If I worked at Hughesnet right now I would be looking to jump ship.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:01 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
We're obsessing over the wide area latency even though it goes to space and
back, but the in-home latency is not much less and nobody every seems to
worry about it.
Other than the occasional diehard gamer, nobody "hardwires" their devices
anymore, it's all WiFi.
Another way of saying the Starlink numbers don't sound too bad. Hoping the
FCC will disqualify them based on latency sounds like a long shot. Not like
Hughesnet where the latency actually does suck.
Also most customers never look at latency numbers, and if they do, they
probably don't understand that lower is better. Oh no, my ping is only 15,
it used to be 500 with Hughesnet.
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:29 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
1/3/15 ms. How is that relevant?
Jared
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2020 at 11:20 AM
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
And what is the min/avg/max latency over typical home WiFi from router to
device?
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:06 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Yes, I've seen that email. You'll note that they very carefully avoid
mentioning that the latency targets are best case minimum latencies, not
average latency or even latency upper and lower limits.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Here's the email Starlink sent out a week ago, attached. 16 to 19ms
latency target in summer of 2021
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:57 AM
<fiber...@mail.com[mailto:fiber...@mail.com]> wrote:From: "Bill
Prince" <part15...@gmail.com[mailto:part15...@gmail.com]>
To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest
> end point. I think it will make a massive difference.
You can call BS all day long til you are blue in the face, it won't
change facts.
The minimum end user latency is dominated by the RF space segment which
is currently averaging 40 ms. There are promises about lowering this, but
nobody has ever claimed any numbers lower than 20 ms.
It means jack all to the end user if Starlink uses a space laser to do
one or two hops when they have to pay a 20-40 ms penalty to go up and down.
Jared
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