Hallo,
Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 00:40 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
> >
> > > And why 48KHz? 44.1 is standrd CD.
> >
> > 48 ist standard DVD. And standard jackd. ;)
>
> since when does jackd have a sta
uld just answer yes or no.
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Bill Unruh hat gesagt: // Bill Unruh wrote:
> > I''m looking for a cheap (50 ~ 100 euros) soundcard with:
> > 6 - 8 outputs
>
> 6-8 outputs? Why?
To drive 6-8 speakers? ;)
> And why 48KHz? 44.1 is standrd CD.
48 ist standard DVD. And standard jackd
"{Chaintech,9CJS},"\
So it seems, at least someone has started to work on it. I don't know
the status, though.
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unset* everything here to
empty strings or so, as I would never want such an application to even
get a chance to mess with my mixer settings, which are finely tuned to
my external gear already.
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> New list of devices:
> aplay -l
> List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices
> card 0: USB1648 [PHASE 26 USB(16/48)], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
See, now instead of USB2448 you get USB1648, so all is fine here.
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as well, you may try to use "aplay -D
hw:0 6channel.wav" as well. Playing just stereo files directly to hw:0
doesn't work without conversions.)
Next you may want to try recording with "arecord -f cd somefile.wav".
(Note that the card
php/1712_.asoundrc
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/W Out L and R. You
can also use the Digital Mix, I don't.
To set your card as I have, you maybe can use attached mixer-dump file
with:
$ alsactl -f audiophile.txt restore
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at
all when recording, IMO. Try something like streamripper instead. You
can also grab mp3/ogg-streams with a simple downloader like "wget".
Another solution is the monitor-PCM mentioned in another post.
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d sample rate of
> 44100 Hz.
And if you play that at 48kHz, it will sound sharp, so I'm sure that
this is your problem. How do you playback your soundfiles? Did you try
to use a different soundfile player which does proper resampling
(like "Music on Console")?
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27;d say,
that part should just be deleted except for cards that actually need an
asoundrc, like maybe the RME.
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ur X-Session, using ALSA's
sequencer interface. If I send a program change with the Trigger
Finger, I receive this in Pd's "pgmin" object just perfect. No
problems with that.
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ently is some Windoze software that will set its sample
> rate. But I have no idea how to do this via ALSA.
Did you try it with jack? Like:
jackd -d alsa -d hw:1 --rate 48000
Replace "1" with your card number.
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"snd-usb-audio" to get some
recommendations. Most USB cards Just Work(tm). Personally I have and
use the Terratec Aureon USB and a Terratec Phase26 USB. I also have
the M-Audio Quattro which is one of the rare cards that *don't* work,
so stay away from this one.
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if a soundfile player fails to play, just because there is
no mixing device. Many (USB) soundcards don't have a mixer at all, so
Amarok would be unusable on these as well.
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ftware
This setting can also be changed in the "GUI" settings panel, when you
set the "Experience level" to "Expert". Why it's in the GUI panel and
not in the "audio" panel I don't know.
undcard. Is there any way
> to find out which code, program etc uses the device? And what device is
> actually used? Is it /dev/dsp or /dev/snd/ or something else?
Something else: It's best to use ALSA device names with ALSA software.
THe usual device to use is called "def
SA is working correctly and
the problem is somewhere in your Ubuntu/Gnome/GStreamer setup.
If you don't get sound, then maybe there's some error message in
/var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog?
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If interfaces
are numbered in a way, that violates this, the kernel warns about
this. In your case, bNumInterfaces probably is 6, but Lexicon counts
from 0 to 5 like this: 0, 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 where 3 and 5 are missing, and
6 and 7 are illegal.
I guess, Lexicon has never read the USB spec and
to play that file, either use a player, that converts it
to the correct current channel count (and sample format and sample
rate) or use the "plughw:1" device or another device that does
automatic conversion.
Or use j
hing we or you
can do about this, sorry. You have to do per-channel control in
software, just like it's done in MS-Windows.
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o Gain Control'
numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Switch'
numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Switch',index=1
numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Volume'
numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='Speaker Playback Volume',index=1
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ns have their own volume control. I generally set
soundcard levels to the maximum possible without distortions, then do
further volume regulation inside the software I'm using. (I hate it
when some mp3-playing software tries to mess with my finely tuned
is not in the sound card database.
>
> How can I add digital input/output, mixer and entry in the sound card
> database?
You don't need to run Alsaconf for USB-cards normally. They are
activated by hotplug/udev or whatever handles USB devices on your
machine.
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supported by Alsa?
As with all USB devices in my experience you get much better info on
this list: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
This seems to be the entry for the MobilePre:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2169
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Hallo,
Johan Spee hat gesagt: // Johan Spee wrote:
> Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > $ arecord -L
> > gives a list of predefined PCM devices you could use. One of these
> > should be named "spdif".
>
> 'should be'. But
e Terratec Phase 26 because
it's cheaper and also nice and sturdy.
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uld be able to record from that one
which should record from your digital input:
$ arecord -D spdif -f dat spdif-to-dat.wav
Recording WAVE 'spdif.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000
Hz, Stereo
...
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t;. And
another question: Is your usb audio card *really* card 0 and not card
1? You can check with "cat /proc/asound/cards".
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the builtin microphone recorded ever ambience sound and
played it back again at ever bootup which resulted in loud feedback
until aumix was called to set decent mixer levels.)
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sk here.
It's as simple as that and documented with more words in
/usr/share/doc/alsa-base/README.Debian.gz
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the Terratec card is much cheaper, so unless you need features
like the XLR connections, phantom power etc. of the Edirol I consider
it a better deal as well.
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http://qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?w=d&id=44
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oesn't need an asoundrc
generally and the docs should be updated to reflect that.
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rgot to
mention it in my prior mail.
Maybe your card is similar to this Speedlink USB headset:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3499
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So staying away from M-Audio USB is a save choice. Instead Edirol,
Terratec, ESI or similar cards are generally well supported.
For simple needs I would recommend the Terratec Aureon. Not expensive
at all (~50 Eurodollar), decent quality, small, many outputs, and well
tested with
still profit from any future changes to the
"default" alsa device.
Btw: You can listen to bbc in a standalone player as well using this
URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/media/fmg2.ram
This even works in mplayer or xine, which have ALSA support.
ll do the
right thing. You may need to define a pcm.dsp0 for this to work, see
"man aoss" for more info.
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Hallo,
Lee Revell hat gesagt: // Lee Revell wrote:
> Why does sox abuse the ALSA API this way? Why can't it use the alsa-lib
> interface like everyone else?
Maybe because everyone else uses ecasound instead of sox for command
line recording nowadays? ;)
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#x27;t need an .asoundrc for dmixing since several ALSA
versions.
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Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easie
a slider box and see the data coming
into Pd just fine. I run 2.6.16 myself. So here it works.
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Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technol
softsynth here. Could you start the
softsynth, then run "aconnect -lio" again? Also qjackctl is easy to
use to make ALSA sequencer connections.
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powered so it must do as
> much as possible in hardware.
I think, the Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB is nice, it's not very expensive
and doesn't take up much space, so you can tape it to the back of your
htpc. ;)
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ason to buy other hardware.
>
> Do you remember the problem was in a laptop ?
Ah, no, I didn't, sorry. Well, then it's a bit or a lot harder, if you
don't want to go the USB/FW route or buy an RME/Echo PC-card.
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to happen. Linux cannot be at the mercy of
> proprietary vendor drivers. Ndiswrapper is a last resort, not a way
> forward.
And besides: In the audio world there are a lot of alternative sound
cards which have open source drivers and often even superior
performance. There's no r
r state will not cause the device
> files to become inaccessible.
He's not talking about the lack of but about a corrupted state file.
I've seen ALSA get confused by this myself - though not for a long
time.
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routing looks like this:
>
> USB---> \
> LineIn -> volume -> + -> volume -> LineOut
> Line? -> volume -> /
>
> LineIn -> volume -> USB
I don't know if this helps but Audiotrak has a routing diagram on
their website:
http:
, e.g., the similar Terratec Aureon,
which I have.
Some similar things maybe go wrong in other areas as well, like
channel count or sample format. I don't know the ALSA internals in
this area, so lets hope one of the ALSA experts finds the time to look
at this.
C
;index"-module
parameter. For example on Debian, just create a file called e.g.
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-local and add:
options snd-usb-audio index=1
there, to make the usb card always be the second card.
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Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Zach Visagie hat gesagt: // Zach Visagie wrote:
>
> > I need to get the ESI Maya 44 (not audiotrak, though their very
> > similar)
>
> They are the same devices. Really. It's just a different brandi
quot; to /etc/hotplug/blacklist) and if you have the snd-usb-audio
driver from ALSA installed.
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re right - haven't recognized that during all the trouble. HID
> should be for input.
AFAIR this Philips card also has LEDs and knobs, that can be used with
the HID driver. Try looking into the /dev/input/event* files with "cat"
or "xxd". How
nerally standards' compliant.
Not being compliant would drive up the costs because companies would
need to write special drivers for the operating systems.
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ult for soundcards which don't support hw
mixing.
Feel free to make this even clearer and to correct any mistakes in the
rest of the document. Personally I don't use dmix so I admit that I'm
not really up to date with the current situation
o sound.
I think, you first should find out if your tv-card can
properly recorded from with "arecord" like:
$ arecord -D plughw:1 -f cd /tmp/test-cd-quality.wav
$ arecord -D plughw:1 -f dat /tmp/test-dat-quality.wav
Do you get distorted sound with that, too?
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for about four or five years now. We get maybe
one messed up up recording in three months. Or less. It's that solid.
You also may want to look at jackd.
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the two (or more) audio
> sources? only h/w mixing channels will show up in a
> mixer app, correct, so how would one control a software
> mix?
There is the "softvol" plugin, which sounds like it could be used for
this,
Jack, it's
simply a hardware issue. It's a bit like two people trying to play the
same saxophone at the same time: it won't fly.
You should get a real multichannel card or two cards that provide a
way to be synced to each other like the M-Audio Delta cards should do
(never tried) or the RME
know Jack, then, well, I'd say
it don't knows jack. ;)
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;t really hard but a bit tricky. You need to create a
file: ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asoundrc with a text editor. Then fill it
with the details described here:
http://alsa.opensrc.org/?DmixPlugin
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them either.
Some applications still use the sound (PID 1449 and 1480 in your
example), so dpkg fails. I guess, you need to stop all applications
that use sound and then do the remove.
$ /etc/init.d/alsa force-stop
might help, it kills those applications, that use sound, I think.
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ocumentation. It should be linked more prominently on
alsa-project.org or even hosted there to make it more visible. It has
the most user contributed information on alsa besides the mailing list
archives.
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you add something to an ~/.asoundrc (normally not needed). So it's a
bit hard to document in a man page. In fact, the list of devices is
really something in flux, so to say. But you're right: the predefined
devises could need some better, centralized documentation.
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Hallo,
forgot to say: "front", "rear" and so on also are kind of "hw"
devices, they don't convert formats.
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ice, you can only play, what the hardware (=="hw") supports.
If you want to play something not supported by your hardware, then
ALSA offers the plug-devices to convert formats. That's why "plug:hw"
works: Sound goes through the plug layer, then to the hw layer.
All is fine, or
Hallo,
Vidar Hoel hat gesagt: // Vidar Hoel wrote:
> Frank Barknecht wrote:
> >>I am the owner of a Terratec Aureon 5.1 USB-device,
> >Me, too. ;)
> Thanks for the reply, I did a little testing and googling and got
> mplayer to work correctly. I also tried to set
tur),
> Auto Gai, Speaker and Speaker.
>
> This does mean that ALSA doesn't see the 3.1 extra channels?
No, it means, that the Aureon USB uses the same mixer settings for all
6/2 output rsp. input channels. Think of it like a Volume knob for the
whole device.
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at least
> as reported by ALSA.
If there is one: Is the mixer unmuted and turned up?
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So I'd suggest to stay with the Edirol, or maybe look at the Audiotrak
and Terratec Aureon cards for cheap multichannel USB.
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> but i can't figure how to get the card working. the first card works
> fine with intel8x0, its an onboard card (the computer is a laptop).
Well, it seems to be working, at least that's what ALSA reports. What
exactly is the problem? Did you try to play somethin
Hallo,
Volker Hartmann hat gesagt: // Volker Hartmann wrote:
> can anyone post his .asoundrc for the Terratec DMX 6fire 24/94 with dmix?
the one at http://alsa.opensrc.org/?DmixPlugin could work.
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; alsa -> soundcard
> app2 >--|
What does above "alsa" mean?
> The bit i cant work out is how to do the apps into a dmix and out to brutefir.
>
> I know i can do this with JACK, but having stereo into brutefir, and 6 chans out
> isnt possible.
Why?
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much with applications.
Then I don't understand, if you want a sampler to *play* like an
instrument or if you want to arrange samples like a sound engineer?
For arranging I&#
ally on ICE1712 chips.
For me, nothing beats ecasound in regard to reliably and quick
recording, if you can live with the command line. And even one cannot
live with a command line there's help in the form of tkeca:
http://tkeca.sourceforge.net/
recordings even with a non-patched kernel by
double-buffering and realtime mode.
As I said, this is working like that for years now.
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auto-aufnahme.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
dacity-OSS talk to ALSA devices without knowing it does so.
But actually I record radio a lot with ecasound, which has the
advantage, that it can be put into a cronjob and thus can even record,
when I'm away/asleep.
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Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Yes, of course: "scummvm -e adlib". scummvm then doesn't use any midi
> at all, but directly plays the internally generated sounds. It cannot
> do this using the ALSA interfaces, but instead is one of the hu
2E) MPU-401'
That probably is the one you need a midi cable for. And an external
midi synth. Normally the first wavetable synth like on the
soundblaster cards is client 65:0,...
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e alsa site is
hopelessly out of date, and it doesn't work with dmix either. However,
by going through the test code and figuring out why it doesn't work
led me to find out about the new api issue."
Ups, is this (still) true?
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ed but not without. How do you try
to access the midi part then, which software do you use?
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Hallo,
Jaroslav Kysela hat gesagt: // Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> > BTW: This libao is used by several command line players, namely ogg123
> > and mpg321/123. Fixing libao would fix quite a lot of applications.
> > ;)
>
> Ho
#x27;t have a hardware synth on your card, you need a software
synth. Try Timidity or fluidsynth.
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ipc_key
slave {
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0 2
1
t open the sound device.
> Mind you that while I want to move mixing to alsa level I still need
> arts for playing sounds from KDE programs.
Doesn't arts support any kind of ALSA output? Then you should be able
to tell artsd to us
Midi is just note information, it doesn't include anything you could
hear without some kind of synthesizer.
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en will play
over plug:spdif. Maybe you want to read up a bit on the many
possibilities ALSA's runtime configuraition offers.
http://alsa.opensrc.org has many examples. You could even enable
software mixing without relying on arts.
ALSA
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> of course that I can't get it to output anything on the optical out.
> I have tried quite a number of different setups but I can't seem to
> figure out what to set to get it to work.
Could you describe in a bit more detail, what you tried and how it
failed? Did
B,
Audiotrak Maya 5.1. EX,
Audiotrak MayaEX 7,
ESI Gigaport,
Soundblaster USB MP3+,
Audiotrak Optoplay,
Edirol UA-5
are just some resonably save snd-usb-audio devices, because they made
not a single problem in all my tests and were pure plug and playable
immedi
uct. There also appear to be various incompatibilities
> with the 2.6 kernel.
Not that many actually. AFAIK, only the M-Audio Audiophile and the
M-Audio Quattro are failures on 2.6 because they don't comply with the
USB spec. You can find many supported devices in the linux-usb device
list on qb
Hallo,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Howdy. Recently Frank Barknecht I believe was running tests on a number
> of USB based audio interfaces to see which worked with the 2.6 kernel and
> ALSA. The M-Audiophile appears to be permanently dead in the water a
Hallo,
lets not shut out the list, they have more knowledge than me. ;)
Ben Ford hat gesagt: // Ben Ford wrote:
> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
> >Could you post your exact .asoundrc and /etc/asound.conf? You also
> >might to read http://alsa.opensrc.org/?DmixPlugin for a detail
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