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There has been no confirmation outside the media conjecture that
asymptomatic people can spread it. Im curious, and too lazy to look, what
type of testing was done on them, was it a nasal swab, or a blood test. A
nasal swab just indicates exposure. Remember the DOG INFECTED WITH CORONA
VIRUS!!! headline a couple weeks ago? Yeah, it died down when it was
pointed out that the dog didnt test positive, the dog never had it, it was
just present in the swab as an environmental contaminate. If a swab of a
door handle shows it present, we dont say the door handle has it, because
it doesnt, its simply on the door handle
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that
> tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and
> those people are able to spread it, there are almost certainly a LOT of
> people running around with it. That also means that the death rate is
> probably way, way lower than we've been made to believe.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt even know they were sick,
>> of that remaining 750 probably 650 thought they had the flu or a cold. of
>> the remaining 100, most of them were elderly or otherwise infirm and
>> standard outcomes would apply. In the mean time, in that area probably
>> 10,000 people got the flu, and 100 of them died
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning:
>>>
>>> *Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind outbreaks for the London
>>> School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times about
>>> how people should look at the coronavirus data.*
>>> *One signal Dr. Kucharski looks for is when the first case in an area is
>>> a death: “That suggests you had a lot of community transmission already,”
>>> he said.*
>>> *“Suppose the fatality rate for cases is about 1 percent, which is
>>> plausible,” he explained. “If you’ve got a death, then that person probably
>>> became ill about three weeks ago. That means you probably had about 100
>>> cases three weeks ago, in reality.”*
>>> *“In that subsequent three weeks,” he added, “that number could well
>>> have doubled, then doubled, then doubled again. So you’re currently looking
>>> at 500 cases, maybe 1,000 cases.”*
>>>
>>> My corollary on the above is that if we have that many cases in a
>>> community, then a lot of people are running around with no clue that they
>>> have been infected.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2020 6:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> We have moved from containment to community mitigation, where the goal
>>> is to flatten the curve and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and
>>> wait for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging has not quite caught up
>>> with this reality, but if you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it
>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Those of you going to WISPAmerica, stay safe. Wash your hands, and use
>>> the hand sanitizer that I assume will be everywhere. Maybe take a
>>> thermometer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And Steve, I’m shocked, shocked to hear that your town has Amtrak.
>>> Didn’t you just get indoor plumbing last year?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:40 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady from here in town was
>>> in the car behind this lady and we "exposed"
>>>
>>> So that equates to "its here in town now"
>>>
>>> I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes having the baby cut
>>> from her gut on the 18th which has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital. In
>>> the mean time everybody and their brother is going to be comimg out to the
>>> hospital because theyre certain they have the deaths. Theyre bringing every
>>> germ known to man into one place. Hospitals are already infection centers,
>>> dirty filthy cesspools of disease.
>>>
>>> The baby technically only has to be there 24 hours, and im taking it
>>> home. Wifes on her own at the death center. Herpes will be riding bareback
>>> on cold viruses after inbreeding with mersa and riding through a puddle of
>>> c. Diff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:46 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with
>>> something looking like nCov and which got tested. We don't currently know
>>> how many people have it but didn't get tested and as such isn't counted as
>>> an infected person. As we improve our testing ability, we'll find more
>>> cases which aren't hospitalization (and possible subsequent death) cases,
>>> pushing the rate lower.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) Because we are testing more we'll also be able to tell that some of
>>> the cases that we aren't attributing to nCov are actually nCov cases,
>>> pushing the rate higher.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does that describe what you're saying?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 AM Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> More people being tested means two things:
>>>
>>> 1) the death rate goes way down
>>> 2) the death rate goes way up, because we currently have folks dying of
>>> pneumonia that wasn’t the flu.
>>>
>>> > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
>>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'm going to Disney World this coming Friday. Went into town this
>>> > weekend, stopped by 5-6 stores including lunch out. I have an
>>> > employee going on a cruise next week.
>>> >
>>> > We have had two confirmed cases in our county.
>>> >
>>> > It is what it is, I'm not going to hide under a rock. Let's keep this
>>> > in perspective. Currently the total infection rate per 1 million in
>>> > the US is 1.6. S. Korea has the highest infection rate at 144 per
>>> > million. That infection rate not death rate. Death rate is even
>>> > lower.
>>> >
>>> > If you are under 50 years old, your death chances are under 0.5%.
>>> >
>>> > It is going to go up. Now that both Quest Labs and Labcorp are both
>>> > doing testing, more people will get tested. More people getting
>>> > tested, means more people being counted as a case.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>> >
>>> > Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>> > www.Myakka.com
>>> >
>>> > ------
>>> >
>>> > Sunday, March 8, 2020, 9:51:23 PM, you wrote:
>>> >
>>> > MH> You’re really making light of this serious situation aren’t you?
>>> >
>>> >>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --000000000000216fbc05a061e421
>>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> welp, guys, was nice knowing you. An amtrak train had apparently
>>> stopped in
>>> >>> my town with an infected passenger. Thats the end of that. Already
>>> took the
>>> >>> family out to the garden and put them down, now I just wait for
>>> sweet death.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Might want to switch to peeing on them to avoid spreading anything.
>>> >>>> According to the news stories droplets of saliva and rubbing your
>>> eyes are
>>> >>>> the ways it gets spread. Urine might give you even more dominance
>>> than
>>> >>>> spit anyway.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> *From:* A
>>> >
>>> >
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