 
> Jack Brennan
> Former C&C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J.P.
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:15 PM
> To: 'Colin Kilgour' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic
> 
> Yeah, and they are better sailors than a novice or first timer...
> 
> However, my very first boat was a copy of Tinkerbelle (Called Tinkerbelle
> 2), the 13' sloop sailed by Robert Manry. It's not a sea kindly boat, not in
> any sense, but a proper mariner could probably make anything "useable" and
> possible to sail across any stretch of water...as Manry proved... C&C or
> not... it may be EASIER to do in a better boat, but I think a good sailor
> makes the boat more often than the boat makes a good sailor...
> 
> JP
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Kilgour [mailto:charliekilo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:07 PM
> To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic
> 
> The Pardeys' boat is much more seakindly than a C&C.  It's not just about
> size.
> 
> Cheers
> Colin
> 
> 
> On 9/3/13, J.P. <ja...@jpiworldwide.com> wrote:
>> And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> JP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Indigo
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the 
>> Atlantic
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lots of very valid points - but as far as size, storage space is 
>> concerned, I am reminded that Sir Robin Knox Johnston sailed non stop 
>> round the world
>> -
>> taking 10 months - in a 32 ft ketch. Clearly the number of crew will 
>> determine the amount of food, gear, water etc needed.  Keep the crew 
>> size down, and I am sure a 35Mk1 will cope easily with a crossing of 
>> the pond
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  _____
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Della Barba, Joe
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 1:59 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the 
>> Atlantic
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Reasons and methods to go across:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1.       Delivery: you need the boat on the other side of the ocean. Add a
>> liferaft and EPIRB and go. Fix anything that looks defective. This is 
>> what a paid crew would do. Pick time and route to avoid "perfect 
>> storms". The boat will remain on the other side and not used as a 
>> trans-ocean commuter. Avoid extensive mods by picking a good time of 
>> year to go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2.       Stunt: You want to prove that YOUR boat can make it across. We
> all
>> know the bigger C&Cs can do this, but who will be the first 27 or SR21 
>> across? I know someone who crossed the pond in a Cal 20 along these lines.
>> Pay up the life insurance or be really good with weather routing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 3.       Conversion to a passagemaker: You want your boat to be equipped
>> for
>> ocean crossings as a routine trip. This will cost some $$$ to do right 
>> and most of the smaller C&Cs will have near-unfixable handicaps 
>> compared to boats made for this. To take my own 35 as an example, the 
>> boat surely can sail across the ocean as easily - or not - as she has 
>> made Bermuda. What will get to you is lack of fuel, lack of water, 
>> lack of dry storage, lack of storage that isn't under a bunk, wet 
>> ride, and quick motion. Like most shallow-bilged production fin keel 
>> boats, my bilge is shallow enough that water is all over the place in 
>> rough seas, not trapped down in a deep bilge sump. This can be quite 
>> annoying. Steering in big seas at speed is HARD. It is really fun to 
>> hit 15 knots, but it is also HARD work. Might be a lot for a small 
>> crew. I could buy a Landfall 38 easier than I could make my boat a 
>> Landfall equivalent and that isn't even straying outside the C&C family.
>> I'd
>> rather be in something like a Pacific Seacraft 38 if it were just two 
>> or three of us.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Della Barba
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> C&C 35 MK I
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