I just hope since everybody and their brother is producing them that they
all create the same test so the results are standardized. 5 9s vs 4 9s to
us is usually good enough for the girls we go with, but tracking a
"pandemic" needs 100 percent alignment on the data set
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 11:25 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There has not really been any testing at all in the US. Total tests to
> date in the US is fewer than 5000. By contrast South Korea is doing 10,000
> per day. The test kits are only starting to be distributed in the US. They
> might have substantial numbers of kits sometime next week.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/9/2020 9:12 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> 10
>
> There has been no confirmation outside the media conjecture that
> asymptomatic people can spread it. Im curious, and too lazy to look, what
> type of testing was done on them, was it a nasal swab, or a blood test. A
> nasal swab just indicates exposure. Remember the DOG INFECTED WITH CORONA
> VIRUS!!! headline a couple weeks ago? Yeah, it died down when it was
> pointed out that the dog didnt test positive, the dog never had it, it was
> just present in the swab as an environmental contaminate. If a swab of a
> door handle shows it present, we dont say the door handle has it, because
> it doesnt, its simply on the door handle
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that
>> tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and
>> those people are able to spread it, there are almost certainly a LOT of
>> people running around with it. That also means that the death rate is
>> probably way, way lower than we've been made to believe.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Id agree there, of the 1000 probably 250 didnt even know they were sick,
>>> of that remaining 750 probably 650 thought they had the flu or a cold. of
>>> the remaining 100, most of them were elderly or otherwise infirm and
>>> standard outcomes would apply. In the mean time, in that area probably
>>> 10,000 people got the flu, and 100 of them died
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning:
>>>>
>>>> *Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind outbreaks for the London
>>>> School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times about
>>>> how people should look at the coronavirus data.*
>>>> *One signal Dr. Kucharski looks for is when the first case in an area
>>>> is a death: “That suggests you had a lot of community transmission
>>>> already,” he said.*
>>>> *“Suppose the fatality rate for cases is about 1 percent, which is
>>>> plausible,” he explained. “If you’ve got a death, then that person probably
>>>> became ill about three weeks ago. That means you probably had about 100
>>>> cases three weeks ago, in reality.”*
>>>> *“In that subsequent three weeks,” he added, “that number could well
>>>> have doubled, then doubled, then doubled again. So you’re currently looking
>>>> at 500 cases, maybe 1,000 cases.”*
>>>>
>>>> My corollary on the above is that if we have that many cases in a
>>>> community, then a lot of people are running around with no clue that they
>>>> have been infected.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/9/2020 6:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have moved from containment to community mitigation, where the goal
>>>> is to flatten the curve and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and
>>>> wait for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging has not quite caught up
>>>> with this reality, but if you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those of you going to WISPAmerica, stay safe. Wash your hands, and use
>>>> the hand sanitizer that I assume will be everywhere. Maybe take a
>>>> thermometer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And Steve, I’m shocked, shocked to hear that your town has Amtrak.
>>>> Didn’t you just get indoor plumbing last year?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:40 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady from here in town
>>>> was in the car behind this lady and we "exposed"
>>>>
>>>> So that equates to "its here in town now"
>>>>
>>>> I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes having the baby cut
>>>> from her gut on the 18th which has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital. In
>>>> the mean time everybody and their brother is going to be comimg out to the
>>>> hospital because theyre certain they have the deaths. Theyre bringing every
>>>> germ known to man into one place. Hospitals are already infection centers,
>>>> dirty filthy cesspools of disease.
>>>>
>>>> The baby technically only has to be there 24 hours, and im taking it
>>>> home. Wifes on her own at the death center. Herpes will be riding bareback
>>>> on cold viruses after inbreeding with mersa and riding through a puddle of
>>>> c. Diff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:46 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with
>>>> something looking like nCov and which got tested. We don't currently know
>>>> how many people have it but didn't get tested and as such isn't counted as
>>>> an infected person. As we improve our testing ability, we'll find more
>>>> cases which aren't hospitalization (and possible subsequent death) cases,
>>>> pushing the rate lower.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Because we are testing more we'll also be able to tell that some of
>>>> the cases that we aren't attributing to nCov are actually nCov cases,
>>>> pushing the rate higher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does that describe what you're saying?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 AM Matt Hoppes <
>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> More people being tested means two things:
>>>>
>>>> 1) the death rate goes way down
>>>> 2) the death rate goes way up, because we currently have folks dying of
>>>> pneumonia that wasn’t the flu.
>>>>
>>>> > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
>>>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm going to Disney World this coming Friday. Went into town this
>>>> > weekend, stopped by 5-6 stores including lunch out. I have an
>>>> > employee going on a cruise next week.
>>>> >
>>>> > We have had two confirmed cases in our county.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is what it is, I'm not going to hide under a rock. Let's keep this
>>>> > in perspective. Currently the total infection rate per 1 million in
>>>> > the US is 1.6. S. Korea has the highest infection rate at 144 per
>>>> > million. That infection rate not death rate. Death rate is even
>>>> > lower.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you are under 50 years old, your death chances are under 0.5%.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is going to go up. Now that both Quest Labs and Labcorp are both
>>>> > doing testing, more people will get tested. More people getting
>>>> > tested, means more people being counted as a case.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>> >
>>>> > Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>> > www.Myakka.com
>>>> >
>>>> > ------
>>>> >
>>>> > Sunday, March 8, 2020, 9:51:23 PM, you wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > MH> You’re really making light of this serious situation aren’t you?
>>>> >
>>>> >>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
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>>>> >>> welp, guys, was nice knowing you. An amtrak train had apparently
>>>> stopped in
>>>> >>> my town with an infected passenger. Thats the end of that. Already
>>>> took the
>>>> >>> family out to the garden and put them down, now I just wait for
>>>> sweet death.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Might want to switch to peeing on them to avoid spreading anything.
>>>> >>>> According to the news stories droplets of saliva and rubbing your
>>>> eyes are
>>>> >>>> the ways it gets spread. Urine might give you even more dominance
>>>> than
>>>> >>>> spit anyway.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> *From:* A
>>>> >
>>>> >
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