DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Compensate for vacant offices

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If an Officer or the Speaker fails to satisfy a Timing Order to With "speaker as an office" having been adopted, this text has changed. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Return of switches

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Would it fix things to make it an entity switch (but still only allow >persons to register)? Yes, I think so. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements of CFJs 1678-83

2007-07-10 Thread emurphy42
root wrote: > Now that the matter no longer has any bearing on Partnerships thanks > to the new, improved Rule 2145, I would like to reiterate my appeal of > CFJ 1682 in the hopes of garnering more support. I still find fault > in the logic of the Judge's arguments, and it seemed at the time that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread emurphy42
root wrote: > On a somewhat related note, are the various partnerships aware that if > CFJ 1684 is sustained, they will not have been considered persons > until the adoption of R2145 and will need to have registered > subsequent to that event to be considered players? Acutely. Five months worth

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Reward high-AI proposals

2007-07-10 Thread emurphy42
Zefram wrote: >> Amend Rule 2126 (Voting Credits) by removing "ordinary". > > Which instance of it? Whoops, there is indeed more than one. Will fix later.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Return of switches

2007-07-10 Thread emurphy42
Zefram wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Citizenship is a person switch with values Null (default) and >> Registered, tracked by the Registrar. A player is a person >> whose citizenship is Registered. > > So an entity that is a person and then ceases to be a person immediately >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On 7/10/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/10/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So is Primo just ignoring the decision of CFJ 1659 or what? I believe so. Wasn't this amended shortly thereafter to fix the problem? Yes and no. After P5038, the rules definition of "by annou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On 7/10/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So is Primo just ignoring the decision of CFJ 1659 or what? I believe so. Wasn't this amended shortly thereafter to fix the problem? BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On 7/10/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was away for a week, then back, then away again this week. Primo Issue #23 assigns CFJ 1688 to Murphy to answer on behalf of Primo, and CFJ 1694 to myself to answer on behalf of Primo. The slowness has been due to the lack of a VPSA report summ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Roger Hicks
There's more to it than that. Primo's cases were assigned almost two weeks ago; judgements were already overdue before the start of this week. -zefram I was away for a week, then back, then away again this week. Primo Issue #23 assigns CFJ 1688 to Murphy to answer on behalf of Primo, and CFJ

DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On 7/10/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Primo Corporation is not judging its assigned cases, I intend to change it to lying down, without 2 objections. (I'll be able to do that under the fifth paragraph of rule 1871/11 if I'm CotC at the time, which seems a likely turn of events.) -zef

DIS: Re: BUS: Assignment of 1651a; intent to make comex CotC

2007-07-10 Thread Roger Hicks
In the appeal of CFJ 1651, I judge REASSIGN BobTHJ On 7/10/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the appeal of CFJ 1651, I judge REASSIGN. Wooble

DIS: Re: BUS: inactivity

2007-07-10 Thread Roger Hicks
On 7/9/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 08 July 2007, Zefram wrote: > Primo Corporation is overdue to judge CFJ 1688 and CFJ 1694. I > therefore intend to make Primo Corporation inactive, without objection. > I also object. I am away for the week, but I beleive a Primo issue has

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Reward high-AI proposals

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[With the return of disinterested proposals, we can go back to rewarding >non-ordinary interested proposals, yes?] Hmm. There's still possible inducement to vote contrary to one's conscience. There is no longer the incentive to vote AGAINST a good proposal, if the propo

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A player CAN ONLY perform a dependent action by announcement IF > all of the following are true: "CAN ONLY ... IF" means "CANNOT ... unless". You don't actually have anything saying the a dependent action CAN be performed by announcement. I suggest "CAN ... if

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Return of switches

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Citizenship is a person switch with values Null (default) and > Registered, tracked by the Registrar. A player is a person > whose citizenship is Registered. So an entity that is a person and then ceases to be a person immediately ceases to be a player, b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
Geoffrey Spear wrote: >I believe BobTHJ is on vacation without net access for the entire >week; There's more to it than that. Primo's cases were assigned almost two weeks ago; judgements were already overdue before the start of this week. -zefram

DIS: Forgot to mention

2007-07-10 Thread emurphy42
"Really Generalize Dependent Actions" will need to be revised if "refactor voting limits" is adopted. Will deal with it later.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I believe BobTHJ is on vacation without net access for the entire week; he mentioned it somewhere at Nomicapolis, where he's our Scorekeeper. On 7/10/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: P.S. Why isn't Primo judging its cases, anyway? On 7/10/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I object. I

DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread comex
P.S. Why isn't Primo judging its cases, anyway? On 7/10/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I object. I intend, without 2 objections, to change Zefram to lying down. I intend, without objection, to make Zefram inactive. On 7/10/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Primo Corporation is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-10 Thread Zefram
Peekee wrote: >What are the rules that specify that obligations of a Partnership must >be devolved to ALL of its members/parties? That's not required. The requirement is that the obligations be devolved onto at least two parties, who are then known as the members. >Rule 2145/1 (Power=1) Out o

DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-10 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: 3. The sole purpose of this Agreement is to create a Partnership for the nomic Agora. The Parties of this Agreement are the Members of the Partnership. ... 6. Peekee shall ensure that the Partnership satisfies all obligations that it incur