The situation that really got to me was the well publicized Fire Captain that prevented the Helicopter pilot from going back and picking up the Wife and the dog.   That was bad.   The other firefighters from out-of-state couldn't believe it either.   But listening to the town administrator covering the firefighters mistake was downright criminal.   Someone needed to grab the whole staff and do an attitude correction to say it was a mistake made in the moment and that the fire chief was under a lot of pressure and made a bad call.  All over.   The town admin made it so obvious this was a cover-your-ass situation that I am sure that someone is going to sue now.

There have been a _LOT_ of near misses in the last week with the aviation traffic, but, no actual mid-air's.   There is a lot of big dick swinging going on by FEMA staff that are used to being the only game in town.  FEMA is used to completely running the show.   But they are _horrible_ at quick response.   & a week is way too slow.   FEMA is used to dealing with 1 or two major disasters a year.   They are used to a very localized, urban response.   They don't understand how to play well with others except the military.   This should be something that is changed. But we all know that change in the gov't ( no matter red or blue ) is glacial.   I think Pete B could actually understand and fix a bunch of this _if_they_let_him/her..   Musk is a wrecking ball with a kitchen sink for a logo.   He's out of control, now planning on launching Starship with or without FAA approval. He's dipping into stuff more than the ganja...

On 10/8/24 11:46 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
i think this stems from a post elon musk shared on twitter from one of his folks in the field, but there wasnt clarity if it was an actual sstarlink engineer or some guy. I do think FEMA is inept and useless, has been for a couple decades, they do more harm than good at this point, but most of the stories going around are pretty false or inflated. of course random pilot flights get shut down when operation control gets centralized, and yes, unauthorized airspace entries should be jailable. Unauthorized transportation should be stopped to centralized the management, The starlinks getting seized, if they are, arent getting seized because theyre starlinks,m theyre unauthorized travel in a travel restricted zone. Its like saying that someone killed every person in a building, when they committed suicide in an abandoned building, sure its technically true, but delivered in a manner meant to seem like more that it is.

Youd think pedophile if somebody says john had relations with a fourteen year old, especially if you leave out the part he was also 14.

If fema delivered a shipment of food, and one can of tuna was spoiled, the statement would be FEMA is distributing rotten food, its 100 percent true, but is it accurate?

I firmly believe support is slow rolled here for political gain in a predominately red area. I firmly believe that FEMA should only be addressing natural disaster or extreme damage disasters, not politician made humanitarian crisis cause by poor immigant placement practices inundating areas where its politically expedient, thats my opinion, I dont have to provide any proof, but I also dont expect that to be a convincing argument in my opinions favor.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 1:28 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

    
https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/spacex-engineer-claims-fema-actively-blocking-shipments-and-goods-musk-hurricane-helene-extreme-weather-storm-wind-rain-flooding-death-toll-rescue-recovery-north-carolina-joe-biden-kamala-harris-donald-trump
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    *From:* tpa...@ecpi.com
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 12:17 PM
    *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

    And that information came from a reliable source?

    Tushar

    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2024 1:09 PM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    *Subject:* [AFMUG] Starlink

    FEMA is confiscating starlinks Elon is sending to the flood area. 
    He is providing free service to anyone that needs it.

    They are also interfering with shipments of starlinks even getting
    to the areas.

    Hmmm wonder if politics is involved....

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