I dont think you read my statement. The reason we have some new "pandemic"
every 2 or so years is thats about how long it takes for the government to
engineer the new virus
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:55 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not. Anthony Fauci stated that they can get a vaccine prototyped in a
> few months, but it would take at least a year, and maybe up to two before
> it could be administered to the general public. By that time, we will be on
> the great-great-great (insert however many greats you would like)
> grandchildren of the current coronavirus.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/9/2020 12:40 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Guys, youre way over estimating the speed at which the government is able
> to engineer new variants of each virus
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:40 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's different from the information I had been given. I'd heard the
>> issue with the coronavirus is that it mutates very rapidly, so that a
>> vaccine for today's coronavirus will be obsolete after the next mutation or
>> two. One of the reasons the common cold still has not got a vaccine; too
>> many targets.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2020 12:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I was just reading that with coronaviruses, unlike rhinoviruses, immunity
>> only lasts 1-2 years and that with the “common cold” people get the same
>> strain again sometimes within a year.
>>
>>
>>
>> So assuming they develop a vaccine, I guess we’ll have to get our “flu
>> shots” every year in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 1:28 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>>
>>
>> She has built a nuclear weapon, or is studying Sanskrit or has converted
>> to Hinduism.
>>
>> Knowing you, I would bet on the first one.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:52 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>>
>>
>> My 11yr old daughter has been having the mild symptoms for 2 months now,
>> i bet shes a carrier since all the other tests, even mono came back
>> negative... she may even be patient zero. Last night she came to me and
>> said "Daddy, I love you, but I am become death, destroyer of worlds" I dont
>> know what that means, but im taking her lab down tonite
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:45 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> I doubt most would think to go get a test if they had the mild symptoms
>> that I have been reading about.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:36 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>>
>>
>> Testing should ramp up. CDC test kits are not the only test in town. As
>> of today both Labcorp and Qwest Diagnostics have their own testing
>> capabilities. This means any doctor can now do a swab and send it off to
>> either of these labs just like any other test they do. There should be no
>> reason for no testing now.
>>
>>
>> https://newsroom.questdiagnostics.com/2020-03-05-Quest-Diagnostics-to-Launch-Coronavirus-Disease-2019-COVID-19-Test
>>
>>
>> https://www.labcorp.com/information-labcorp-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
>>
>>
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>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <m...@mailmt.com>
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>> Monday, March 9, 2020, 12:24:15 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> There has not really been any testing at all in the US. Total tests to
>> date in the US is fewer than 5000. By contrast South Korea is doing 10,000
>> per day. The test kits are only starting to be distributed in the US. They
>> might have substantial numbers of kits sometime next week.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 3/9/2020 9:12 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> 10
>>
>> There has been no confirmation outside the media conjecture that
>> asymptomatic people can spread it. Im curious, and too lazy to look, what
>> type of testing was done on them, was it a nasal swab, or a blood test. A
>> nasal swab just indicates exposure. Remember the DOG INFECTED WITH CORONA
>> VIRUS!!! headline a couple weeks ago? Yeah, it died down when it was
>> pointed out that the dog didnt test positive, the dog never had it, it was
>> just present in the swab as an environmental contaminate. If a swab of a
>> door handle shows it present, we dont say the door handle has it, because
>> it doesnt, its simply on the door handle
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that
>> tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and
>> those people are able to spread it, there are almost certainly a LOT of
>> people running around with it. That also means that the death rate is
>> probably way, way lower than we've been made to believe.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt even know they were sick,
>> of that remaining 750 probably 650 thought they had the flu or a cold. of
>> the remaining 100, most of them were elderly or otherwise infirm and
>> standard outcomes would apply. In the mean time, in that area probably
>> 10,000 people got the flu, and 100 of them died
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind outbreaks for the London
>> School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times about
>> how people should look at the coronavirus data. One signal Dr. Kucharski
>> looks for is when the first case in an area is a death: “That suggests you
>> had a lot of community transmission already,” he said. “Suppose the
>> fatality rate for cases is about 1 percent, which is plausible,” he
>> explained. “If you’ve got a death, then that person probably became ill
>> about three weeks ago. That means you probably had about 100 cases three
>> weeks ago, in reality.” “In that subsequent three weeks,” he added, “that
>> number could well have doubled, then doubled, then doubled again. So you’re
>> currently looking at 500 cases, maybe 1,000 cases.” *My corollary on the
>> above is that if we have that many cases in a community, then a lot of
>> people are running around with no clue that they have been infected.
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2020 6:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> We have moved from containment to community mitigation, where the goal is
>> to flatten the curve and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and wait
>> for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging has not quite caught up with
>> this reality, but if you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it out.
>>
>> Those of you going to WISPAmerica, stay safe. Wash your hands, and use
>> the hand sanitizer that I assume will be everywhere. Maybe take a
>> thermometer.
>>
>> And Steve, I’m shocked, shocked to hear that your town has Amtrak.
>> Didn’t you just get indoor plumbing last year?
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:40 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>> Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady from here in town was
>> in the car behind this lady and we "exposed"
>> So that equates to "its here in town now"
>> I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes having the baby cut from
>> her gut on the 18th which has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital. In the
>> mean time everybody and their brother is going to be comimg out to the
>> hospital because theyre certain they have the deaths. Theyre bringing every
>> germ known to man into one place. Hospitals are already infection centers,
>> dirty filthy cesspools of disease.
>> The baby technically only has to be there 24 hours, and im taking it
>> home. Wifes on her own at the death center. Herpes will be riding bareback
>> on cold viruses after inbreeding with mersa and riding through a puddle of
>> c. Diff.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:46 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>> Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying:
>>
>> 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with
>> something looking like nCov and which got tested. We don't currently know
>> how many people have it but didn't get tested and as such isn't counted as
>> an infected person. As we improve our testing ability, we'll find more
>> cases which aren't hospitalization (and possible subsequent death) cases,
>> pushing the rate lower.
>>
>> 2) Because we are testing more we'll also be able to tell that some of
>> the cases that we aren't attributing to nCov are actually nCov cases,
>> pushing the rate higher.
>>
>> Does that describe what you're saying?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 AM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>> More people being tested means two things:
>>
>> 1) the death rate goes way down
>> 2) the death rate goes way up, because we currently have folks dying of
>> pneumonia that wasn’t the flu.
>>
>> > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm going to Disney World this coming Friday. Went into town this
>> > weekend, stopped by 5-6 stores including lunch out. I have an
>> > employee going on a cruise next week.
>> >
>> > We have had two confirmed cases in our county.
>> >
>> > It is what it is, I'm not going to hide under a rock. Let's keep this
>> > in perspective. Currently the total infection rate per 1 million in
>> > the US is 1.6. S. Korea has the highest infection rate at 144 per
>> > million. That infection rate not death rate. Death rate is even
>> > lower.
>> >
>> > If you are under 50 years old, your death chances are under 0.5%.
>> >
>> > It is going to go up. Now that both Quest Labs and Labcorp are both
>> > doing testing, more people will get tested. More people getting
>> > tested, means more people being counted as a case.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>> <m...@mailmt.com>
>> >
>> > Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> > www.Myakka.com
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>> > Sunday, March 8, 2020, 9:51:23 PM, you wrote:
>> >
>> > MH> You’re really making light of this serious situation aren’t you?
>> >
>> >>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
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>> >>> welp, guys, was nice knowing you. An amtrak train had apparently
>> stopped in
>> >>> my town with an infected passenger. Thats the end of that. Already
>> took the
>> >>> family out to the garden and put them down, now I just wait for sweet
>> death.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Might want to switch to peeing on them to avoid spreading anything.
>> >>>> According to the news stories droplets of saliva and rubbing your
>> eyes are
>> >>>> the ways it gets spread. Urine might give you even more dominance
>> than
>> >>>> spit anyway.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *From:* A
>> >
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