Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/12/2020 7:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/12/20 10:12 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> I'm happy to have others do it too, but there should be some >> coordination so we don't end up with two people working on summaries >> for the same week. (Maybe the Repor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 02:33, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/12/20 10:25 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Aris, your bid was preceded by "> " so it looks kind of like quoted > > text from an email you're replying to. It could cast some doubt on > > whether it works as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 10:25 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Aris, your bid was preceded by "> " so it looks kind of like quoted > text from an email you're replying to. It could cast some doubt on > whether it works as a "by announcement" action, since a casual reader > might assume the actual un

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 22:17, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:57 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > Falsifian wrote: > > > > > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a > > > separate lo

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 10:21 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > Hmm... this brings up an interesting question. If we have publicly > funded contract, we probably don't want a few people being able to > change the contract by unanimous agreement. > Gah, I sent this too early. I thought Falsifian's message brought the q

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 10:12 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > I'm happy to have others do it too, but there should be some > coordination so we don't end up with two people working on summaries > for the same week. (Maybe the Reportor contract could issue a unique > asset for each week that determi

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] May Zombie Auction

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> > I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a > > separate lot) ordered as follows (highest-bid first): > > > > 1. pikhq > > 2. ATMunn > > 3. Tcbapo > > > > Agora is the Auctioneer, and the Registrar is the Announcer. The > > currency is Coins with a minimum bid of 1. > >

Re: DIS: simple way to give out funds

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 21:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Falsifian wrote: > > So, the idea is that if there's someone good work that should be > > funded, but that shouldn't be a permanently rules-defined office, the > > Agoran public could vote to fund their venture. > > Proto > - >

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 15:36, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > How would you guys feel about "decentralizing" the Reportor role? Handling Reportor with a publicly funded contract (e.g. with G.'s proposal) would allow this. I'm hoping to start gathering notes this week in order to start

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn: Rulekeepor, Promotor] Proposal and Cleanings

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 8:30 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 5/12/20 8:26 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: >> Are they both application bugs or should I attempt a new cleaning of one? > > Both are application bugs. They have been fixed in [0]. The "state" > thing appears to have been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn: Rulekeepor, Promotor] Proposal and Cleanings

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 8:26 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > Are they both application bugs or should I attempt a new cleaning of one? Both are application bugs. They have been fixed in [0]. The "state" thing appears to have been a type, and "An statute" was because I didn't

DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn: Rulekeepor, Promotor] Proposal and Cleanings

2020-05-12 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:17 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 5/12/20 8:11 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: > > I intent to without objection, replace the second instance of "an" in > > R1688 with "a" and, without objection, replace the words "an State"

Re: DIS: coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force

2020-05-12 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
I have a lot of thoughts on this, so I've distributed them where it seems most appropriate: On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:06 PM David Nicol via agora-discussion wrote: > > (1) judiciary thing: craft some immutables that allow contracts to specify > Agora Nomic Arbitration Services as their venue of d

Re: DIS: Research Request: Economics

2020-05-12 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/11/2020 12:00 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I think that there's a problem subdividing time periods in Agora. > There's not always a clear date where a certain era started and ended. > PAoaM, for instance, entered drafting in November 2017 and was finally > enacted in February 2018, but was dis

Re: DIS: Research Request: Economics

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 4:37 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > Proposal 8014, "Putting Agora on a Map". It enacted all the systems for > the 2018 map system reboot. Ah, thanks! -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Research Request: Economics

2020-05-12 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 2:31 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 5/11/20 3:00 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: I think that there's a problem subdividing time periods in Agora. There's not always a clear date where a certain era started and ended. PAoaM, for instance, entered drafting

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald electoin

2020-05-12 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 7:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: Since no one else has, I become a candidate. If anyone else would like to fulfill the duties of this office effectively, let me know and I will withdraw. My deputisation earlier this month was fully intended to be a o

Re: DIS: Research Request: Economics

2020-05-12 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/11/20 3:00 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > I think that there's a problem subdividing time periods in Agora. > There's not always a clear date where a certain era started and ended. > PAoaM, for instance, entered drafting in November 2017 and was finally > enacted in February 2

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Ah, it's not responsibility, really? There isn't much sense of responsibility at all concerning it, actually. I haven't seen anyone ever go "oh hey, you should go and record *your* dynasty you know?". People just... do it. Because they want to. There is no view that the Emperor or victor *should* f

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:07:03 AM CDT you wrote: > I don't think that the tragedy of the commons necessarily applies, although > I might be too influenced by Blognomic. Because there is zero mechanical > reward for doing the equivalent of the "reportor" job there and people just > sort of go at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Ah, those tricks seem obvious now lol, I didn't try it. Good point about those precedents. About the second thing, I mean like, if the interpretation is "PER infraction, EVERY player can flick 1 coin off of them, each" then a contract could be made for a group of pong punishers lmao. Like: "i lik

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I don't think that the tragedy of the commons necessarily applies, although I might be too influenced by Blognomic. Because there is zero mechanical reward for doing the equivalent of the "reportor" job there and people just sort of go at it on their own accord, which inspired my suggestion. I thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 9:53 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: I get where you're coming from, but there might be quite some debate on the scope of 'once', I suspect... Is it once per infraction? Once *ever*? Once one player does it, can everyone else still do it too? This is a good thing to be c

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:35:07 AM CDT Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > How would you guys feel about "decentralizing" the Reportor role? > > Instead of having one person do it, maybe make it so that every month or > two or so there is a sort of bounty for publishing a report - with th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I get where you're coming from, but there might be quite some debate on the scope of 'once', I suspect... Is it once per infraction? Once *ever*? Once one player does it, can everyone else still do it too? (if so, as a side idea, it could be made logistically easier with a contract though, somethi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 6:31 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: i think this rule would be much more fun if every single message in an agoran day (perhaps exclude things like reports and such) had to have ping or pong in an alternating fashion (also i don't see why this rule is restricted to public messa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/12/20 6:13 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: Wouldn't this allow you to succ people dry out of their coins because there is no limit to how many times you can activate this after an infraction? I could just say nothing and just attempt it later on but like, this mechanic would be s

Re: DIS: Protos: Two Small Offices

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
How would you guys feel about "decentralizing" the Reportor role? Instead of having one person do it, maybe make it so that every month or two or so there is a sort of bounty for publishing a report - with the availability to have multiple different people submit a report for the same period becau

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:32 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > i think this rule would be much more fun if every single message in an > agoran day (perhaps exclude things like reports and such) had to have ping > or pong in an alternating fashion (also i d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
i think this rule would be much more fun if every single message in an agoran day (perhaps exclude things like reports and such) had to have ping or pong in an alternating fashion (also i don't see why this rule is restricted to public messages) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 PM Cuddle Beam via ago

DIS: Re: BUS: [attn Promotor] Ping!

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Wouldn't this allow you to succ people dry out of their coins because there is no limit to how many times you can activate this after an infraction? I could just say nothing and just attempt it later on but like, this mechanic would be such a pain in the ass lmao. On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 4:11 AM R

Re: DIS: coherent vision for Agora Nomic as an independent policing/judiciary force

2020-05-12 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
1) I think this is already a thing? Like, we can have that: - The internal computation of a contract is decided by some contract-defined mechanism which is then observed and interpreted by the outside of Agora. For example "the interpretation of this contract shall be considered to be what John Doe