The Starlink app measures latency to what I believe is either the first hop or 
the closest ground station.
 

Jared
 
 


From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms

Also, speedtests are introducing additional latency beyond the first hop. There 
is some level of latency between Starlink's ground stations and the public 
speedtest server. It could be 1ms or could be 80ms if they're testing to the 
east coast but their gateway is near the west coast.
 
The only sure way to know real latency is if you can ping the starlink gateway 
you're traffic goes to so you eliminate internet latency and only measure the 
satellite latency. 

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 10:50 AM Darin Steffl 
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com[mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com]> wrote:
Never underestimate how bad an average consumer can mess up speedtest results.
 
The ONLY valid way is to hardwire directly to the modem or router and make sure 
there are no other devices connected, and no background traffic. Then make sure 
you use the Speedtest.net app on a PC or Mac instead of the web browser.
 
Many of the tests we're seeing done are on WiFi which adds 1-10ms latency to 
the speedtest result depending on their distance to the router and 
interference. 

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 10:33 AM <fiber...@mail.com[mailto:fiber...@mail.com]> 
wrote:Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now?


Jared


> From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com[mailto:part15...@gmail.com]>
> To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is
> blowing smoke.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 11/3/2020 7:57 AM, fiber...@mail.com[mailto:fiber...@mail.com] wrote:
> > From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com[mailto:part15...@gmail.com]>
> > To: af@af.afmug.com[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> >> I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end
> >> point. I think it will make a massive difference.
> >    You can call BS all day long til you are blue in the face, it won't 
> >change facts.
> >
> >    The minimum end user latency is dominated by the RF space segment which 
> >is currently averaging 40 ms. There are promises about lowering this, but 
> >nobody has ever claimed any numbers lower than 20 ms.
> >
> >    It means jack all to the end user if Starlink uses a space laser to do 
> >one or two hops when they have to pay a 20-40 ms penalty to go up and down.
> >
> >
> > Jared
> >
>
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