Guys, youre way over estimating the speed at which the government is able
to engineer new variants of each virus
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's different from the information I had been given. I'd heard the
> issue with the coronavirus is that it mutates very rapidly, so that a
> vaccine for today's coronavirus will be obsolete after the next mutation or
> two. One of the reasons the common cold still has not got a vaccine; too
> many targets.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/9/2020 12:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I was just reading that with coronaviruses, unlike rhinoviruses, immunity
> only lasts 1-2 years and that with the “common cold” people get the same
> strain again sometimes within a year.
>
>
>
> So assuming they develop a vaccine, I guess we’ll have to get our “flu
> shots” every year in the future.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 1:28 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>
>
>
> She has built a nuclear weapon, or is studying Sanskrit or has converted
> to Hinduism.
>
> Knowing you, I would bet on the first one.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:52 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>
>
>
> My 11yr old daughter has been having the mild symptoms for 2 months now, i
> bet shes a carrier since all the other tests, even mono came back
> negative... she may even be patient zero. Last night she came to me and
> said "Daddy, I love you, but I am become death, destroyer of worlds" I dont
> know what that means, but im taking her lab down tonite
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:45 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I doubt most would think to go get a test if they had the mild symptoms
> that I have been reading about.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:36 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>
>
>
> Testing should ramp up. CDC test kits are not the only test in town. As
> of today both Labcorp and Qwest Diagnostics have their own testing
> capabilities. This means any doctor can now do a swab and send it off to
> either of these labs just like any other test they do. There should be no
> reason for no testing now.
>
>
> https://newsroom.questdiagnostics.com/2020-03-05-Quest-Diagnostics-to-Launch-Coronavirus-Disease-2019-COVID-19-Test
>
>
> https://www.labcorp.com/information-labcorp-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
>
>
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> Monday, March 9, 2020, 12:24:15 PM, you wrote:
>
> There has not really been any testing at all in the US. Total tests to
> date in the US is fewer than 5000. By contrast South Korea is doing 10,000
> per day. The test kits are only starting to be distributed in the US. They
> might have substantial numbers of kits sometime next week.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 3/9/2020 9:12 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> 10
>
> There has been no confirmation outside the media conjecture that
> asymptomatic people can spread it. Im curious, and too lazy to look, what
> type of testing was done on them, was it a nasal swab, or a blood test. A
> nasal swab just indicates exposure. Remember the DOG INFECTED WITH CORONA
> VIRUS!!! headline a couple weeks ago? Yeah, it died down when it was
> pointed out that the dog didnt test positive, the dog never had it, it was
> just present in the swab as an environmental contaminate. If a swab of a
> door handle shows it present, we dont say the door handle has it, because
> it doesnt, its simply on the door handle
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that
> tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and
> those people are able to spread it, there are almost certainly a LOT of
> people running around with it. That also means that the death rate is
> probably way, way lower than we've been made to believe.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt even know they were sick,
> of that remaining 750 probably 650 thought they had the flu or a cold. of
> the remaining 100, most of them were elderly or otherwise infirm and
> standard outcomes would apply. In the mean time, in that area probably
> 10,000 people got the flu, and 100 of them died
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning:
>
>
>
>
>
> *Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind outbreaks for the London
> School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times about
> how people should look at the coronavirus data. One signal Dr. Kucharski
> looks for is when the first case in an area is a death: “That suggests you
> had a lot of community transmission already,” he said. “Suppose the
> fatality rate for cases is about 1 percent, which is plausible,” he
> explained. “If you’ve got a death, then that person probably became ill
> about three weeks ago. That means you probably had about 100 cases three
> weeks ago, in reality.” “In that subsequent three weeks,” he added, “that
> number could well have doubled, then doubled, then doubled again. So you’re
> currently looking at 500 cases, maybe 1,000 cases.” *My corollary on the
> above is that if we have that many cases in a community, then a lot of
> people are running around with no clue that they have been infected.
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/9/2020 6:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> We have moved from containment to community mitigation, where the goal is
> to flatten the curve and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and wait
> for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging has not quite caught up with
> this reality, but if you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it out.
>
> Those of you going to WISPAmerica, stay safe. Wash your hands, and use
> the hand sanitizer that I assume will be everywhere. Maybe take a
> thermometer.
>
> And Steve, I’m shocked, shocked to hear that your town has Amtrak. Didn’t
> you just get indoor plumbing last year?
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:40 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>
> Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady from here in town was
> in the car behind this lady and we "exposed"
> So that equates to "its here in town now"
> I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes having the baby cut from
> her gut on the 18th which has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital. In the
> mean time everybody and their brother is going to be comimg out to the
> hospital because theyre certain they have the deaths. Theyre bringing every
> germ known to man into one place. Hospitals are already infection centers,
> dirty filthy cesspools of disease.
> The baby technically only has to be there 24 hours, and im taking it home.
> Wifes on her own at the death center. Herpes will be riding bareback on
> cold viruses after inbreeding with mersa and riding through a puddle of c.
> Diff.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:46 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying:
>
> 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with
> something looking like nCov and which got tested. We don't currently know
> how many people have it but didn't get tested and as such isn't counted as
> an infected person. As we improve our testing ability, we'll find more
> cases which aren't hospitalization (and possible subsequent death) cases,
> pushing the rate lower.
>
> 2) Because we are testing more we'll also be able to tell that some of the
> cases that we aren't attributing to nCov are actually nCov cases, pushing
> the rate higher.
>
> Does that describe what you're saying?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> More people being tested means two things:
>
> 1) the death rate goes way down
> 2) the death rate goes way up, because we currently have folks dying of
> pneumonia that wasn’t the flu.
>
> > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to Disney World this coming Friday. Went into town this
> > weekend, stopped by 5-6 stores including lunch out. I have an
> > employee going on a cruise next week.
> >
> > We have had two confirmed cases in our county.
> >
> > It is what it is, I'm not going to hide under a rock. Let's keep this
> > in perspective. Currently the total infection rate per 1 million in
> > the US is 1.6. S. Korea has the highest infection rate at 144 per
> > million. That infection rate not death rate. Death rate is even
> > lower.
> >
> > If you are under 50 years old, your death chances are under 0.5%.
> >
> > It is going to go up. Now that both Quest Labs and Labcorp are both
> > doing testing, more people will get tested. More people getting
> > tested, means more people being counted as a case.
> >
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> > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <m...@mailmt.com>
> >
> > Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> > www.Myakka.com
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> > Sunday, March 8, 2020, 9:51:23 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > MH> You’re really making light of this serious situation aren’t you?
> >
> >>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
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> >>> welp, guys, was nice knowing you. An amtrak train had apparently
> stopped in
> >>> my town with an infected passenger. Thats the end of that. Already
> took the
> >>> family out to the garden and put them down, now I just wait for sweet
> death.
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Might want to switch to peeing on them to avoid spreading anything.
> >>>> According to the news stories droplets of saliva and rubbing your
> eyes are
> >>>> the ways it gets spread. Urine might give you even more dominance
> than
> >>>> spit anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* A
> >
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