Dennis:
Speaking of Katrina, is there a place that specializes in parts from damaged
boats. In particular, I am looking for a pair of Barient 36 self tailers or
equivilent. I am also looking for a used number 3 genoa.
Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or
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Don't know if it's correct, but when I was there a few years ago every boat was flying the red flag with the National flag in the top left corner. I've got mine on the wall of my den.Sam :-)
as someone who has been through this equation from the other side recently, a
good buyer will not be looking so much for the accessories, more for a solid
hull in good shape. I knew I would be replacing the sails and cushions, adding
hot water and self-tailing winches and a lot of other items. I
This is C&C related because I'm going to the Bahamas this fall and am in
ptocess of outfitting the boat. When checking out my signal flags the other
day, it occurred to me that I don't have a courtesy flag for the Bahamas.
When I went on line to look for one, I see both the Bahamas official
nationa
There's a shoal draft version; I have one. Draft is about 4ft 9 as opposed to
around 5ft 3 for the fin version. We had three at the lake; one fin that raced
the old SORC a few times and a pair of shoal versions. I raced my sistership
shoal draft in the Chi Mac race. It held up to the weather
Project boats are great. Buy low; sell low. You pay enormous amounts of slip
fees or dry storage fees, spend bazillions on parts, wires, upgrades, etc. In
the end, you figure out you worked for $0.22 an hour. :)
My buddy and I were surrounded by lots of Katrina damaged boats. We both work
o
Gary, I'm responding to your first question without listening to
others. Take that for what it's worth.
I have found MinWax Satin Finish Marine Varnish to be a very good
interior boat varnish for areas that are not subjected to 24x7 UV.
Really and seriously. I wouldn't use it on the sole, b
Hey Brent,
I too would love to partner on a big fix-er-upper. Sadly, the market is weak.
Sadly, my boat money is tied up in my 34R.
Too many complete and ready-to-go boats, up for sale right now.
Realistically, not many boat yards would take a 61 so she would have to reside
in Annapolis or Ne
I don't believe there is a 33 in eastern North Carolina, but your
description of the boat sounds very much like a 79-80 C&C 30 which is for
sale in my area and which I am familiar with. Old sails, old cushions, basic
set of old instruments, no roller furling, basically clean interior and the
topsid
Not certain what you have on your 37+ but the 34R came out during the same time
from C&C and it has Delrin doughnuts for bearings. The stainless steel shaft
rides on delrin. You can see a bulge in the rudder log where the bearings are.
I think earlier C&Cs had a fiberglass shaft, no bearings. So
Thanks. I guess in a couple years they will have both AIS and GPS.
Until AIS becomes more common on pleasure craft the AIS wont bring
much help from other sailors
Joel
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On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Graham Collins wrote:
> Hi Joel
> All modern beacons should have GPS, the diffe
Hi Joel
All modern beacons should have GPS, the difference is that the EPIRB and
non AIS personal beacons transmit your position to satellites, at 406
MHz. This signal is then relayed to the closest coastguard station for
coordination.
The AIS beacon will summon help, if you are in range of
I've been looking at PLBs. Some seem to be GPS based like an EPIRB.
Others are AIS based and apparently display on an AIS receiver but do
not summon help. If I'm alone I want help. If I have company I want
to be found. Which would you buy for coastal/bay cruising assuming
you have AIS onboard?
The problem with an older, lower priced boat is broker "excitement". Most
won't push the boat. Sure, they'll blow a bunch of smoke up your butt about
why you should list with them, etc. but in reality, they'll do little more than
take some pics and put it online. They would rather focus on mo
Truethfully David, You're really selling a project boat. Needs sails, a
repower, new cusions and paint and teak re-done. Sounds a lot like Lolita when
i bought her. Structurally sound and needing everything else. I paid 5k for
her and have dumped (cough) another 15k to 20k into her. I'd be lu
I'm surprised it was considered a total loss. The damage doesn't look that
bad in the photos.
Joel
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On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Brent Driedger
wrote:
That's a project is love to have the time and money to bring to fruition.
Is there much of a flippers market for such a projec
A C&C 39 of similar age and similar condition was recently on the market for a
long time here in the Seattle area. The price started around $50K then began
dropping. The last I heard was it was at $19K OBO. I looked for its listing
last week and it has either sold or the listing has been remo
Hi Mark
Don't let the mast worry you, nor the single handing issue. I can
singlehand Secret Plans fairly easily. I do admit that I keep it on a
mooring, I'd be more worried depending on slip locations if that was a
factor, but the actual sailing is no worries and my only botched docking
even
Don't be sorry! That's more than I would pay. Last fall I saw the same model
year as mine selling on craigs list RI for 3000.00
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That's a project is love to have the time and money to bring to fruition. Is
there much of a flippers market for such a project in the states? If this was
lucrative I'd do it for a living because I just like messing with boats.
Brent Driedger
s/v Wild Rover
27-5
Lake Winnipeg
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Hi Josh,
I haven't needed to take my apart yet but I do have a drawing showing that
detail. It's too big for the list so I'll email it to you.
Ken H.
On 19 March 2013 17:49, Josh Muckley wrote:
> Anybody know anything about the rudder bearings on a 37+? When I pulled
> the 24 year old rudde
My first guess would have been $15,000.00 There are five on Yachtworld
asking between $18,500.00 and $19,900.00 so I'm thinking perhaps $17,000.00
now, if you're lucky. I may be optimistic in this market. Sorry.
Ken H.
On 19 March 2013 19:36, David Paine wrote:
> I'm trying to value my much
I'm trying to value my much loved (by me) 1975 33 Mk 1. Speaking
objectively, I'd say that it's structurally sound but shabby -- old
cushions, worn surfaces including some teak veneer loss. It has an A4
engine - reliable but requires coddling. Alcohol stove. Old, largely
end-of-useful-life sa
I don't need the 61, but I sure want it! I'd need some boat partners with
some skills too!
Jake
Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III
Midnight Mistress
Hampton VA
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I used Minwax Polyurethane for my interior. I was able to sand out much of
the minor defects in the old varnished floor boards. I put on 3 coats of
satin finish. After that I buffed the floors out with a fine rubbing
compound to give that hand rubbed look. The Minwax flows out beautifully,
le
I spend a fair amount of time single-handing my LF38, too. The first time I
stood at the wheel after I moved up from my 30mkI, it felt like I was looking
at the deck of an aircraft carrier stretching out in front of me; but I quickly
got used to it.
And I definitely agree with Dennis that an e
We used Wood-Shield clear coat polyurethane wood finish, interior satin on
our oak kitchen cabinets. Brushed on, leaves no brush marks and very
forgiving to work with.
I don't know how it would stand up on a boat but it is polyurethane so it
should be good. Costs under $25 a litre at Home Hardwa
Y'all -
Varnish
I echo Bill Coleman's comments re: Helmsman Spar varnish - I have used both
the satin and the semi-gloss on exterior and interior ( but NOT on cabin
sole - for that I would use a long-curing varathane intended for floors). I
have had most satisfaction when it is cut with up to 15%
I grew up on a shoal draft 30-1. It drew 4'3" and although it didn't go
upwind the best, it would reach and run like you wouldn't believe! We
brought home a ton of silver with that boat. It was one of the earliest
boats, built in 1972 I think.
James
Delaney
C&C 38 MKII
Oriental, NC
- Origi
Mark, I don't know of a shallow keel version of a 30-1, I think some folks
were thinking of a 30-II - different boat.
Gary
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible C&C 30 purchase
Graham,
Now I understa
In my younger days, I went out singlehanded on the C&C 40 I was looking
after in Virgin Gorda, put up the #2 and had a great time sailing circles
around bareboats. At the end of the day, once all the bareboats were out of
the way, I sailed back into the Yacht Harbor, dropped the jib on deck (no
rol
I think this one is a 1979, thus a 30-1. They were listed as 8000, but it seems
that most are over that. There is a note on the stats area of the web site that
says 9000. I think it depends on equipment, I'm sure mine is on the heavy side,
with teak/holly floors, shower with pump, propane stove/
I wouldn't worry about single handing either. I've routinely single handed my
35-1 from Louisiana to the Mississippi Coast and Pensacola, Florida and back
more several times. With an autosteerer, it's fairly easy.
Dennis C.
>
> From: Andrew Burton
>To: cnc
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote:
...that would be getting too big for me to solo and maintain. Likely not
that much different, but I have to admit part of me is scared of the jump,
the 24 is so easy to handle and maintain, I'm worried I'm biting off a lot
more effort rather
Graham,
Now I understand the clearance issue - the ability to lift the boat up
on top of the cradle. I guess that could be a challenge. Anyone know
the height of the boat above waterline? I guess it really depends on the
length of the lifting straps, boat width, and height of the boat - plus
I like the natural look of danish oil. Looks a lot like teak oil but it
lasts way longer.
Josh Muckley
On Mar 19, 2013 4:39 PM, "Andrew Burton" wrote:
> I ended up sticking with what I know and used Epiphanes Gloss on the cabin
> sole.
>
> *A tip for sanding large areas of varnish; especially f
Anybody know anything about the rudder bearings on a 37+? When I pulled
the 24 year old rudder, the shaft had some scoring and wear grooves. I
looked up inside the "bearings" but couldn't tell if it was an actual
bearing with rollers or just a bushing (rubber, fiberglass, bronze?).
Thanks,
Josh
I've imported 2 boats from the US - one by sea and one by land.
Neither time with a broker.
By sea is probably simpler (they'll take your HST payment by credit
card at 1-888-CAN-PASS), but neither is a big deal.
I'd probably sail the boat back. Just make sure you've got at least
one guy on board
I ended up sticking with what I know and used Epiphanes Gloss on the cabin
sole.
*A tip for sanding large areas of varnish; especially fairly new varnish:
Sprinkle the area with talcum powder; it helps keep your sandpaper from
clogging.*
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bi
The local shipwright has been using Minwax Polyurethane, and likes the
results over the years. I bought the helmsman interior/Exterior satin for
down below, but my buddy has been using the straight polyurethane on his
sole, see
http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/d/r/drf6/Liberty_Project_1/MS_Hatc
That would look great in my car!
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-03-19, at 15:51, Richard Walter wrote:
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My hands are literally still covered in powder from the gloves I took off
after laying on a coat of Epiphanes Rubbed Efect Varnish. I like this stuff
because you can lay it on pretty roughly and because of its satin finish
many mistakes are covered. I like to use high gloss varnish on the trim and
Epiphanes works just fine for me. A combination of satin and gloss areas looks
good. Panels satin. Rails and stiles gloss.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-03-19, at 16:44, Gary Russell wrote:
I am about to refinish the teak on the interior of Expresso. The question
is, what v
I used Epifanes all natural (not the 2 part or the quick dry) in
semi-gloss. Takes a while to dry and the smell lingers, but the outcome (if
applied
properly) is spectacular
Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39 TM
In a message dated 3/19/2013 4:12:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
joel.aron...@gmail.c
Gary,
This is almost as bad as asking what anchor to use!
I would not use Minwax, as it is not rated for exterior use (even though it
is interior wood). Satin shows fewer imperfections, but satin v. gloss is
a matter of taste. I'm not even going to try to profess to know which
varnish/finish is
Oops, sorry.I use lemon oil on the interior teak and I am sure you have
noticed.we have a lot of interior teak
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Thanks, Dwight, but I'm looking for interior varnishing.
Gary
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Gary Russell wrote:
> I am about to refinish the teak on the interior of Expresso. The
> question is, what varnish should I use ( Satin, gloss, Epiphanes, MinWax,
> etc)?. All suggestions apprec
Gary
I used 5 coats of Cetol marine when I did my teak 5 years ago.had the
handrails off and stripped and sanded.the stuff has lasted very well
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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I am about to refinish the teak on the interior of Expresso. The
question is, what varnish should I use ( Satin, gloss, Epiphanes, MinWax,
etc)?. All suggestions appreciated.
Gary
S/V Expresso
'75 C&C 35 Mk II
East Greenwich, RI, USA
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I agree on both counts with what Bob advises. I used Sealand Industries to
bring Alianna home form the USA and the papers you get from the "border
broker" are real handy 6 years down the road when I registered my boat and
the province came checking for proof of taxes paid.
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 M
I think I need one of those.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
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Mark:
Should you purchase this boat and decide to have it trucked to NS, a few
things to consider:
1. I used Sealand Industries (I have coordinates) from Chester.you
will be hard pressed to hire a better professional to transport your
boat. If he is already in the area of your boat, you
Sailboatdata.com:
*Disp.* 8275 lbs./ 3754 kgs.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Robert Gallagher wrote:
> I think the 30MKII might come in at over 9000lbs. Empty all the tanks,
> remove mast, boom, sails any everything else no bolted down and you have a
> shot.
>
> These numbers where more for
I think the 30MKII might come in at over 9000lbs. Empty all the tanks,
remove mast, boom, sails any everything else no bolted down and you have a
shot.
These numbers where more for marketing than for the benefit of crane
operators.
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I would be interested as a drive or fly attendee if it is somewhat close (1-2
hours) to Annapolis where one of my close friends lives. I'd be more
interested if it coincided with the Annapolis Boat Show.
Dennis C.
>
> From: "chef2s...@aol.com"
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Edd,
So sorry! Hopefully it will find a new owner.
Joel
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Edd Schillay wrote:
> Ugh -- the 34 is (was) the former Enterprise-A that was owned by my father
> and destroyed in SuperStorm Sandy.
>
> So sad :(
>
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
>
Ugh -- the 34 is (was) the former Enterprise-A that was owned by my father and
destroyed in SuperStorm Sandy.
So sad :(
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log W
yachtsalvage.com has a C&C 61 foot custom ketch, a 34 and dozens of other
project boats for those with lots of time, skill and/or money.
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35/3
Annapolis
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Whether it's a shoal draft or fin keel will make a difference in mass. C&C
seems to want to keep the same righting moment for the shoal draft and
therefore increased the keel weight to make up for the shorter righting arm.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
--- On Tue, 3/19/13, Gary Nylander wrote:
I'd like to see pics of anchor roller setups for a 30-1 too (on my list as
well)
Nate
"Sarah Jean"
1980 30-1
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:11 AM, rick bushie wrote:
> Hey Joe Bognar,
>
> I would love to see pics and get a source for your anchor roller. It's on
> my semi short list, as is a mast to
I'm assuming your traveler is in the original position? Just in front of the
binnacle? I moved mine to the shelf at the companionway - if you have a
dodger, that may be a problem. Forward of that, you may have a load problem,
as it will be forward of the mid-point on the boom. A three block main
Never mind. I thought there was a significant savings over Vivid, but then saw
it was a Quart price.
Back to Vivid.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship
I used epaint years ago on my Shields, Raven, and was NOT impressed. It
didn't cover very well and didn't work very well. They may have changed the
formula since then. I have white Vivid on Raven now and love it. I expect
that's what I'll put on Peregrine when the CRC has been all scrubbed off.
And
Listers,
Has anyone had any experience with ePaint (http://www.epaint.com)?
In the past, I've used Petit Vivid and liked the results. But, the
bottom has been stripped completely and I can now start with anything.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Sc
9000lbs may not be fine. Mine hull 549 1979 weighs in at 9600lbs wet, no mast,
full fuel and water tanks, dishes, beer, rum
and bedding on boardaccording to the load cell on the crane. You might be
under 9000 in the spring when it's all dried out
and no equipment on board. I assume BBYC has a
I think teh package from US Sailing is somewhat pricey.
Stu apparently had something back in 2003 or so:
http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2006-December/007584.html
{Stus-List} sailing polars*Ross MacLennan* rmaclennan at accesscomm.ca
*Thu Dec 28 11:19:13 EST 2006*
- P
Try US Sailing...
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:25:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Polars
Stu does not have the
polars. Any other ideas of where or from whom to get
them?
Thanks,
Orre
You are all welcome to the CRYC Annual Regatta as well on July 26-27-28. We'll
have a cruising entry for people that just want to show up and not race over.
Joe Della Barba
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Stu does not have the polars. Any other ideas of where or from whom to get
them?
Thanks,
Orren
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Oren, You can buy the polars off
Seems like you've already gotten a lot of replies but I'll throw my two
cents in and echo what Bob said, the C&C 30 isn't the only option. I was
actually looking for a 27 or a 30 when I was moving up from my Mirage 24
but I couldn't find one for a reasonable amount of money. The 27 and the 30
seem
Hey Joe Bognar,
I would love to see pics and get a source for your anchor roller. It's on
my semi short list, as is a mast to partner bracket that Antoine describes
earlier. I had my mast out last winter for a refurb and tried to remove
the gooseneck to raise it 10" (my mains'l luff is about 10
Sounds fun.
Joe Della Barba Coquina
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 2013 Rendezvous
Jason and I have talked about and are looking at possibly reestab
Dave,
I think I already responded on SN that I'd attend.
Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:49 AM, wrote:
> **
>
>
> Jason and I have talked about and are looking at possibly reestablishing
> the C&C Rendezvous on the Chesapeake. Is there an interest? I have already
> po
Jason and I have talked about and are looking at possibly reestablishing
the C&C Rendezvous on the Chesapeake. Is there an interest? I have already
posted this idea on Sailnet where I post mainly and there is some interest.
The plan would be to look at a date in October and find a site/ ma
Marc
Sorry - wrong club. You are talking about the bedford Basin Yacht Club
crane not RNSYS.
One suggestion is to take the mast down before using the crane. Would
make life easier when hoisting. Use the same crane to take down the
mast. Is a job best done with three persons plus the yard staf
The Dehler DB1 Highlander hauls with that crane for cleaning bottom. It
is a 33 foot older design race boat.
I also saw a beneteau 305 get lifted with the crane but the clearance
was not sufficient to put on the cradle
The C&C 30 would be close but I agree is a bit large for the crane
Mike
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Hi Mark
Belinda would know better than I, so that sounds good.
The extra expense of the big crane is no biggie, but the scheduling
flexibility is indeed a good reason to use club crane.
Not sure how to figure out if there is enough clearance for lifting the
30 - maybe ask Travis what boat is
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