Ah, those tricks seem obvious now lol, I didn't try it. Good point about those precedents.
About the second thing, I mean like, if the interpretation is "PER infraction, EVERY player can flick 1 coin off of them, each" then a contract could be made for a group of pong punishers lmao. Like: "i like appul yeas it is delishus" "ping Hey! You didn't do the ping/pong thing! I remove 1 coin from you by announcement. And I act on behalf of Ringo to remove 1 coin from you via the pong punishers contract And I act on behalf of John to remove 1 coin from you via the pong punishers contract And I act on behalf of Paul... etc" Like that, they don't have to all be around and paying attention to punish someone en masse, they'd just need one person. On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 6:04 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/12/20 9:53 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > > I get where you're coming from, but there might be quite some debate on > the > > scope of 'once', I suspect... > > > > Is it once per infraction? Once *ever*? Once one player does it, can > > everyone else still do it too? > > This is a good thing to be concerned about. I think precedent has us > covered here, though. There are five instances of "CAN once" in the > ruleset that are interpreted to mean "once per instance of that thing > occurring". They're found in Rules 2350/12, 2496/17, 2585/3, 2602/2, and > 103/28. You can look those up manually, but a Ctrl+F in the ruleset also > works. > > There could be some argument that *every* player could do it, though, as > those five instances all specify an agent. We'll see what the Agoran > Public thinks, I guess. > > > (if so, as a side idea, it could be made > > logistically easier with a contract though, something like "everyone who > is > > a member can do the pong coin thing on behalf of anyone else who is a > > member") > > I'm not sure I follow. Like, a contract endorsed by the rules that does > the same thing as the second paragraph of the proposed rule? That just > sounds like normal rules with extra steps. > > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:44 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > >> On 5/12/20 6:13 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > >>> Wouldn't this allow you to succ people dry out of their coins because > >> there > >>> is no limit to how many times you can activate this after an > infraction? > >> I > >>> could just say nothing and just attempt it later on but like, this > >> mechanic > >>> would be such a pain in the ass lmao. > >> > >> I believe that the "once" in "any player CAN once" should prevent that > >> from being a problem. > >> > >>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 4:11 AM Reuben Staley via agora-business < > >>> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I submit the following proposal: > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> Title: Agora plays table tennis > >>>> AI: 1.7 > >>>> Author: Trigon > >>>> Coauthors: > >>>> > >>>> Create a new rule entitled "Ping Pong" with Power=1.7 that reads: > >>>> > >>>> The first public message sent by a player each Agoran day > must > >>>> begin with the word ping (case-insensitive). The second > public > >>>> message sent by a player each Agoran day must end with the > word > >>>> pong (case-insensitive). > >>>> > >>>> If a player fails to include ping or pong as mandated by the > >>>> previous paragraph, then, in that same Agoran day, any player > >> CAN > >>>> once revoke one coin from em. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Trigon > >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Trigon > >> > > -- > Trigon >
