Don't forget Webb Chiles going around the world in a Drascombe Lugger, a small open boat.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

-----Original Message----- From: J.P.
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:15 PM
To: 'Colin Kilgour' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

Yeah, and they are better sailors than a novice or first timer...

However, my very first boat was a copy of Tinkerbelle (Called Tinkerbelle
2), the 13' sloop sailed by Robert Manry. It's not a sea kindly boat, not in
any sense, but a proper mariner could probably make anything "useable" and
possible to sail across any stretch of water...as Manry proved... C&C or
not... it may be EASIER to do in a better boat, but I think a good sailor
makes the boat more often than the boat makes a good sailor...

JP

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Kilgour [mailto:charliekilo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:07 PM
To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

The Pardeys' boat is much more seakindly than a C&C.  It's not just about
size.

Cheers
Colin


On 9/3/13, J.P. <ja...@jpiworldwide.com> wrote:
And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J



JP



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Indigo
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the
Atlantic



Lots of very valid points - but as far as size, storage space is
concerned, I am reminded that Sir Robin Knox Johnston sailed non stop
round the world
-
taking 10 months - in a 32 ft ketch. Clearly the number of crew will
determine the amount of food, gear, water etc needed.  Keep the crew
size down, and I am sure a 35Mk1 will cope easily with a crossing of
the pond



Jonathan



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Della Barba, Joe
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the
Atlantic



Reasons and methods to go across:



1.       Delivery: you need the boat on the other side of the ocean. Add a
liferaft and EPIRB and go. Fix anything that looks defective. This is
what a paid crew would do. Pick time and route to avoid "perfect
storms". The boat will remain on the other side and not used as a
trans-ocean commuter. Avoid extensive mods by picking a good time of
year to go.



2.       Stunt: You want to prove that YOUR boat can make it across. We
all
know the bigger C&Cs can do this, but who will be the first 27 or SR21
across? I know someone who crossed the pond in a Cal 20 along these lines.
Pay up the life insurance or be really good with weather routing.



3.       Conversion to a passagemaker: You want your boat to be equipped
for
ocean crossings as a routine trip. This will cost some $$$ to do right
and most of the smaller C&Cs will have near-unfixable handicaps
compared to boats made for this. To take my own 35 as an example, the
boat surely can sail across the ocean as easily - or not - as she has
made Bermuda. What will get to you is lack of fuel, lack of water,
lack of dry storage, lack of storage that isn't under a bunk, wet
ride, and quick motion. Like most shallow-bilged production fin keel
boats, my bilge is shallow enough that water is all over the place in
rough seas, not trapped down in a deep bilge sump. This can be quite
annoying. Steering in big seas at speed is HARD. It is really fun to
hit 15 knots, but it is also HARD work. Might be a lot for a small
crew. I could buy a Landfall 38 easier than I could make my boat a
Landfall equivalent and that isn't even straying outside the C&C family.
I'd
rather be in something like a Pacific Seacraft 38 if it were just two
or three of us.



Joe Della Barba

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I



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