[AFMUG] insanely cheap remote worker

2020-03-09 Thread Timothy Steele
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
More people being tested means two things: 1) the death rate goes way down 2) the death rate goes way up, because we currently have folks dying of pneumonia that wasn’t the flu. > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies > wrote: > > I'm going to Disney World this coming F

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying: 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with something looking like nCov and which got tested. We don't currently know how many people have it but didn't get tested and as such isn't counted as an infected perso

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady from here in town was in the car behind this lady and we "exposed" So that equates to "its here in town now" I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes having the baby cut from her gut on the 18th which has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
Correct. It could go either way. > On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying: > > 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with > something looking like nCov and which got teste

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
We have moved from containment to community mitigation, where the goal is to flatten the curve and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and wait for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging has not quite caught up with this reality, but if you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it ou

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning: Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind outbreaks for the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times about how people should look at the coronavirus data. One si

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt even know they were sick, of that remaining 750 probably 650 thought they had the flu or a cold. of the remaining 100, most of them were elderly or otherwise infirm and standard outcomes would apply. In the mean time, in that area probably 10,000 peopl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
I think you're off by a factor of 10 on the flu deaths. Flu death rate is roughly .1%, so that would be about 10 per 10,000. bp On 3/9/2020 8:11 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt even know they

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and those people are able to spread it, there are almost certainly a LOT of people running around with it. That also means that the death rate is probably wa

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Corollary: we need to test lots of people, and get the infected ones to stay away from nursing homes, cruise ships and unprotected healthcare workers. And given that kids seem to either not get it, or not get serious symptoms, I wonder if they are silently transmitting the virus. It does

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
I actually have faith and trust in the WHO, CDC and local and state health departments. This is the primary reason for them existing and they all have something to prove. It is a big puzzle right now but we have the tools to figure out where it is coming from, how it is transmitted and how to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
It's interesting that the one country that is testing lots of people (South Korea) has had a death rate well under 1%. On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Corollary: we need to test lots of people, and get the infected ones to > stay away from nursing homes, cruise ships and unpr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
So far the biggest vector seems to be Facebook. bp On 3/9/2020 8:34 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I actually have faith and trust in the WHO, CDC and local and state health departments.  This is

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
I find it hard to believe that North Korea is missing out on all the fun. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 9:47 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus It's interesting that the one country that is testing lots of people (South Korea) has had a deat

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
Ha! From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 9:49 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus So far the biggest vector seems to be Facebook. bp On 3/9/2020 8:34 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I actually have faith and trust in the WHO, CDC and local and state health departme

Re: [AFMUG] PTP Microwave antenna question

2020-03-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you try new adapter plates or do you keep reusing the same pair? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 11:18 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Yes, I believe the P/N is N110082L126A (for 11 GHz). > > > > In the case of a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Perhaps they just immediately bury anybody that's infected... On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM wrote: > I find it hard to believe that North Korea is missing out on all the fun. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 9:47 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
Soylent Green From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 10:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Perhaps they just immediately bury anybody that's infected... On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM wrote: I find it hard to believe that North Korea is miss

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
That is North Korea. bp On 3/9/2020 9:00 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Perhaps they just immediately bury anybody that's infected... On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought the CDC said wash your hands and don’t touch your Facebook! From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Ha! From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 9:49 AM To: af@af.af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but who'd wanna eat infected Soylent Green? Or do they use Steve's purification process... ? On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:04 AM wrote: > Soylent Green > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
10 There has been no confirmation outside the media conjecture that asymptomatic people can spread it. Im curious, and too lazy to look, what type of testing was done on them, was it a nasal swab, or a blood test. A nasal swab just indicates exposure. Remember the DOG INFECTED WITH CORONA VIRUS!!!

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
dont forget, this isnt chinas first pony ride with this type of stuff. It was only in the last couple years they slowed down on wearing masks everywhere, avoiding contact, etc from the last one, MERs or SARS I dont recall. Good luck getting americans to practice the aseptic lifestyle that became th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
There has not really been any testing at all in the US. Total tests to date in the US is fewer than 5000. By contrast South Korea is doing 10,000 per day. The test kits are only starting to be distributed in the US. They might have substantial numbers of kits some

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
I just hope since everybody and their brother is producing them that they all create the same test so the results are standardized. 5 9s vs 4 9s to us is usually good enough for the girls we go with, but tracking a "pandemic" needs 100 percent alignment on the data set On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 11:25 A

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but as far as I know, there hasn't been any confirmation that asymptomatic people can't spread it either, but even if they can, I imagine they'd spread it nearly as much, due to the fact that they aren't going around coughing and sneezing on everyone and everything in sight. It would be inte

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Testing should ramp up.  CDC test kits are not the only test in town.  As of today both Labcorp and Qwest Diagnostics have their own testing capabilities.  This means any doctor can now do a swab and send it off to either of these labs just like any other test they do.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
Re: [AFMUG] OT VirusI doubt most would think to go get a test if they had the mild symptoms that I have been reading about. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 10:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Testing should ramp up. CDC te

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
My 11yr old daughter has been having the mild symptoms for 2 months now, i bet shes a carrier since all the other tests, even mono came back negative... she may even be patient zero. Last night she came to me and said "Daddy, I love you, but I am become death, destroyer of worlds" I dont know what

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Yeah, they told me I didn’t have mono either at 18. One ruptured spleen later they said that’s weird, you must have had mono. Why were you carrying 140lb boxes of frozen fries up the stairs at work? Mark > On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > My 11yr old daughter has been h

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
She has built a nuclear weapon, or is studying Sanskrit or has converted to Hinduism. Knowing you, I would bet on the first one. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus My 11yr old daughter has been having the

Re: [AFMUG] my happy place

2020-03-09 Thread Dev
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I was just reading that with coronaviruses, unlike rhinoviruses, immunity only lasts 1-2 years and that with the “common cold” people get the same strain again sometimes within a year. So assuming they develop a vaccine, I guess we’ll have to get our “flu shots” every year in the future.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
That's different from the information I had been given. I'd heard the issue with the coronavirus is that it mutates very rapidly, so that a vaccine for today's coronavirus will be obsolete after the next mutation or two. One of the reasons the common cold still has

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
Guys, youre way over estimating the speed at which the government is able to engineer new variants of each virus On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Bill Prince wrote: > That's different from the information I had been given. I'd heard the > issue with the coronavirus is that it mutates very rapidly,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Prince
I'm not. Anthony Fauci stated that they can get a vaccine prototyped in a few months, but it would take at least a year, and maybe up to two before it could be administered to the general public. By that time, we will be on the great-great-great (insert however ma

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Steve Jones
I dont think you read my statement. The reason we have some new "pandemic" every 2 or so years is thats about how long it takes for the government to engineer the new virus On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:55 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I'm not. Anthony Fauci stated that they can get a vaccine prototyped in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread James Howard
That’s why we need a one world government. Efficiency should be able to be improved to the point they can engineer a new pandemic every 6 months then. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 3:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subj

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Robert
One of the vlogs that I watched posted a month ago the processes that N. Korea was following very shortly after the initial outbreak.   It was a textbook response based upon what China was doing to suppress community spread.   Hate to say it, but for once it looked like N. Korea was ahead of th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Robert
tl:dr,  WHO did a pretty good job characterizing it in China... https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fbt49e/the_who_sent_25_international_experts_to_china/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb&fbclid=IwAR200tfVJTj399ew-ebr4m9hNnrJ4XUt37ga6b-lPQyRsbIWndMS3PMMjsw&_branch_match_id=74518349213299

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I just watched the news conference on the TV. IMHO, VP Pence and the medical experts did a decent job, except when Pence had to engage in ritual sucking up to his boss. But it seems like the adults are mostly in charge and hopefully will do the right things going forward regarding the virus res

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
You are much kinder...I call the top politicians on this response completely inept. You can't frickin tweet this away. On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:46 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I just watched the news conference on the TV. > > IMHO, VP Pence and the medical experts did a decent job, except when Pence >

[AFMUG] OTDR noob

2020-03-09 Thread TJ Trout
just got my first otdr, been trying to shoot the only fiber I have which is 4ct flat drop about 50ft. No luck so far, figured out I needed a launch cable which I now have (500m) but still can't see the mechanical connector / reflection / loss of the flat drop after the launch cable, I'm guessing it

[AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread Craig House
Shopping for a reel stand online and I find way more options than I expected. Primarily used for guy wire spools with 5000' so weight is 400-500 lbs. I would like to be able to use them for the occasional 5' spool of 7/8" coax for two way work and for basically anything in between. I've used

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR noob

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
First, just shoot the launch cable with nothing on the far end and make sure you can see it and the length is approximately correct. I would choose 20 ns or longer pulses. Perhaps 10 seconds of averaging time. From: TJ Trout Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 6:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users G

Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
For stuff that large I go with a reel trailer. -Original Message- From: Craig House Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 7:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations Shopping for a reel stand online and I find way more options than I expected. Prima

Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread Craig House
Cant I'm already pulling a gooseneck with towers sections loaded. Most of the time I just need it for a 24-30" reel. Occasionally I need it for a 5' spool but rarely - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 8:23:46 P

Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
I just loaded a hydraulic adjustable one on a truck that is going to RB auctions in SLC... -Original Message- From: Craig House Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 7:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations Cant I'm already pulling a gooseneck

Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread chuck
If you want, we can pull it off the truck. Not sure it still works. You can have it for the cost of the freight. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 7:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations I just l

Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread Craig House
Seems Like it might be a bit much for my needs. Do you have any pics of it ? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2020, at 20:58, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > If you want, we can pull it off the truck. Not sure it still works. You > can have it for the cost of the freight. > > -Original Messa

Re: [AFMUG] Reel stand recommendations

2020-03-09 Thread Chuck McCown
We will get you some. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Craig House wrote: > > Seems > Like it might be a bit much for my needs. Do you have any pics of it ? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 9, 2020, at 20:58, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> If you want, we can pull it o