Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $199 installation

2025 1:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $199 installation DSI is a long-time satellite distributor, so that makes sense. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $199 installation

DSI is a long-time satellite distributor, so that makes sense. -- Mike Hammett - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2025 1:01:09 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Starlink $199 installation I just saw on the Starlink website t

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink $199 installation

Starlink professional installation is a booming market. bottom feeders racing to the bottom in price. was an easy 4-500 bucks On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 1:02 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I just saw on the Starlink website they offer $199 installation. How long > have they done this? The DIY install use

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink says gigabit speeds coming

who’ve gotten Starlink. >> >> >> >> It does sound like they’re talking about a new satellite design, and he >> didn’t say anything about timeframe. Or whether you would also need a new >> Starlink terminal. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *O

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink says gigabit speeds coming

Sent:* Tuesday, October 15, 2024 9:40 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink says gigabit speeds coming > > > > "Gigabit" measured at the satellite unloaded before launched from Earth. > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:0

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink says gigabit speeds coming

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink says gigabit speeds coming "Gigabit" measured at the satellite unloaded before launched from Earth. On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:05 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote: https://x.com/michaelnicollsx/status/1845609488570810874 -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink says gigabit speeds coming

"Gigabit" measured at the satellite unloaded before launched from Earth. On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:05 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > https://x.com/michaelnicollsx/status/1845609488570810874 > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Darren Shea" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Thursday, October 10, 2024 4:58:00

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

tober 10, 2024 4:58:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink Free may be an exaggeration… “This is being provided free of charge by SpaceX and TMobile to help those in need,” Musk said. However, the billionaire failed to mention that victims of the disasters would need to purchase a Starlink st

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Free may be an exaggeration. "This is being provided free of charge by SpaceX and TMobile to help those in need," Musk said. However, the billionaire failed to mention that victims of the disa

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Neither party seems to be able to produce decent candidates any more. I was a Romney guy... From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 9:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink I agree. One of the smartest politicians I have seen in years. Sadly, it

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

; *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:49 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > > Pete butgaga may say "give me a call" but guarantee he isnt answering the > calls. and the use of "legitimate" is purposefully decep

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Sounds like disinformation to me (as opposed to misinformation). and I think Elon is one of the biggest a-holes on the planet. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 11:13 AM wrote: > FEMA is confiscating starlinks Elon is sending to the flood area. He is > providing free ser

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

/1842350122899739050 *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:49 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink Pete butgaga may say "give me a call" but guarantee he isnt answering the calls. and the use of "legitimate" is purpos

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

ech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com> www.microtrench.pro <http://www.microtrench.pro> www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> *From:* tpa...@ecpi.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subj

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Following the fairness doctrine, we should spend equal time making fun of Zuckerberg. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/is-mark-zuckerberg-a-human/ From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 3:43 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

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www.mccowntech.com > > www.microtrench.pro > > www.terabitnetworks.com > > *From:* tpa...@ecpi.com > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > > And tha

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

gt; https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842350122899739050 > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:49 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > > Pete butgaga may say &quo

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

This post on X would indicate he did in fact answer the call. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842350122899739050 From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink Pete butgaga may say "give

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

cCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com *From:* tpa...@ecpi.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group&#

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

you’re encountering a > problem give me a call." > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:28 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > > > https://cbsaus

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

> Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 Office > 435-830-4306 Cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench.pro > www.terabitnetworks.com > > *From:* tpa...@ecpi.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Su

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

blem give me a call." From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/spacex-engineer-claims-fema-actively -blocking-shipments-and-goods-musk-hur

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Sounds  like a steaming pile of Trump delusional were made up lies to me.  But thanks Chuck for letting me know where you fall. Or was this a joke? David Young Warwick Broadband From: AF on behalf of tpa...@ecpi.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 2:18:23 PMTo: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Su

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com From: tpa...@ecpi.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

6 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro www.terabitnetworks.com From: tpa...@ecpi.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink And that information came from a reliable source? Tushar From: AF On Behalf Of ch...

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

And that information came from a reliable source? Tushar From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Starlink FEMA is confiscating starlinks Elon is sending to the flood area. He is providing free service to anyone

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

m.  I am still hopeful that there are issues...   From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

s... *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe they just need to make a thin layer of water to get it t

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

would not underestimate them.  I am still hopeful that there are issues... *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe they just need to

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

rogers rocket on its tail feathers. I would not underestimate > them. I am still hopeful that there are issues... > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > > If the top

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

pply do these things have? > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:11 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > > I wonder if it's a matter of how long of a melt process you're willing to > accept. >

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

t is made by some very smart people.  People smart enough to land a buck rogers rocket on its tail feathers.  I would not underestimate them.  I am still hopeful that there are issues... *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlin

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are issues...   From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe they just need to make a thin layer of water to get it to slide off? bp On 3/4/2021 5:31 AM, Steven Kenney

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

supply do these things have? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:11 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already I wonder if it's a matter of how long of a melt process you're willing to accept. Like maybe 100W keeps the dish clean, but mayb

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

irect.net From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "af" , "Steve Jones" Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:03:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already He's try

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

t is gonna take some power.  Heavy snow or ice storms.  I tried to build heated radomes for a while.  Takes like 100 watts to do it right or more. *From:* Steven Kenney *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:31 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already Found this interesting tidb

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

do it right or > more. > > *From:* Steven Kenney > *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:31 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > Found this interesting tidbit I didnt know about > > *Snow Melt Mode* > Deployed basic Snow Melt Mode, du

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

That is gonna take some power. Heavy snow or ice storms. I tried to build heated radomes for a while. Takes like 100 watts to do it right or more. From: Steven Kenney Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:31 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already Found this interesting

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

e St. N | Leamington ON E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 W: www.wavedirect.net From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "af" , "Steve Jones" Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:03:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already He's trying to land a Methane

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

ug.com>> wrote: Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already From your mouth to God'

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Ha... > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 3:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Ha... On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 3:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already &

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already >From your mouth to God's ears Chuck on Covid-19... unfortunately it's going to

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Calix GPON... ;-) From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already What technology do you utilize to deliver a 100+ mbps to residential subs? Or is that not what they will offer when beta is done? On

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

too >> much. I am always an optimist. BTW, Covid will be done in a month... >> >> *From:* Colin Stanners >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

rom:* Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a > thousand, customers on each bird to prepare f

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

be done in a month... >> >> *From:* Colin Stanners >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already >> >> Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

on the better served areas too > much. I am always an optimist. BTW, Covid will be done in a month... > > *From:* Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > S

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a > thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's actually busy. > (based on the "20Gbps" capacity per sat) &

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's actually busy. (based on the "20Gbps" capacity per sat) Considering the

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Yup... I'm hearing/seeing the same thing. On 3/3/21 11:46 AM, Dev wrote: Already hearing from folks who have the service that they’re seeing dips below 15Mbps, and this at light loads with few customers, we’ll see how this scales. Or doesn’t. Are others in different geographies seeing similar?

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Until they get the constellation fleshed out; probably after 2021 (maybe mid 2022?), I would not put too much credence in any numbers, big or small. bp On 3/3/2021 8:46 AM, Dev wrote: Already hearing from folks who have the service that they’re seeing dips below 15Mbps, and this at light lo

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few hundred, or a thousand, customers on each bird to prepare for when it's actually busy. (based on the "20Gbps" capacity per sat) Considering the amount of effort and design that goes into such a massive and complex system, people should be th

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink: first come, first served

kef> From: AF on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 8:43:07 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink: first come, first served Available today! >Depending on location, some orders may take 6 months or more t

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink: first come, first served

Available today! >Depending on location, some orders may take 6 months or more to fulfill Very Apple-like. Stretching the meanings of words. Kind of like Unlimited Verizon/Tmo/ATT. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu,

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink: first come, first served

Definately not everywhere. Starlink is targeting coverage in your area in mid to late 2021. You will receive a notification once your Starlink is ready to ship. On 2/18/21 9:25 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: The Starlink beta is now open to all on a first-come, first-served basis. Availability

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

ace > 300+ms. > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >  > Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... > just wondering... > > *From:* Matt Hoppes > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microw

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Chuck! Go for it! From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just wondering

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

tps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> > www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > *From: *AF on behalf of Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM > *To: *AnimalFarm Mic

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

hard it will be to jam starlink... just > wondering... > > From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood > > Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordere

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just wondering... From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordered

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

alf of Josh Luthman > > Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood > > People are stupid and willing to suck up the Apple/Elon kool aid? I'm > shocked. > > People think they need

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

AYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Josh Luthman Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood People are stupid and

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

e in a week > or two. As mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a > month. Will be interesting. > > Regards, > > David Coudron > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

knowledge in a week or two.   As mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a month.   Will be interesting. Regards, David Coudron *From:*AF*On Behalf Of*Darin Steffl *Sent:*Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - Fi

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

y $600 to start and $99 a month. >> Will be interesting. >> >> Regards, >> >> David Coudron >> >> From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On >> Behalf Of Darin Steffl >> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM >> To: Anim

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

to start and $99 a month.   Will be interesting. Regards, David Coudron *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Darin Steffl *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clea

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

. As mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a month. Will be interesting. Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood If he's

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clear sky like the Starlink app shows with their VR overlay, he will likely have a poor experience with it and maybe come back. We always tell people canceling what their average usage is because we use Preseem and most people rarely average more than 10 M

Re: [AFMUG] starlink

Yes, like a nice thunderstorm will take out DBS TV. Launches cost nothing. It is all R&D experimental cost for SpaceX. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 3:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] starlink Are you thinking about rain fade? I don't know what

Re: [AFMUG] starlink

That doesn't much matter, unless you're intending to also be that high On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 4:14 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Rain doesn't go that high. > > > bp > > > On 2/4/2021 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I wonder if a nice wet thunderstorm will take down starlink? > > -- > AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] starlink

Are you thinking about rain fade? I don't know what the rain density is as you go up in the atmosphere, but I think it should become less and less as the altitude goes up. I'm sure someone has figured this out; especially other satellite companies. In the mean time,

Re: [AFMUG] starlink

Rain doesn't go that high. bp On 2/4/2021 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I wonder if a nice wet thunderstorm will take down starlink? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afm

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

f I have enough tachyons. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ken Hohhof >> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:25 PM >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms >> >> Can you make th

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

m Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > > Can you make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs? > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:43 PM > To: Ani

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

If I have enough tachyons. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:25 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms Can you make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs? ---

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

Can you make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:43 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms I have 13 mS to google

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

I have 13 mS to google. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:32 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms I don't know about *anybody* who has 40 ms in-home latency. Normal in-home laten

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

Just a heads up, that Youtube video is pure third party speculation and part of that speculation is already known to be false. Jared       From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms htt

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05abdGSOxY On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:34 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > I'd like to see someone run smokeping from a local server out to every hop > along the path out to the public Internet. Set it up to 1 ping every second > so that you get that depth of detail. > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

I'd like to see someone run smokeping from a local server out to every hop along the path out to the public Internet. Set it up to 1 ping every second so that you get that depth of detail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

Starlink should under *any* circumstances get *any* subsidies. Other than that, I wish them well. From a purely technological standpoint I find Starlink extremely cool. Jared > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" > Subject: Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

The Starlink app measures latency to what I believe is either the first hop or the closest ground station.   Jared     From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms Also, speedtests are in

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

100 ms. Jared   From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms Never underestimate how bad an average consumer can mess up speedtest results.   The ONLY valid way is to hardwire directly to

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

If I worked at Hughesnet right now I would be looking to jump ship. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:01 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms We're obsessin

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at lower is better. Oh no, my ping is only 15, it used to be 500 with Hughesnet. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:29 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms 1/3/15 ms. How is

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, November 3, 2020 9:32 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now? Jared From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to

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;> >> >> Jared >> >> >> > From: "Bill Prince" >> > To: af@af.afmug.com >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms >> > >> > We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In

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; > > Jared > > > > From: "Bill Prince" > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > > > > We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is > > blow

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Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now? Jared > From: "Bill Prince" > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > > We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean ti

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1/3/15 ms. How is that relevant? Jared > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2020 at 11:20 AM > From: "Ken Hohhof" > To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > > And what is the

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We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is blowing smoke. bp On 11/3/2020 7:57 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms I call that BS. It

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And what is the min/avg/max latency over typical home WiFi from router to device? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:06 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms Yes, I've

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From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms   > What I'm saying is if you can average 20ms and 1 out of 100 pings spikes > higher, it will not make a huge difference in perform

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t15...@gmail.com]> To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > > I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end > point. I think it will make a massive difference.   You can call BS all day long

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The latency figures reported so far have been measured during coverage periods. As such adding satellites won't help. You'd actually have to improve the tracking and routing to make a difference.     Jared From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

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arship as well where I believe they're targeting double that number per launch. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:52 AM wrote: > From: "Darin Steffl" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > &g

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From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms > > I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end > point. I think it will make a massive difference. You can call BS all day long til you a

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