Perhaps they just immediately bury anybody that's infected...
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> I find it hard to believe that North Korea is missing out on all the fun.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 9:47 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>
> It's interesting that the one country that is testing lots of people
> (South Korea) has had a death rate well under 1%.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Corollary: we need to test lots of people, and get the infected ones to
>> stay away from nursing homes, cruise ships and unprotected healthcare
>> workers.
>>
>>
>>
>> And given that kids seem to either not get it, or not get serious
>> symptoms, I wonder if they are silently transmitting the virus.
>>
>>
>>
>> It does seem so far like transmission within families is almost 100%.
>> Not sure how that would change if people were tested and then practiced
>> recommended methods to avoid transmitting the virus. Or if it’s too late
>> by the time they know, at least for transmission within families in the
>> same house.
>>
>>
>>
>> The biggest puzzle for me is why the Chinese seem to be having such great
>> success now controlling the new case rate. It can’t JUST be the lockdown.
>> It’s almost like they have a lot of people that have recovered without
>> knowing they had it and are now immune, and that is blocking the virus from
>> spreading so fast through a population that now has a certain percent are
>> immune. I believe I saw something about it stops when either 50% of the
>> population has recovered and is immune, or a vaccine becomes available. I
>> don’t know if the 50% number was just an example or a real number, but I
>> think the idea was that an epidemic or pandemic needs a certain percentage
>> of the population to be susceptible to sustain its spread. The other way
>> it stops is if it is so deadly that it kills its host before it can
>> spread. I guess SARS was kind of that way. Plus with SARS you weren’t
>> very contagious before you showed symptoms. Fewer Typhoid Marys walking
>> around. Or taking Amtrak.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:01 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting tidbit from the NYT this morning:
>>
>> *Adam Kucharski, who studies the math behind outbreaks for the London
>> School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, recently talked to The Times about
>> how people should look at the coronavirus data.*
>> *One signal Dr. Kucharski looks for is when the first case in an area is
>> a death: “That suggests you had a lot of community transmission already,”
>> he said.*
>> *“Suppose the fatality rate for cases is about 1 percent, which is
>> plausible,” he explained. “If you’ve got a death, then that person probably
>> became ill about three weeks ago. That means you probably had about 100
>> cases three weeks ago, in reality.”*
>> *“In that subsequent three weeks,” he added, “that number could well have
>> doubled, then doubled, then doubled again. So you’re currently looking at
>> 500 cases, maybe 1,000 cases.”*
>>
>> My corollary on the above is that if we have that many cases in a
>> community, then a lot of people are running around with no clue that they
>> have been infected.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2020 6:16 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> We have moved from containment to community mitigation, where the goal is
>> to flatten the curve and avoid overloading the healthcare system, and wait
>> for a vaccine (no, not imminent). Messaging has not quite caught up with
>> this reality, but if you listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci you can figure it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Those of you going to WISPAmerica, stay safe. Wash your hands, and use
>> the hand sanitizer that I assume will be everywhere. Maybe take a
>> thermometer.
>>
>>
>>
>> And Steve, I’m shocked, shocked to hear that your town has Amtrak.
>> Didn’t you just get indoor plumbing last year?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 7:40 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, my worst nightmare has hit. Turns out a lady from here in town was
>> in the car behind this lady and we "exposed"
>>
>> So that equates to "its here in town now"
>>
>> I already talked to the OB about this. The wifes having the baby cut from
>> her gut on the 18th which has a 3 day recovery in thos hospital. In the
>> mean time everybody and their brother is going to be comimg out to the
>> hospital because theyre certain they have the deaths. Theyre bringing every
>> germ known to man into one place. Hospitals are already infection centers,
>> dirty filthy cesspools of disease.
>>
>> The baby technically only has to be there 24 hours, and im taking it
>> home. Wifes on her own at the death center. Herpes will be riding bareback
>> on cold viruses after inbreeding with mersa and riding through a puddle of
>> c. Diff.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 6:46 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>> Let me see If I can agree with what I think you're saying:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Currently we're pre-selecting for people who are in a hospital with
>> something looking like nCov and which got tested. We don't currently know
>> how many people have it but didn't get tested and as such isn't counted as
>> an infected person. As we improve our testing ability, we'll find more
>> cases which aren't hospitalization (and possible subsequent death) cases,
>> pushing the rate lower.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Because we are testing more we'll also be able to tell that some of
>> the cases that we aren't attributing to nCov are actually nCov cases,
>> pushing the rate higher.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does that describe what you're saying?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:09 AM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>> More people being tested means two things:
>>
>> 1) the death rate goes way down
>> 2) the death rate goes way up, because we currently have folks dying of
>> pneumonia that wasn’t the flu.
>>
>> > On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm going to Disney World this coming Friday. Went into town this
>> > weekend, stopped by 5-6 stores including lunch out. I have an
>> > employee going on a cruise next week.
>> >
>> > We have had two confirmed cases in our county.
>> >
>> > It is what it is, I'm not going to hide under a rock. Let's keep this
>> > in perspective. Currently the total infection rate per 1 million in
>> > the US is 1.6. S. Korea has the highest infection rate at 144 per
>> > million. That infection rate not death rate. Death rate is even
>> > lower.
>> >
>> > If you are under 50 years old, your death chances are under 0.5%.
>> >
>> > It is going to go up. Now that both Quest Labs and Labcorp are both
>> > doing testing, more people will get tested. More people getting
>> > tested, means more people being counted as a case.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>> >
>> > Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> > www.Myakka.com
>> >
>> > ------
>> >
>> > Sunday, March 8, 2020, 9:51:23 PM, you wrote:
>> >
>> > MH> You’re really making light of this serious situation aren’t you?
>> >
>> >>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
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>> >>> welp, guys, was nice knowing you. An amtrak train had apparently
>> stopped in
>> >>> my town with an infected passenger. Thats the end of that. Already
>> took the
>> >>> family out to the garden and put them down, now I just wait for sweet
>> death.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Might want to switch to peeing on them to avoid spreading anything.
>> >>>> According to the news stories droplets of saliva and rubbing your
>> eyes are
>> >>>> the ways it gets spread. Urine might give you even more dominance
>> than
>> >>>> spit anyway.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *From:* A
>> >
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